Hey guys,

We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables.

Wow.

Just found this thread and unfortunately read all of it.

It would be a mistake for CCP not to do SOMETHING Dust/Legion related at Fanfest, precisely because of the results of the last two.

They F'd up majorly, and they need to take the time, even if it is just a little, to make it right.

So far, Fanfest and to Dust has been synonymous with deception, intended or not, and flat out disrespect to the community.

If they don't take the time to have some sort of panel, it doesn't have to be big, just something small but positive with no promises or exaggerations, then they only cement the view of those within this community that believe we are thought of as a second class of gamers/customers.

Rattati, Logibro, Frame and CCP Shanghai have done a lot for Dust lately, but even then it feels like they are fighting an uphill battle within CCP.

If CCP as a whole can't take the time to carve out even the smallest of portions of time for Dust, then their silence really says all that can be said about how CCP views Dust/Legion.

Hey guys,

We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables.

So if you're not going to have Dust/Legion at Fanfest, does that mean something is being he for like ..... I don't know.... Playstation Conference at E3? Or maybe the 6+ years of work for this sandbox MMOFPS was for nothing.

Hey guys,

We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables.

Whoa.

Really?

It's like that?

Well, if CCP has no plans to announce ANYTHING about Dust or Legion... that can be translated as them not caring about Dust/Legion, besides it being a passive income source feeding off gamer hopes.


To believe I spent money here since after this post was made... I wish I had seen this post sooner.
I appreciate your professionalism in giving us the heads up, Frame.

This is the second biggest disappointment in all my years as a gamer.

Uninstalling Dust.

Well, if CCP has no plans to announce ANYTHING about Dust or Legion... that can be translated as them not caring about Dust/Legion, besides it being a passive income source feeding off gamer hopes.

To believe I spent money here since after this post was made... I wish I had seen this post sooner.
I appreciate your professionalism in giving us the heads up, Frame.

This is the second biggest disappointment in all my years as a gamer.

Uninstalling Dust.

Perhaps you have also not seen the post where they announce the next release for Dust coming soon...

/sigh

But keep trying to defend not having anything to announce at Fanfest.

I will keep defending it. Because holding stuff to announce at Fanfest is a stupid idea, and I'm glad CCP is posting stuff as soon as it's possible, like announcing the next release and such, rather than waiting for a marketing event that has backfired two years in a row.

Edit: Saying last years Fanfest backfired depends on your view. Legion is to make their EVE players happy, and I believe Fanfest didn't backfire in regards to that.

Last Fanfest definitely backfired. Nuking their existing product's playerbase for a demo of improved graphics that didn't even show any new gameplay? Um... yeah, that's what you call a backfire.

I would say it nuked a lot of the core playerbase/community. DUST gets a lot of new players, and particularly there's been a huge uptick in South America, which I think is pretty noticeable in-game. But a lot of the core community seems to have moved on. And yeah, Fanfest is kinda the number one cause there.

CCP should have made the DUST keynote about DUST, explained what they were doing for DUST. And then at the end said, early preview, here's the other thing we're working on.

CCP should have made the DUST keynote about DUST, explained what they were doing for DUST. And then at the end said, early preview, here's the other thing we're working on.

or not called it a dust keynote if it wasn't abut dust

CCP should have made the DUST keynote about DUST, explained what they were doing for DUST. And then at the end said, early preview, here's the other thing we're working on.

I will keep defending it. Because holding stuff to announce at Fanfest is a stupid idea, and I'm glad CCP is posting stuff as soon as it's possible, like announcing the next release and such, rather than waiting for a marketing event that has backfired two years in a row.

Soraya, it's not an announcement that's a bad idea, it's what you announce and how. Dust was already dying, and Legion was not announced well.
Giving full thought on how to treat the Dust playerbase should have been a priority, because us PC people aren't going anywhere, and would play Legion regardless of what happened with Dust.

I got the surveys and heard the Legion announcement, and came back to play Dust, just to see the game evolve. The current Dust team has done a good job making Dust something remotely enjoyable again. But the game cannot evolve here.
You can polish and fine tune all day long, but evolve it will not.
EVE was able to evolve over time, because it not only had a dedicated fanbase and dev team (as Dust also does), but it also had a platform with which it could evolve, the PC.

Dust does not have this.

Someone can't go out and say, 'let me improve my PS3' so I can enjoy Dust better.
Dust is a console online multiplayer exclusive. Such an exclusive dies with its system.
How many people still play Killzone 1 multiplayer? How about Halo: Combat Evolved or Halo 2? http://www.bungie.net/en-US/Forum/Post/2139032/0/0

But you can easily find those games on PC today.

Even if CCP just straight up ports it raw to PC, that immortalizes it. And brings them more money. And if they really really want to, they can make it great.
But to leave a game like this, which has far more potential than Killzone or Halo ever had, on this one platform that cannot grow, and not even announce something like, "We will move it to PC eventually, don't sweat." leaves me speechless. So for me and some others, it doesn't matter how healthy Dust may get on the PS3, if nothing is announced, and no plans for its future success are considered, it's a waste. It's like having a party on the Titanic.

Killzone made numerous iterations of itself, as did Halo.
Why should Dust die? Why can't something long term be considered? It's an excellent product? What am I overlooking?

WoW is still around. Everquest is still around. Mechwarrior is still around. Ancient games. Alive because of both a dedicated playerbase and platform that will never grow old.
Why is Dust being denied this still? Because people got mad over an announcement that was made improperly?

I'm done with Dust for now. I set the timetable that I would stop playing Dust, if they don't show any interests in porting it or making it evolve, namely if they don't say what they want to work on by FF. But they are on their timetable, not mine.

If they get going in a direction that I agree with again, then I will come back. I'm not deleting my character or anything drastic like that. I am just not going to play Dust or buy anything from them, for it.

Hey guys,

We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables.

Hey guys,

We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables.