DUST Search - Looks like we need to wait fanfest for some news

DaReaperPW wrote:

Buster Friently wrote:

steadyhand amarr wrote:

expect thats it not, EvE is still very very strong...

Except it isn't:

http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

Steady decline, though minimal, since 2013. No growth at all since 2011 overall. Current user logons are consistent with those in 2009. That's not what I would call "very strong".

Except you have no real correlation. Skill queues that can be a year + long means people can walk away form eve and play other stuff.. whill still paying for eve.

Eve offline != subscription numbers. Only whos is online. You really can not get any real info from that site besides how many players are on. And eve has been peaking at 40K+ during prime time for months now, so its rebounding. But again, there is not enough information to support the claim that even is down subscribers. Even if you look at last years 6 month update, you can calculate that eve was down about 2.5k subscriptions in the first 6 months. But how much of that money was dust is the question. There just is no evidence to support either claim unfortunatly

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NoExsplosionsMgee Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance 318	Posted - 2015.01.11 01:34:00 - [151] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. :( PRAISE THE SUN!! \ \|Gö¼\|' /
lateriss ObscuriLateris 22	Posted - 2015.01.13 17:35:00 - [152] - Quote NoExsplosionsMgee wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. :( In Iceland at the fanfest this year- Expect people to ask what is going with Project Legion. Why? Because you guys showed it last year!!!!!!!!!!!!!! C'mon folks- we are your blood!!!!!!!!! Prototype or not at least give us a bone CCP Management.... GëíGïüGëí
castba Rogue Instincts 694	Posted - 2015.01.16 04:44:00 - [153] - Quote da GAND wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. I regret giving CCP any of my money, it was only for an EVE subscription for a few months but still at least I didn't waste any of my money on any of the these things people are willing to buy for their Dust accounts. Grinding in Dust 514 and trusting you guys has been a horrible time. Lol, and yet here you are... "When everything is OP, nothing is" - CCP Ratatti
da GAND Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1102	Posted - 2015.01.16 13:45:00 - [154] - Quote Yes here I am on the Forums mostly awaiting news about Legion but wouldn't be surprised if it got canceled or is in the same position WOD was. Legion is only worth spending the time on these forums because it'll be everything that Dust was suppose to be. I don't waste my time in game anymore because it's still a frustrating game. Lack of teamwork, still getting stuck on stupid ** sometimes, same 3 modes we had before fanfest( I don't count FW and PC anymore). Should Legion be on the ps4?**
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3465	Posted - 2015.01.16 14:53:00 - [155] - Quote Waves doing the same thing....mostly because I don't own a ps3 anymore though lol You can never have to many chaples -Templar True adamance
DaReaperPW Net 7 72	Posted - 2015.01.16 23:50:00 - [156] - Quote da GAND wrote: Yes here I am on the Forums mostly awaiting news about Legion but wouldn't be surprised if it got canceled or is in the same position WOD was. Legion is only worth spending the time on these forums because it'll be everything that Dust was suppose to be. I don't waste my time in game anymore because it's still a frustrating game. Lack of teamwork, still getting stuck on stupid ** sometimes, same 3 modes we had before fanfest( I don't count FW and PC anymore). Its only been a year. Honestly, cancled in a year is not very logicial. And it would be wise of them if IT was cancled to tell it, ** off that bit of blood, then focus heavily on dust. But i just don;t think thats whats going on. I suspect something big might happen at fan fest, but who knows. And i'm here mostly waititng for legion as well. I play dust onc ein a while. but tis a pita to get off the pc where i play eve and go to another room to play the ps3.
crazy space 1 Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 2575	Posted - 2015.01.18 05:29:00 - [157] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: I honestly do hope that CCP will one day figure out that engaging us in a transparent and direct manner will work out better for them than ill-considered statements and misinformation or total silence. . This is why my wife compares my 8 year relationship with CCP akin to a bad girlfriend who I still check up on from time to time.
lateriss ObscuriLateris 26	Posted - 2015.01.18 16:29:00 - [158] - Quote I couldn't agree more in terms of the way Legion is silenced at the moment. I am sure the working class of CCP games want to talk about it but have strict "orders" to be silent. In this phase of the game industry it isn't best to stay silent. Look at how management nearly destroyed Eve Online a few years back, it simply doesn't work anymore. A tale of internet space ships Edited- with all due respect it really needs to be a bit more open. GëíGïüGëí
DaReaperPW Net 7 73	Posted - 2015.01.18 22:43:00 - [159] - Quote lateriss wrote: I couldn't agree more in terms of the way Legion is silenced at the moment. I am sure the working class of CCP games want to talk about it but have strict "orders" to be silent. In this phase of the game industry it isn't best to stay silent. Look at how management nearly destroyed Eve Online a few years back, it simply doesn't work anymore. A tale of internet space ships Edited- with all due respect it really needs to be a bit more open. I disagree. Being more open about 1) a game not yet green lite that is having devs switch in and out of it to work on dust, is not very wise. 2) Lets say, after the Rouge Wedding, that dust rebounded with player numbers and money, lets say CCP is mainly focused on legion, and dust is still just getting some random old backlogged filled, maybe to pave the way for legion boo knows. But lets say dust is making money, maybe not tons, but enough. If they did not have anything about dust, because dust is in a state of shut down, and they mentioned only legion and shown its progress, it would drive MORE players away from dust. From a business perceptive this makes zero sense. Also lets flip it. Lets say they show some neat things for dust, and nothing of legion, cause legion is not ready to show anything. And then. lets say they get lots of feed back form players saying 'we want legion' or lets say a few months later they make a breakthrough and someone legion is done sooner. Then they cancel the dust development stuff they showed at fan fest, and that will leave a bad taste in players mouths. I mean hell, you have guys who are foaming at the mouth for Star Citizen who play eve and keep mentioning a fan fest video ccp did in 04 as a possible concept for atmospheric flight. Things ccp has announced gets held over there heads if they don;t finish it. So why announce anything thats not even close to be done. The point i am making, Dust and Legion are on a precarious position atm. If they do or say the wrong thing it could damage both products for no reason. So best to stay silent for anything not done so you don't hurt your product more then you need to.
Roy Xkillerz Red Star. 54	Posted - 2015.03.15 12:06:00 - [160] - Quote http://evenews24.com/2015/03/14/released-fanfest-2015-steam-schedule/ So they released the schedule. Sadly I don't see anything about legion into it. I do see this. Make Eve Real GÇô Creating Planetary Civilizations. But thats about real life. So are the devs gonna by as rocks and ignore the lowering player base and don't say anything about dust or legion? Atm still unsubbed on eve before the future vision is clear every year the concept changes 360 degrees. I want to control a war barge in eve online and hire mercs. I am really not happy how stuff is going just a honest opinion but I am following it because I hope stuff does becomes better. If not then i am off to star citizen. People that go to fanfest try to get some info out of them if they are still developing on Legion.

Cypher Nil Fireteam Tempest 75	Posted - 2015.03.15 18:03:00 - [161] - Quote G Felix wrote: Well, I guess no news is better than bad news that scatters our player base to the wind... Actually not really, I was playing dust again because of the promise of carrying my progress over to legion but no news is making me doubt legion is coming and dust is rubbish now so I've stopped playing Its ok, I'm a ninja
Spectre-M The Generals 876	Posted - 2015.03.18 04:11:00 - [162] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables. Haven't been here for 4 months. Thought I'd see if there was ANY post by a dev, and this is what I see. I only logged in to laugh at you CCP. Epic fail. You guys need to pull your heads out of your ass or be left behind. Smh Minnmitar in Amarr armor. A Wolf in Sheeps clothing. May the Empress live till she graces my sights.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 5355	Posted - 2015.03.18 13:13:00 - [163] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: I think ccp is fed of hype trains derailing and exploding on them tbh. Looking at WoD development it will be 5-6 years before we see anything from legion anyway =ƒÿå WoD was never talked about because they never had anything. Legion will never be talked about because they don't have anything. Usually banned for being too awesome.
Kain Spero Negative-Feedback. 4766	Posted - 2015.03.19 10:43:00 - [164] - Quote Fanfest has arrived and yet CCP hasn't breathed a word of any real news. Not saying anything at Fanfest? Fine. Not saying anything at all? Things looking grim. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3652	Posted - 2015.03.19 11:59:00 - [165] - Quote Bwah. Don't often see you in this ghost town Kain =ƒÿå. The regulars kinda worked that months ago =ƒÿå You can never have to many chaples -Templar True adamance
lateriss ObscuriLateris 41	Posted - 2015.03.21 07:23:00 - [166] - Quote http://massivelyop.net/2015/03/20/eve-fanfest-2015-project-legion-may-be-in-development-limbo/ GëíGïüGëí
da GAND Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1139	Posted - 2015.03.21 16:03:00 - [167] - Quote lateriss wrote: http://massivelyop.net/2015/03/20/eve-fanfest-2015-project-legion-may-be-in-development-limbo/ Well the guys from EVE understand how we feel as well Should Legion be on the ps4?
lateriss ObscuriLateris 43	Posted - 2015.03.21 17:00:00 - [168] - Quote Well there is some good news for us Dust514 players on the PS3. Dust 514 is now profitable for CCP games. Which means if they port it to the PC it would mean more profit. It would seem upper management are making silly decisions on PL...no offense Source Quote: This is one of the most surprising things from Fanfest this year: CCP is happy with DUST 514, and the game is going well. I also asked about Project Legion, the sort of announced game from last year that CCP said may or may not become a product. I was told there was nothing to announce. "WeGÇÖre looking into a lot of options for whatGÇÖs going to happen next for Dust," P+¬tursson said. "ItGÇÖs too early to say anything to be honest. The game is now a profitable business for CCP, and thatGÇÖs a good thing." But it is still a terrible thing to blow off your community CCP in terms of PL. GëíGïüGëí
da GAND Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1140	Posted - 2015.03.21 18:50:00 - [169] - Quote I wouldn't mind all the stuff they are doing with Dust514 as long I knew these were test for Legion or a Dust514 port to PC and maybe PS4. CCP seems too small of a company to be this silent about development of there games and sometimes one part of the company not knowing what the other part was doing. Should Legion be on the ps4?
lateriss ObscuriLateris 43	Posted - 2015.03.22 18:21:00 - [170] - Quote I just downloaded the unreal engine 4. Time to do my own thing. In the meantime at least Dust514 is alive, Eve Valkyrie looks awesome, and Eve Online is kicking butt. GëíGïüGëí

Spectre-M The Generals 877	Posted - 2015.03.23 05:48:00 - [171] - Quote lateriss wrote: http://massivelyop.net/2015/03/20/eve-fanfest-2015-project-legion-may-be-in-development-limbo/ That's...unfortunate. Not surprised about this news tbh. I find it ironic that they tried to kill dust at the previous fanfest and are now going back to console focus. Too bad, maybe they could have avoided the red wedding completely and had put the last year or so focusing on one format. Ccp keeps choking on their own tongue. Minnmitar in Amarr armor. A Wolf in Sheeps clothing. May the Empress live till she graces my sights.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2427	Posted - 2015.03.23 20:29:00 - [172] - Quote lateriss wrote: I just downloaded the unreal engine 4. Time to do my own thing. In the meantime at least Dust514 is alive, Eve Valkyrie looks awesome, and Eve Online is kicking butt. Yes, if by kicking butt you mean losing subscribers and slowly petering out, much like Dust as well. We'll see if Valkyrie is enough to keep CCP afloat, but I doubt it.
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3668	Posted - 2015.03.23 21:23:00 - [173] - Quote expect thats it not, EvE is still very very strong... You can never have to many chaples -Templar True adamance
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2427	Posted - 2015.03.23 22:21:00 - [174] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: expect thats it not, EvE is still very very strong... Except it isn't: http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility Steady decline, though minimal, since 2013. No growth at all since 2011 overall. Current user logons are consistent with those in 2009. That's not what I would call "very strong".
DaReaperPW Net 7 82	Posted - 2015.03.25 16:16:00 - [175] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: expect thats it not, EvE is still very very strong... Except it isn't: http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility Steady decline, though minimal, since 2013. No growth at all since 2011 overall. Current user logons are consistent with those in 2009. That's not what I would call "very strong". Except you have no real correlation. Skill queues that can be a year + long means people can walk away form eve and play other stuff.. whill still paying for eve. Eve offline != subscription numbers. Only whos is online. You really can not get any real info from that site besides how many players are on. And eve has been peaking at 40K+ during prime time for months now, so its rebounding. But again, there is not enough information to support the claim that even is down subscribers. Even if you look at last years 6 month update, you can calculate that eve was down about 2.5k subscriptions in the first 6 months. But how much of that money was dust is the question. There just is no evidence to support either claim unfortunatly
Kayla Michael Tactical Logistics and Cargo 88	Posted - 2015.03.25 17:10:00 - [176] - Quote da GAND wrote: Isa Lucifer wrote: seems so, but patience rewards. Ya... just like last fanfest... cuz we all thought we were getting something new for Dust.... Which still aggravates me to this very day. Yay, that they are working on Legion. A better DUST and all.. still wished they haven't hyped it up like that, got a lot of us believing DUST would be even better. I eat drahp uplink, me thinks this isn't a cookie. `~`
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11269	Posted - 2015.03.27 02:33:00 - [177] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: expect thats it not, EvE is still very very strong... Except it isn't: http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility Steady decline, though minimal, since 2013. No growth at all since 2011 overall. Current user logons are consistent with those in 2009. That's not what I would call "very strong". Keep in mind that Eve-Offline is not accounting for those passive players who are on call for any major fleet battles that may occur. The recent addition of infinite skill queue may have played a role as well. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
DaReaperPW Net 7 82	Posted - 2015.03.29 00:42:00 - [178] - Quote Fan fest made sense, they only showed what was possibly coming in the near future, as in in 2015. They have nothing new to report for legion, and where as last year they shot dust in the foot, dust is making money, so might as well milk the cash cow for a bit longer before killing it
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2427	Posted - 2015.04.03 03:36:00 - [179] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Buster Friently wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: expect thats it not, EvE is still very very strong... Except it isn't: http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility Steady decline, though minimal, since 2013. No growth at all since 2011 overall. Current user logons are consistent with those in 2009. That's not what I would call "very strong". Keep in mind that Eve-Offline is not accounting for those passive players who are on call for any major fleet battles that may occur. The recent addition of infinite skill queue may have played a role as well. Eve offline counts anyone who logs in. It's true it doesn't count how many people are paying, but one can assume that it's related quite strongly to the number of concurrencies.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2427	Posted - 2015.04.03 03:37:00 - [180] - Quote DaReaperPW wrote: Buster Friently wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: expect thats it not, EvE is still very very strong... Except it isn't: http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility Steady decline, though minimal, since 2013. No growth at all since 2011 overall. Current user logons are consistent with those in 2009. That's not what I would call "very strong". Except you have no real correlation. Skill queues that can be a year + long means people can walk away form eve and play other stuff.. whill still paying for eve. Eve offline != subscription numbers. Only whos is online. You really can not get any real info from that site besides how many players are on. And eve has been peaking at 40K+ during prime time for months now, so its rebounding. But again, there is not enough information to support the claim that even is down subscribers. Even if you look at last years 6 month update, you can calculate that eve was down about 2.5k subscriptions in the first 6 months. But how much of that money was dust is the question. There just is no evidence to support either claim unfortunatly Yes, it's rebounding, if by rebounding you mean a steady decline since 2014. Lol.



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