DUST Search - Looks like we need to wait fanfest for some news

da GAND wrote:

DaReaperPW wrote:

Mad Syringe wrote:

I hope this means, that CCP realized, that forcing their Dust playerbase to the PC, may be counter productive, since they might as well go to Star Citizen instead...

That's at least my thought. I was about to upgrade my rig, to play SC, but since all those changes, the urge is not that big anymore, I may give Dust some more month and see what happens.

If I however move to SC, I doubt I'll come back anytime soon, since that game seems to have so much to play with it might take a while to grab it all...

1) No its not counter productive. TBH its prolly easier on them to manage an FPS from a pc then to have to deal with sony.

2) Please, if concole players are bitching about havign to switch to pc for dust do you HONESTLY think they will play that monstrosity of vaporware if it ever comes out?

3) SC at this point is nothing but hype. With CR at the helm it will take forever to be made or have to be gutted like a fish with 90% of it stripped out to even be offical. He should stop adding new crap, get the core game out and then add stuff. But hes not.

Anyway, SC is a non issue vs legion. You can easily play new eden and SC at the same time. So its really nothing. And i'm 90% sure SC will be a huge flop. But we will see.

On another note The new Dust roadmap shows nothing of legion but what looks like some good improvements to dust. So things are being done, just which direction is the issue. I wish ccp would just announce a greenlight already then some speculation can die.

Agreed it's probably easier for CCP to manage their own game without having to go through Sony. Star Citizen does have hype up for it but not as much as Titanfall and Destiny did , at least from what I've seen since I don't pay that much attention to it. But I wasn't paying much attention to Destiny and Titanfall but saw plenty of it.( mostly commercials). We've seen more of Star Citizen than we have of Legion though.

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CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2601	Posted - 2014.11.29 23:22:00 - [91] - Quote DaReaperPW wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: Kevall Longstride wrote: Like I said before, this will be Valkyrie's Fanfest and there is only a finite amount of time over the three days. Besides, it'll keep marketing busy with the new game too. So silver lining and all that. Valkyrie, that mediocre game isn't going to sell. Do CCP really think that the headset gimmick is going to make them rich? I have seen better fighter space sims on PC 5 years ago. Hell current big titles / in development titles already blow it out of the water. CCP jumps from project to project..... great. No WoD, no Legion. Just some clunky headset fighter sim...... IF you know that CCP knows that Legion is dead in the water, I would hope you would urge them to tell us the truth. I take it you never tried valk... it will make money, with no problems I would be sceptical about that. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Isa Lucifer Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 109	Posted - 2014.11.30 13:37:00 - [92] - Quote Thank you CPM for responding to this thread and to our little pessimist side. Everybody has one. Thank you. Amarr Victor
Evolution-7 The Rainbow Effect 676	Posted - 2014.11.30 14:17:00 - [93] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Bat Shard0 wrote: If concrete days is hard, something like "autumn of 2015" can be used Concrete anything is hard in the real world. When I see a sign that says construction will be on a road from May through October, I'm fully aware that road is going to be torn up for at least the next three years. A lot of people still act like the year before last's Fanfest was full of "promises". Like fighters, MTACs, and MAVs. But they weren't promises, they were a showcase of concepts. Some had dates on them, and that turned out to be a really really bad idea. An incompetent game company and real life engineering deadlines are two massively different things. Where the **** have you been educated.. seriously?! Replication to Uprising 1.4. Good times. PSN: AdmiralEvo
Evolution-7 The Rainbow Effect 676	Posted - 2014.11.30 14:18:00 - [94] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: Like I said before, this will be Valkyrie's Fanfest and there is only a finite amount of time over the three days. Besides, it'll keep marketing busy with the new game too. So silver lining and all that. Just valkyries fanfest? you think that is a reasonable answer to not have a fanfest for all three? Another **** head. Replication to Uprising 1.4. Good times. PSN: AdmiralEvo
Evolution-7 The Rainbow Effect 676	Posted - 2014.11.30 14:20:00 - [95] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: Kain Spero wrote: Except will these round tables be recorded and/or streamed? It would be a shame for Dust/Legion to be relegated to obscurity when it came to letting players hear in a more direct way from the Devs. Because streaming a Q&A round table worked out really well in May? Lol But seriously now folks, it's good that this news is now out. The last Fanfest was a train wreck of pandering to the PC master race made worse by the frankly insane bollocks of promises made for Dust by Rouge's predecessor 12 months before that. As a Fanfest vet I can tell you that the far more interesting stuff gets spoken about in the Round Tables and the pubs. Not streamed for sure but at least there's no hype about what's said there. It's likely going to be Eve: Valkyrie's time in the sun at Fanfest I'm guessing so there's only so much time that can put to one side for all off CCPs products. Dust and Legion will be very much on the back burner in March but they'll still be Rouge, Rattati and I'm sure some others will make the trip. They'll be answering questions and I'm sure Rouge will be hijacking Eve TV at some point too. Elite dangerous and star citizen have already ****** over legion and valkyrie thats why!!! Replication to Uprising 1.4. Good times. PSN: AdmiralEvo
Evolution-7 The Rainbow Effect 676	Posted - 2014.11.30 14:24:00 - [96] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: I would highlight two things here: 1. Last Fanfest was a train wreck. (Personal opinion.) The Fanfest before it was a bunch of promises that never happened. (Definite fact.) I, for one, am glad we are not going for round three on this trend. 2. Generally, if you want to get a bunch of big reveals for Fanfest, you have to hold some information back for a bit to get a big announcement together. I, also for one, would rather CCP just tell us what's up. Something the CPM has been actively encouraging. You have no ***** life, suck the anus of a company who doesn't pay you. Dust died when Laurino was removed and we have been fed lies every since day one of rouges enrollment. This announcement by Frame gives absolutely all of a reason to give a ** about legion/dust/eve and CCP in general. Lest we not forget, it is by your own actions (CCP) that this has come upon you, gaming trends change annual even monthly and sitting on a cash cow with little market growth is going to bite you in the ass for not changing. Replication to Uprising 1.4. Good times. PSN: AdmiralEvo
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 2088	Posted - 2014.11.30 14:56:00 - [97] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: DaReaperPW wrote: I'll agree to disagree, as i can't argue your supposed knowledge or 'credentials' so we will see. People who claim to have insider knowledge unofficially are pretty regularly proven wrong. Either this means they make a lot of stuff up, or they're not the people who actually are in the know at CCP. Pretty much this. I'm not going to disparage or dismiss the opinions that others have about this particular subject. People has differing points of view based on their own perceptions. These, they are perfectly entitled to. That being said when it comes the claiming of sources in CCP, I can honestly say that in my time so far in the CPM, no one making claim to x happening before y is in place or z will happen next week, has been even close. None of them knew or predicted 1.9, expressing even more surprise than most. With sources as sharp as theirs you'd expect them to have known something that big. Surely......? CPM 1 member CEO of DUST University Vist dustcpm.com
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 2514	Posted - 2014.11.30 16:25:00 - [98] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. You guys can't be serious? What incentive is there for a DUST player to buy fanfest tickets if you guys are just gonna be there to chat with. You couldn't of all been sitting around chatting at the office and some random green developer asks "What are we doing this year for fanfest?" And the offices response was... "Frack it" "We have to be there to answer some questions, but otherwise frack it" We never needed something that is gonna become a reality in the next year... And we don;t need you guys to promise that bullshit either. We would like to see what the Future of this IP is going to look like. We would like to see cutting edge concepts advancing this IP to come out... How about Boarding a titan? And fighting for ownership? How about CCP Rouge actually follow up with what he said last time... And offer a community wide event that extends from EVE to DUST like the fight for Caldari and Gallente Scenario. One thing is for sure... Doing nothing is not the answer... Build some hype around your product for your own damn sake... For your own future at CCP and the future of the company... Because all the noise in the industry is slowly drowning CCP out.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2254	Posted - 2014.11.30 17:56:00 - [99] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: With sources as sharp as theirs you'd expect them to have known something that big. Surely......? We have different understandings of what big things for DUST is (which is completely fine). Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2254	Posted - 2014.11.30 18:04:00 - [100] - Quote Bethhy wrote: One thing is for sure... Doing nothing is not the answer... Build some hype around your product for your own damn sake... For your own future at CCP and the future of the company... Because all the noise in the industry is slowly drowning CCP out. Fully agreed, and building hype doesn't necessarily mean making promises you can't keep. Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.

lateriss ObscuriLateris 15	Posted - 2014.11.30 18:38:00 - [101] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. Thank you for answering our question on this. It would be nice to know if Legion is vaporware or not. As an Eve pilot I can see how Dust514 is one of the most immersive FPS in terms of builds. I am glad CCP Games took a risk on the PS3 but ecstatic for a possible PC release. I have my fingers crossed for a PC release. It would be frakking amazing. No offense, but we can't wait in silence like we did with WoD. That would be really lame. Maybe next year in the spring? And I Agree with Mr. Soraya Xel-
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 17890	Posted - 2014.11.30 19:00:00 - [102] - Quote Not one insider source has said the one magic word that would indicate they're on the inside. NOT ONCE. and nearly 100% of their predictions are wrong; and while I was never an insider before the war council I would say I would been the only person to guess closely as I did and I was still wrong by a ways off. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
lateriss ObscuriLateris 15	Posted - 2014.11.30 19:44:00 - [103] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Not one insider source has said the one magic word that would indicate they're on the inside. NOT ONCE. and nearly 100% of their predictions are wrong; and while I was never an insider before the war council I would say I would been the only person to guess closely as I did and I was still wrong by a ways off. So it is not vaporware= AWESOME!!! O/
DaReaperPW Net 7 40	Posted - 2014.12.01 01:45:00 - [104] - Quote I'll also note. Because nothing is planned right now doesn't mean you won;t have a small blip of an announcement. My guess is that it will be a big fanfest for valk and eve. Dust and legion will be ont he back burner. But as i mentioned in another thread, ccp could change there minds or have Rouge get on stage during ccp presents and make a small announcement, or not. For eveyone whining about 'we need news even if it not true' you must all be new to ccp's world. There are people who still ***** about no planitary flight. Even though it was a simple concept and not something that was coming. I prefer them to not say anything, work on legion or IF legion is doa (which i doubt) work on dust and not shoot themslves further in the foot by saying something stupid. Fan fest last year was a huge misstep and pr nightmare. They dragged dust to the center and shot it in the head, when they really did not mean to. So better to stay quite till something is set in stone then get the fans riilled up.
ReGnYuM Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 3337	Posted - 2014.12.01 03:48:00 - [105] - Quote HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... CPM is hardly in the loop either LMFAO. The original CPM0 learned of Project Legion's (Dust's Demise) not from CCP, but from the CSM! That's right the Dust514 development team did not even have the Balls to tell their hand picked community reps about Legion
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 4875	Posted - 2014.12.01 04:13:00 - [106] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... CPM is hardly in the loop either LMFAO. The original CPM0 learned of Project Legion's (Dust's Demise) not from CCP, but from the CSM! That's right the Dust514 development team did not even have the Balls to tell their hand picked community reps about Legion This is like... a really long time ago. Basically ancient history. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 17900	Posted - 2014.12.01 06:30:00 - [107] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... CPM is hardly in the loop either LMFAO. The original CPM0 learned of Project Legion's (Dust's Demise) not from CCP, but from the CSM! That's right the Dust514 development team did not even have the Balls to tell their hand picked community reps about Legion This is like... a really long time ago. Basically ancient history. And that we know exactly how the CSM learned about it first and how CCP is basically 24 hours around the world. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 999	Posted - 2014.12.01 06:52:00 - [108] - Quote I am quite honestly surprised this thread still exists. That it hasnt been deleted to save face. I need to go fly a titan into a trap or something, the sterotypical cold shower did nothing. DUST will end exactly when CCP wants it to. Which seems to be Fanfest 2015
GLOBAL fils'de RAGE Consolidated Dust 60	Posted - 2014.12.01 11:16:00 - [109] - Quote It takes alot to build a company and make payroll-so with the last 6 years of a world wide economic funk, and Hellmar kept the doors open so give credit where credit is due. I looked at CCP's job openings for clues, and i noticed two positions to be filled this year, hard dates. So the hiring manager still had budget for those new hires, hiring dates sliding is a bad sign and this is not the case. They just moved Ratatti with his family, as well as others-thats not cheap. I'm not sure about Rogue, but if he's really french the "fresh bagettes" clause in his job offer wasn't cheap either. I looked at the Technology write off and it was probably Carbon development, so technically was Dust related, but not DUST514. Hellmar never struck me as a shooter, so it must be hard for him after being burned by this game, but his dream is still evidently alive. He is now looking at a number of paths to walk down, and is taking his time-he is going to follow the money, because it pays the bills. If you need to lift your spirits, or hope renewed, watch the EVE prophesy trailed-Gallente? I love DUST514, and I complain about latency every chance i get, because fixing it would make DUST 99.9% better. CCP fix your latency.
2Berries Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 422	Posted - 2014.12.01 16:37:00 - [110] - Quote I was half expectingat fanfest a montage reel of Squad B playing Destiny. So no news is good news, i guess. Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?

Mobius Wyvern Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 5464	Posted - 2014.12.01 18:37:00 - [111] - Quote I guess we can be impressed that they're sticking to their guns by leaving this thread open. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Ghural WarRavens Capital Punishment. 353	Posted - 2014.12.01 22:59:00 - [112] - Quote In my opinion the lack of news indicates that the vision of Dust is still in flux, personally I wouldn't be surprised if in another year an announcement is made that Legion is going to be incorporated directly into EVE, like Star Citizen. Of course CCP could just be watching to see what their competitors are up to.
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1002	Posted - 2014.12.01 23:52:00 - [113] - Quote Ghural wrote: In my opinion the lack of news indicates that the vision of Dust is still in flux, personally I wouldn't be surprised if in another year an announcement is made that Legion is going to be incorporated directly into EVE, like Star Citizen. Of course CCP could just be watching to see what their competitors are up to. tail end of fanfest 2014 EVE: Unity yes theyre trying to merge all three games to stem the wave of stur cirturzen DUST will end exactly when CCP wants it to. Which seems to be Fanfest 2015
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5243	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:06:00 - [114] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. Translation: By the time Fan Fest rolls around you will already know everything and there will be nothing new to announce. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
da GAND Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 1016	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:23:00 - [115] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. Translation: By the time Fan Fest rolls around you will already know everything and there will be nothing new to announce. In case you have not noticed it yet: DUST 514 Roadmap! I expect we will get some sort of update on Legion before Fanfest as well. I hope so.. for your sake Fox Gaden... Jk but really I think you might be right about that Should Legion be on the ps4?
Operative 1174 Uuali The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 154	Posted - 2014.12.03 08:38:00 - [116] - Quote Hopefully, CCP has learned not to say anything until they actually have something real to present rather than talk big, show a slick trailer about what they'd like to do and then eat their words. I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 369	Posted - 2014.12.03 11:57:00 - [117] - Quote I hope this means, that CCP realized, that forcing their Dust playerbase to the PC, may be counter productive, since they might as well go to Star Citizen instead... That's at least my thought. I was about to upgrade my rig, to play SC, but since all those changes, the urge is not that big anymore, I may give Dust some more month and see what happens. If I however move to SC, I doubt I'll come back anytime soon, since that game seems to have so much to play with it might take a while to grab it all... Dedicated Minmando Masshole with love for Swarmholing... Not playing logi that much anymore... which is a shame...
DaReaperPW Net 7 40	Posted - 2014.12.03 16:38:00 - [118] - Quote Mad Syringe wrote: I hope this means, that CCP realized, that forcing their Dust playerbase to the PC, may be counter productive, since they might as well go to Star Citizen instead... That's at least my thought. I was about to upgrade my rig, to play SC, but since all those changes, the urge is not that big anymore, I may give Dust some more month and see what happens. If I however move to SC, I doubt I'll come back anytime soon, since that game seems to have so much to play with it might take a while to grab it all... 1) No its not counter productive. TBH its prolly easier on them to manage an FPS from a pc then to have to deal with sony. 2) Please, if concole players are bitching about havign to switch to pc for dust do you HONESTLY think they will play that monstrosity of vaporware if it ever comes out? 3) SC at this point is nothing but hype. With CR at the helm it will take forever to be made or have to be gutted like a fish with 90% of it stripped out to even be offical. He should stop adding new crap, get the core game out and then add stuff. But hes not. Anyway, SC is a non issue vs legion. You can easily play new eden and SC at the same time. So its really nothing. And i'm 90% sure SC will be a huge flop. But we will see. On another note The new Dust roadmap shows nothing of legion but what looks like some good improvements to dust. So things are being done, just which direction is the issue. I wish ccp would just announce a greenlight already then some speculation can die.
da GAND Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 1022	Posted - 2014.12.03 17:03:00 - [119] - Quote DaReaperPW wrote: Mad Syringe wrote: I hope this means, that CCP realized, that forcing their Dust playerbase to the PC, may be counter productive, since they might as well go to Star Citizen instead... That's at least my thought. I was about to upgrade my rig, to play SC, but since all those changes, the urge is not that big anymore, I may give Dust some more month and see what happens. If I however move to SC, I doubt I'll come back anytime soon, since that game seems to have so much to play with it might take a while to grab it all... 1) No its not counter productive. TBH its prolly easier on them to manage an FPS from a pc then to have to deal with sony. 2) Please, if concole players are bitching about havign to switch to pc for dust do you HONESTLY think they will play that monstrosity of vaporware if it ever comes out? 3) SC at this point is nothing but hype. With CR at the helm it will take forever to be made or have to be gutted like a fish with 90% of it stripped out to even be offical. He should stop adding new crap, get the core game out and then add stuff. But hes not. Anyway, SC is a non issue vs legion. You can easily play new eden and SC at the same time. So its really nothing. And i'm 90% sure SC will be a huge flop. But we will see. On another note The new Dust roadmap shows nothing of legion but what looks like some good improvements to dust. So things are being done, just which direction is the issue. I wish ccp would just announce a greenlight already then some speculation can die. Agreed it's probably easier for CCP to manage their own game without having to go through Sony. Star Citizen does have hype up for it but not as much as Titanfall and Destiny did , at least from what I've seen since I don't pay that much attention to it. But I wasn't paying much attention to Destiny and Titanfall but saw plenty of it.( mostly commercials). We've seen more of Star Citizen than we have of Legion though. Should Legion be on the ps4?
DaReaperPW Net 7 42	Posted - 2014.12.03 23:37:00 - [120] - Quote da GAND wrote: DaReaperPW wrote: Mad Syringe wrote: I hope this means, that CCP realized, that forcing their Dust playerbase to the PC, may be counter productive, since they might as well go to Star Citizen instead... That's at least my thought. I was about to upgrade my rig, to play SC, but since all those changes, the urge is not that big anymore, I may give Dust some more month and see what happens. If I however move to SC, I doubt I'll come back anytime soon, since that game seems to have so much to play with it might take a while to grab it all... 1) No its not counter productive. TBH its prolly easier on them to manage an FPS from a pc then to have to deal with sony. 2) Please, if concole players are bitching about havign to switch to pc for dust do you HONESTLY think they will play that monstrosity of vaporware if it ever comes out? 3) SC at this point is nothing but hype. With CR at the helm it will take forever to be made or have to be gutted like a fish with 90% of it stripped out to even be offical. He should stop adding new crap, get the core game out and then add stuff. But hes not. Anyway, SC is a non issue vs legion. You can easily play new eden and SC at the same time. So its really nothing. And i'm 90% sure SC will be a huge flop. But we will see. On another note The new Dust roadmap shows nothing of legion but what looks like some good improvements to dust. So things are being done, just which direction is the issue. I wish ccp would just announce a greenlight already then some speculation can die. Agreed it's probably easier for CCP to manage their own game without having to go through Sony. Star Citizen does have hype up for it but not as much as Titanfall and Destiny did , at least from what I've seen since I don't pay that much attention to it. But I wasn't paying much attention to Destiny and Titanfall but saw plenty of it.( mostly commercials). We've seen more of Star Citizen than we have of Legion though. And as titan fall and destiny did not kill Dust... Thats the point with this stupid argument 'oh ccp is scared of game x! watch game x kill eve/dust/whatever' No, ccp is not scared. No game x won't kill anything. Its not like most people can;t play two games at once. sheesh.



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