Dear players,

after thoroughly discussing with the scout community, these are our proposed changes.

EWAR Calculations

I have documented all the necessary and relevant scenarios, I hope. At the top of the document, I have collected the key numbers and tried to put them into perspective.

Galogi focused scanner gets the highest range and precision possible, due to it being 1) active, 2) narrow and 3) having a limited duration. This helps establish boundaries that scouts need to live within.

That said, by a combination of racial bonuses and dedication of slots

All scouts can have similar range, 76m to 91, under the Focused at 100m. This is under review, and I am looking at reducing Range amplifiers to 30% instead of the current 45%.

All scouts can get under the focused scan dB by using a cloak, exception Gallente not needing cloak.

All scouts can get under the best passive scan dB by using 2 dampeners and cloak or 3 dampeners.

Best passive at 2 precision modules is beaten by best dampener at 2 dampening modules.

Minmatar get a small PG boost, and all scouts can utilize a very slight PG reduction of KinCats andCodebreakers, possibly Nova Knifes.

Nova Knifes will get increased Aim Adhesion, making hit detection work a little better in close quarters, a damage boost 120/160/200 and possibly a little increase in aim, 2.00m to 2.25m OR 2.50m

This does not require Codebreakers to be in high, so don't assume that is the case.

Please keep your comments civil and on topic. Changing bonuses to module efficacy or other ideas of the sort are not on the table for now.

I would like to know the thinking behind giving Gallente precision?

Just a comment on the google docs numbers. Nothing is *ever* rounded in dust, nor is it truncated. It is *only* ever rounded for display purposes, if you had 11.111111123 precision on one fit and 11.111111122 profile on another fit that first fit would never be able to passive scan the second fit, as nothing is *ever* rounded.

Gallente Logis have had precision to active scanners for awhile now.

I don't think that is regarding gal scouts.

Scroll to the right and you'll find gallente scout, Bigger bonus to Dampening, smaller one to precision.

What is the purpose of giving the caldari scout 3% profile per level.?

Bastard!

I just edited my post and you had to quote me. How dare you sir!!

Dear players,

after thoroughly discussing with the scout community, these are our proposed changes.

EWAR Calculations

Gal Scout unnecessary Precision bonus.

Gal Scout needs Profile Dumpting -5%/lv only. they are Spy. arenot Recon.

so it can get decent precision with their 2H slots, if that's what they want. Its a supplementary second skill to make sure all of them have two and to even the playing field. that's also why cal is getting a dampening bonus.

Gal Scout unnecessary Precision bonus.

Gal Scout needs Profile Dumpting -5%/lv only. they are Spy. arenot Recon.

what are you going to do about how far they can toss remotes?

keep in mind with how hard they are to see already and how high they can jump and how fast they are, tossing remotes 10 meters almost undetected makes them OP...

so they either need to be more easily detectable or the Frisbee mechanic needs a hard cap on how far they can be thrown.

Just a comment on the google docs numbers. Nothing is *ever* rounded in dust, nor is it truncated. It is *only* ever rounded for display purposes, if you had 11.111111123 precision on one fit and 11.111111122 profile on another fit that first fit would never be able to passive scan the second fit, as nothing is *ever* rounded.

I'm not sure who told you they did, but they're wrong. It's possible to deal fractions of a point of damage.

I see you gave a reason for gallente scouts to not stack shield extenders. Me like.

So...

You're basically making it so that all scouts can have similar maximum values provided they use the majority of the specific type of slots to do so.

I could be wrong, but I still see caldari scouts stacking 450 shields on their suit and using the dampening/range passives to be able to use other low slot mods

Maybe this is good balancing for competitive play, but this game isn't Scout 514 (or is it? Correct me if I'm wrong here). Caldari scouts have such a low shield delay that the penalty for stacking extenders doesn't affect them, meaning that unlike Assaults they never have to run shield regulators for a tanked shield fit to be viable. They also have a base shield recharge rate of 50, meaning that shield energizers or rechargers are also never needed.

On top of everything, scouts don't need to actually use the modules to get these bonuses. They don't need to equip a damp to get the damp bonus, whereas an assault has to use that specific weapon to get the weapon bonus, or a logi using the specific equipment to get the equipment bonus.
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While yes I understand that Assaults are getting a buff here soon as well, there's more of a reason why the Caldari scout is used more than others besides the bonuses it has compared to other scouts.

It has way too many advantages towards slaying for a scout. Scouts already have a small hitbox, lower profile, and faster movement speed. Allowing the Caldari one to also have the best regeneration of any suit, a huge amount of fitting space, and high HP values with barely any penalty is just silly.

It's called balance.

Don't worry though, you can still be a Sentinel with a laser rifle.

i agree...

Cal Scout is already best Assaulting scout. (High-Shield Recharge, No movement penalty by Shield Tanking, Small Hitbox)
In addition, it's that offset by new bonus, (weaknesses low slot is small) it is ABSURD.


CCP was reduced Dumpting bonus to say fits becomes easy, and reducing the scan radius does not match the role of each scout when nerf Gallen te scout !!!

The first place, because Gal Scout is hiding suit, I do not know the meaning to get a half-hearted Scan Precision, and do not know why to get Profile Dumpting bonus on Cal Scout.

Behavior Mismatch. why?


And...Scout side Though it is mandatory measures, Gal Logi is fine only with a focus scanner. OP.

Well, thank you Ghost Kaisar :)

I understand the theory. But, reason for using Gal Scout to be remains of this spreadsheet is not inspires...
I think differentiation is badly.pÇÇpÇÇsad ;p