What is the purpose of giving the caldari scout 3% profile per level.?

Thought the de-cloak animation time has been reduced, mitigating the effectiveness of this? Still exists due to lag/rendering, but I haven't found this to be as much of an issue as it was originally. Obviously I still don't see scouts who de-cloak behind me, but I've noticed a diference with scrub scouts who attack head on.

When I was told that Caldari and Gallente Logis would no longer the very best at everything, I asked myself "which suit will be capable of supporting my mad slayer skillz?"

On respec, I put 5.5 million SP into the two scout suits with the best chance of becoming FoTM (Caldari and Gallente). You are now proposing to ignore that investment and make the Amarr and Minmatar Scouts useful, when they previously had no use whatsoever. There was never any hint that the four Scout suits might become balanced, and it makes no sense to make them balanced now.

It is a shameless PTW tactic - take away one FoTM and its SP investment so people have to buy boosters to be first into the next FoTM. But do you really think players will continue to chase FoTM when you disregard their decisions? Persistence is supposed to be the selling point of the game. FFS give me back my Flaylock.

I usually laugh at respec suggestions but there is strong case where you decide to move L33T slayers like me from one frame to another.

I'm also concerned about the fact that Scouts are receiving a significant buff here.

Consider e.g. that Assaults will need two dampeners to hide from base Gallente and Amarr scans. This equals not using dampeners but rather using another Scout for your assaulting.

One way to go about it is to adjust the Medium suit's scan stats too. I'll bring this up when we start discussing that topic.

Otherwise I'm fine with the Scout-vs-Scout interaction here. Still hoping for that scan range reduction, preferably to base scan range rather than module efficacy. Powerful eWar modules are good because every eWar module equipped is one hp-module less. Powerful base stats are bad because they are a buff to brick tanked Scouts.

What's EWAR?

Looking over the spreadsheet and something hit me: Gallente precision is essentially pointless -

Yes, the precision bonus is better than the current, ****** range bonus. But by pointless I mean: it has zero impact on the uppermost level, and has next to no impact on any level where dampening is even vaguely used. The point is that the bonus to precision is small enough to not step on toes, but so small that it will not affect any Scout fitting a single dampener and any fitting more than one will easily evade the GalScout scans.

More to the point, any going to the effort to avoid being scanned will likely fit two dampeners, rendering the GalScout bonus moot: you already scan mediums/heavies and you will not scan any Scoutly Scouts (ie, non-Brick Tanked Scouts.)

So in essence, it is as useless as the range bonus we have now, because Scouts will be being pointed at EWar/dampening more heavily than before.

1. Scouts too squishy? Yep, that's called a trade off.

2.They do, however, get a guaranteed first strike, since they won't get scanned, with all Scouts able to evade all scans.

3. GalLogi cannot scan any Scout if they choose to dampen.

Evidently few agree with me.

You've yet to really refute my point that the 2% precision/level is irrelevant considering both the current and upcoming meta.

Hah! I appreciate that response. I did kind of pine for the days when I started scouting, dodging around people without the cloak being around.

Still, I just feel something else - small - would just be more useful. Even a 1% to hack speed would be useful, because it would still always apply to any hack without being negated by there being much bigger threats (read: everyone dampening because of AmScout/GalLogi.)

I mean, I also get that the precision will be really helpful when finding all those snowflakes who run their AmScout with shields and biotics... But that just doesn't feel like a worthwhile bonus to me.

Gal Logi scanners are more likely than not going to cause balance problems. We're going along with it for now because we can't prove that something's a problem until Nyain San has spammed the sh*t out of it for 3 months.

I agree that Minmatar could do with some help ...

...perhaps there could be pg reductions for codebreakers and kincats exclusively for Min Scouts?

So you admit that an RE can be thrown? At least admission of the problem is the first step towards fixing it. ;)

If you want to talk about problems then talk about fixing them, not their side effects.

I, for one, do not have an issue with REs being used. However, I do have an issue with their being thrown as far as they are. As a Logi-Bro, my awareness is focused on watching my squad's backs. (If only more people watched the Logi's back.) When I am killed by REs, it is usually from a 10m-15m distance - rarely from under 10m and occasionally from 30m+ (I'm guessing those are dropped from buildings/towers). Those are grenade distances.

So it looks like we should all move to GalScout as Assault changes look uninspiring.

Nothing beats being invisible in an FPS.

(Also, Cloak should provide no bonus to dampening.)

The numbers i get so far is 290 shield/ 84 armor (154, 755 ISK) which wont handle a single shot from the proto shotgun or last 2 sec against proto HMG and even if i survive i wont be able to regen my armor to fight a second round, been in that situation so many times and dont bring that "u dont play skillful" speech, i have my experience.

What I would suggest to fix this would be to increase the CPU on scouts, though right now your probably thinking "WTF you saying!? BUFF them again? Yo crazy" first, let me finish and second yes I am. I would suggest to increase the CPU on scouts WHILE severely reducing the PG, why may you ask? because every E-war module only takes CPU. This would intern emphsise the usage of scan modules and dampeners on scout suits, mainly because you would not be able to fit much hp modules on. This would have scouts become more stealthy, scanny and, if they fail to ambush you, easyer to kill.

I think the PG needs to be reduced on scouts.

The breach only having 2 shots, with a longer fire interval and slower reload. That would actually make me use it if it could kill a sentinel in 2 shots