Hey guys,

We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables.

Bring back skirmish 1.0 ;_;

If concrete days is hard, something like "autumn of 2015" can be used

Legion is vaporware.

It is not coming out, and when Dust is done it's done.

The only option they have for saving their studio is a PS4 port and eventual migration, but Rouge would rather not do it. Apparently he is under the impression that Legion and the engine its running on will somehow be relevant in 5 or 10 years or whatever it takes for them to theoretically get Legion out of the door.

Hilmar does not have that kind of patience, and he is already soured to the way Dust turned out. This studio is going to be killed slowly. They will start peeling members out of Shanghai one at a time based on usefulness to work on EVE, and when the team has gotten so small that progress no longer happens the rest will finally be laid off.

Ergo, Hello World of Darkness.

I would very much like for everything I just said to be a false. It would make me happier than anything.

To be honest this is pretty typical behaviour for CCP. They show something awesome and then don't talk about it again.

Valkyrie, that mediocre game isn't going to sell. Do CCP really think that the headset gimmick is going to make them rich? I have seen better fighter space sims on PC 5 years ago. Hell current big titles / in development titles already blow it out of the water.

CCP jumps from project to project..... great. No WoD, no Legion. Just some clunky headset fighter sim......

IF you know that CCP knows that Legion is dead in the water, I would hope you would urge them to tell us the truth.

Why do you say this? because a game that has not been in devlopment a yera yet and you got info 3 months ago has gone quite on the news side? You know they are working on it, i would not call it vaporwear just yet, maybe next year, but not after only a few months of devlopment

Hey guys,

We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables.

Except will these round tables be recorded and/or streamed? It would be a shame for Dust/Legion to be relegated to obscurity when it came to letting players hear in a more direct way from the Devs.

We can't count on Streaming. We need spies with video cameras and YouTub channels.

Legion development started october last year.

Hey guys,

We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables.

Hey guys,

We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables.

You honestly dunno what you are talking about. And thats alright. WoD suffered because there cash cow suffered. Then it made no sense when they decided to focus on just the New Eden ip to keep WoD. It would save more money and resources in the long run. Dust is out and making money, and getting some updates. I doubt shanghi has to worry. And as i said before it has not even been a year. It takes time to make a game, patience. And again, i;d rather silence then borken promises that pisses off the player base even more.

Source? But if true, lol Dust was planning on getting replaced after the game has been officially out for about 5 months.

No, YOU don't know what you're talking about. You have absolutely no clue as to the history or inner workings of CCP. I am intimately familiar with both. I have had many friends in and out of the CSM and CPM over the years and know many ex-employees from CCP itself. I know exactly how their middle management is completely disconnected from reality, how employees get shifted from between teams on a regular basis due to extreme levels of incompetence which stalls any progress from happening, and how top management is more than a little influenced towards trend chasing and hasn't been able to follow anything through since EVE's original inception 10 years ago.


Legion IS vaporware. Everyone on the inside knows it, and everyone with a brain on the outside knows it. Some people on the inside are in denial, and struggling like hell to make enough progress so that they don't get shut down. Rattati is pretty much the only thing keeping their lights on right now, and he won't be able to do that for the length of time it's going to take Legion to happen because the numbers for Dust ARE falling bit by bit.

If it takes you 10 more years to figure out this project is doomed, I feel genuinely sorry for you. But you are the one in the dark, not me.

I want the EVE FPS brand to succeed. Legion is not going to be a simple port of Dust -- It is a completely different game with a completely different premise. It is going to have an extremely long development cycle because that's the pace CCP operates at. Let alone with a staff that was almost entirely neutered. A PS4 upgrade of Dust is the only way the numbers are going to go back up within an operational timeframe that will not result in the studio shutting down. And frankly it's the only thing the team can manage with their current size.

There are literally no other options. Hilmar isn't going to keep feeding CCP Shanghai the revenue from EVE. That simply isn't how it works. Rouge gets to decide now whether he sets his team on the path to unemployment with Legion, or gets his house in order and kicks Dust into full gear on PS4.

The door is closing, but it's not closed yet.

I'll agree to disagree, as i can't argue your supposed knowledge or 'credentials' so we will see.

People who claim to have insider knowledge unofficially are pretty regularly proven wrong. Either this means they make a lot of stuff up, or they're not the people who actually are in the know at CCP.

People who claim to have insider knowledge unofficially are pretty regularly proven wrong. Either this means they make a lot of stuff up, or they're not the people who actually are in the know at CCP.

I don't really care if I get in trouble. I've been banned twice already for putting morons in their place.

But I'm not going to throw former employees under the bus. It's up to them to speak out, and they quite often do.. CCP Shanghai members know their own situation, and so does Wormtongue. Whether or not he wants to work to keep CCP Shanghai in business is up to him.

Soraya gives Ghural a reassuring pat on the head.

Things are doing fine. Game is not dead yet.

Hey guys,

We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables.

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Hey guys,

We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables.