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Grimmiers
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Posted - 2014.06.07 22:26:00 -
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Does the melee attack with nova knives out do melee damage or the knife damage? If they don't make the melee attack do the same damage as an uncharged knife and also make it say "nova knife" on the killfeed. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.06.07 22:55:00 -
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Mezdner's Modified GN-55 Nova Knives
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.06.07 23:17:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Nothi Knives? Endorsed by SpadeGäó
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2014.06.07 23:55:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Nothi Knives?
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.06.08 02:07:00 -
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Is aim adhesion what we're calling aim assist now?
Is a range longer than 2m really necessary for a knife? I mean, really. Do our dropsuits have go-go-gadget arms? If people are complaining about the range of their knives, well then maybe they shouldn't have brought a knife to a gun fight.
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Sir Dukey
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.08 03:26:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Oh, and I forgot to mention. If I were to make some officer Nova Knives, I would need a name to put on them.
Sword-logibro Nova Knives.... longer blades.. look like swords... no charge... full max damage... |
IgniteableAura
The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance
1209
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Posted - 2014.06.08 03:55:00 -
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For reference, sprint charging was in the game until they fixed it in 1.4 and knives were not OP or FOTM. Allow sprint charge only on minmitar's that have sprint speed above 10. Which means you likely have no other weapon, therefore you sacrifice a great deal of both HP and versatility just to knife.
The only tangible bonus to ishnoks is their additional damage, the difference in charge time from 1 to 0.8 is of very little use. I would say 75% of the time if you don't 1HK your target they become magical bouncing ballerinas and instablap you.
Now with the proposed changes of aim friction and additional range, it could help with follow up strikes landing on bouncing ballerinas. The increase in "strike speed" will also hopefully help to hit moving targets with charge knives. Currently you have to sprint jump charge land swipe. Something that is easily evaded if your target changes vector.
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.08 04:08:00 -
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Grimmiers wrote:Does the melee attack with nova knives out do melee damage or the knife damage? If they don't make the melee attack do the same damage as an uncharged knife and also make it say "nova knife" on the killfeed.
It goes off the suit damage, which I personally think is dumb as hell
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Ghost Kaisar
The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.08 05:09:00 -
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mr musturd wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Oh, and I forgot to mention. If I were to make some officer Nova Knives, I would need a name to put on them. Ill knife duel you for it
You guys really should hold a small tournament to name the Officer Knives. The guy who wins gets his name on the Weapon and 100x of them.
2nd Place gets 50x
3rd. Gets 25x
I really want a NK tournament. I was beat by several in raw kills during the Event, but so far, I've only run into two people that beat me routinely in 1v1's with Knives.
That was Musturd and Radar.
Radar doesn't play anymore.
I want my chance for the Semi-Finals
EDIT:
Obligatory name of BK-201 Nova Knives
Though I gotta say, I would love to see them named the "Nothi Knives"
Too bad CCP doesn't get the humor
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danie braz
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.08 11:29:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Oh, and I forgot to mention. If I were to make some officer Nova Knives, I would need a name to put on them.
An event. Person with most nova knife kills wins. Boom. Where is my isk for this?
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pagl1u M
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.08 12:10:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:pagl1u M wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Alright, due to me actually looking into this a bit more I've actually found a few other things I would like to try tweaking before reducing backwards movement speed (which does on second thought have a much wider impact across the game than just chasing someone with Nova Knives).
Two things I want to try first are slightly increasing the range (currently 2 meters) and turning on aim adhesion for Nova Knives (to help you track targets at close quarters). I could also adjust the angle you do damage in, but I'm hesitant to increase it, not without trying the other two out first at least.
The other dial I've seen I can tweak is the delay between when you release the trigger and when you make your two hits. I can lower that a bit without affecting the time between "shots", but I'm not sure how helpful that's going to be. Are you trying to make me play again? Yes. if I only had time I'd come back. Keep up the good work Logibro, Rattati and everyone is working on Dust.
Just one thing: please remember that you have to balance knives not only for publics but for PC too. Atm I think only a couple of players use them in PC. It is just too hard. In PC you dont face enemies that stand still, it is really hard to earn a kill with knives in PC....you better use shotgun if you want to be' effective.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.06.08 12:23:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote: You guys really should hold a small tournament to name the Officer Knives. The guy who wins gets his name on the Weapon ...
I much prefer Mollerz suggestion: Name them after the merc with the most career NK Kills.
Methinks our Legacy should speak to our History. Of the following, which is more historically significant?
A) A merc who acrued 40,000+ career shankings B) A kid who no-lifed a tournament
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Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.06.08 15:17:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Oh, and I forgot to mention. If I were to make some officer Nova Knives, I would need a name to put on them. Alldin's CL-8 Nova Knives
I may finally retire if this happens...
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Ghost Kaisar
The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.08 17:35:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote: You guys really should hold a small tournament to name the Officer Knives. The guy who wins gets his name on the Weapon ...
I much prefer Mollerz suggestion: Name them after the merc with the most career NK Kills.Methinks our Legacy should speak to our History. Of the following, which is more historically significant? A) A merc who acrued 40,000+ career shankings B) A kid who no-lifed a tournament
But does CCP have a way of tracking that?
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.08 19:05:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Oh, and I forgot to mention. If I were to make some officer Nova Knives, I would need a name to put on them. Well, I'd be a sad minja if i couldn't slide my 'Makenrazr' into Aisha Ctarl someday ;)
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Spartan MK420
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.06.08 19:10:00 -
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mr musturd wrote:Never ever ever allow a sprint while charged mechanic the only thing they need is the same aim assistance that the melee uses and possibly a very small range increase NOT a lunge mechanic. But seriously sprint while charge is one sure way to make knives OP, people can hate me all they want for this comment but its not needed for me to be able to sprint at the speed of light and 1hko everything in sight. As for the changes in Alpha I haven't noticed any real difference
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.06.08 19:17:00 -
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IgniteableAura wrote:For reference, sprint charging was in the game until they fixed it in 1.4 and knives were not OP or FOTM. Allow sprint charge only on minmitar's that have sprint speed above 10. Which means you likely have no other weapon, therefore you sacrifice a great deal of both HP and versatility just to knife.
The only tangible bonus to ishnoks is their additional damage, the difference in charge time from 1 to 0.8 is of very little use. I would say 75% of the time if you don't 1HK your target they become magical bouncing ballerinas and instablap you.
Now with the proposed changes of aim friction and additional range, it could help with follow up strikes landing on bouncing ballerinas. The increase in "strike speed" will also hopefully help to hit moving targets with charge knives. Currently you have to sprint jump charge land swipe. Something that is easily evaded if your target changes vector. It wasn't OP then because up until 1.6 or 1.7 NKs had major hit detection issues.
I would literally stand behind a sniper fully charged, the red being completely still, let my knives fly, see the blue flash, and have no damage done.
These hit detection issues severely hindered the knives, and made the charge sprint a non issue.
At this point in time, hit detection issues are rare, and I would rather not EVER risk making knives OP, and then seeing the subsequent QQ and nerfhammer. There are plenty of ways to get around not having charged sprint, and it doesn't take too long to learn them.
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JoeShmoe From Kokomo
Third Rock From The Sun
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Posted - 2014.06.08 21:18:00 -
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Of all the weapons we have, why is it that the Nova Knife has the LEAST #of skill nodes? Every other weapon has several nodes within them. We need more range. Hell the ablity to throw knives fixxes that problem. limit it to say 7m. allow us to pick them up after throwin them. I dont wanna see NKs having ammo. Make throwin a skill nodes that incresses throwing range. Id max range 15m. I know IRL that i can throw a knike 30m+(not sayin I always hit the target) |
JoeShmoe From Kokomo
Third Rock From The Sun
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Posted - 2014.06.08 21:24:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:[quote=CCP Logibro]Oh, and I forgot to mention. If I were to make some officer Nova Knives, I would need a name to put on them.
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Spartan MK420
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.06.09 02:43:00 -
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JoeShmoe From Kokomo wrote:Vrain Matari wrote:[quote=CCP Logibro]Oh, and I forgot to mention. If I were to make some officer Nova Knives, I would need a name to put on them. Mr. Musterd
I wouldn't mind swinging some Mr. Musturd Knives around.
And if there were officer knives...how would they work? Give them no charge ability, but it still does charged dmg in a quick swipe?
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Spartan MK420
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Posted - 2014.06.09 02:50:00 -
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I can hear it now, "I gotta catch up and musturd that guy"
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mr musturd
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2014.06.09 04:54:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote: You guys really should hold a small tournament to name the Officer Knives. The guy who wins gets his name on the Weapon ...
I much prefer Mollerz suggestion: Name them after the merc with the most career NK Kills.Methinks our Legacy should speak to our History. Of the following, which is more historically significant? A) A merc who acrued 40,000+ career shankings B) A kid who no-lifed a tournament musturd knives ? please?
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.09 06:41:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Oh, and I forgot to mention. If I were to make some officer Nova Knives, I would need a name to put on them. Alldin's CL-8 Nova Knives I may finally retire if this happens...
That would not be the intended effect...
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2014.06.09 06:44:00 -
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JoeShmoe From Kokomo wrote:Also add absolute range so we get intel just like other weapons.(same to shotgun) This^^ A good idea in my opinion.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.06.09 10:11:00 -
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Backpedaling speeds should not be slower than strafing.
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BLOOD Ruler
The Lionheart Coalition
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Posted - 2014.06.09 10:47:00 -
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It should effect it though
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pagl1u M
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.09 11:16:00 -
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I have a request and an idea.
Request: do not make them OP.just no! None here wants to see everyone usino them just because they are OP. Babysteps is the way to go.
IDEA: Maybe this is a stupid idea but...what if you give us the possibility to knife while we are using the primary weapon? An example: I m a minscout with combat rifle and NK. I start shooting an enemy in colse range and when I ma really close to hit I press R3 and my character uses both his knives, them it go back to his rifle. Like it was in MAG or it is in COD but you need to have NK has secondary weapon.
Also: speaking about knives we are obviously speaking about minscouts. I d like you CCP Logibro or CCP Rattati to take a look at This
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
1542
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Posted - 2014.06.09 11:57:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Backpedaling speeds should not be slower than strafing. Should they be slower than forward movement speed? (At the moment, these two are equal).
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mr musturd
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2014.06.09 12:19:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote:I have a request and an idea. Request: do not make them OP.just no! None here wants to see everyone usino them just because they are OP. Babysteps is the way to go. IDEA: Maybe this is a stupid idea but...what if you give us the possibility to knife while we are using the primary weapon? An example: I m a minscout with combat rifle and NK. I start shooting an enemy in colse range and when I ma really close to hit I press R3 and my character uses both his knives, them it go back to his rifle. Like it was in MAG or it is in COD but you need to have NK has secondary weapon. Also: speaking about knives we are obviously speaking about minscouts. I d like you CCP Logibro or CCP Rattati to take a look at This Not a bad idea, i really like it dunno if its possible but itd be awesome |
pagl1u M
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.09 12:39:00 -
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mr musturd wrote:pagl1u M wrote:I have a request and an idea. Request: do not make them OP.just no! None here wants to see everyone usino them just because they are OP. Babysteps is the way to go. IDEA: Maybe this is a stupid idea but...what if you give us the possibility to knife while we are using the primary weapon? An example: I m a minscout with combat rifle and NK. I start shooting an enemy in colse range and when I ma really close to hit I press R3 and my character uses both his knives, them it go back to his rifle. Like it was in MAG or it is in COD but you need to have NK has secondary weapon. Also: speaking about knives we are obviously speaking about minscouts. I d like you CCP Logibro or CCP Rattati to take a look at This Not a bad idea, i really like it dunno if its possible but itd be awesome Just to be a little bit clearer, maybe for who wasnt a Mag player. Look at This video For example at 00.15. Pew Pew knife Pew Pew knife pewpew. The only difference would be that you must have NK and that we will make a double slice (both knives) instead of just one.
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