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BLOOD Ruler
The Lionheart Coalition
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Posted - 2014.07.03 13:16:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote: It will not be OP you have a high chance 69% of getting shot before dealing a blow
1. That's a pretty number you've got there, friend. Where'd you find it? 2. All things held constant, sprint charge would be OP. We don't want it. Total number of players in game good from bad,and shotgun hmg or rifle to knife,It will not be OP.However if your a good knifer you could make it op,but if your a noob at it not so much.Do ya understand.
Feel the pain of my knives and the piercing pain your skull has felt to my pistol.I am the Assassin.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
2356
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Posted - 2014.07.03 13:28:00 -
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BLOOD Ruler wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote: It will not be OP you have a high chance 69% of getting shot before dealing a blow
1. That's a pretty number you've got there, friend. Where'd you find it? 2. All things held constant, sprint charge would be OP. We don't want it. Total number of players in game good from bad,and shotgun hmg or rifle to knife,It will not be OP.However if your a good knifer you could make it op,but if your a noob at it not so much.Do ya understand. :|
Shoot scout with yes...
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Spademan
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
2040
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Posted - 2014.07.03 13:41:00 -
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BLOOD Ruler wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote: It will not be OP you have a high chance 69% of getting shot before dealing a blow
1. That's a pretty number you've got there, friend. Where'd you find it? 2. All things held constant, sprint charge would be OP. We don't want it. Total number of players in game good from bad,and shotgun hmg or rifle to knife,It will not be OP.However if your a good knifer you could make it op,but if your a noob at it not so much.Do ya understand. Put it this way, if you want to sprint charge Nova Knives, let me sprint charge an Ion Pistol, Scrambler rifle and forgegun. Fair trade, no?
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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BLOOD Ruler
The Lionheart Coalition
409
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Posted - 2014.07.03 14:35:00 -
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Spademan wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote: It will not be OP you have a high chance 69% of getting shot before dealing a blow
1. That's a pretty number you've got there, friend. Where'd you find it? 2. All things held constant, sprint charge would be OP. We don't want it. Total number of players in game good from bad,and shotgun hmg or rifle to knife,It will not be OP.However if your a good knifer you could make it op,but if your a noob at it not so much.Do ya understand. Put it this way, if you want to sprint charge Nova Knives, let me sprint charge an Ion Pistol, Scrambler rifle and forgegun. Fair trade, no? I kind of want that,all weapons charge while sprinting.
Feel the pain of my knives and the piercing pain your skull has felt to my pistol.I am the Assassin.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
2359
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Posted - 2014.07.03 15:58:00 -
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I'm gonna go with "really bad idea" ... unless, of course, you have more percentages.
Shoot scout with yes...
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BLOOD Ruler
The Lionheart Coalition
410
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Posted - 2014.07.03 16:35:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:I'm gonna go with "really bad idea" ... unless, of course, you have more percentages. Ya your right,just the knives then.
Feel the pain of my knives and the piercing pain your skull has felt to my pistol.I am the Assassin.
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wiseguy12
Ancient Legion
33
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Posted - 2014.07.03 18:59:00 -
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BLOOD Ruler wrote:A real change to the nova knives is giving us the ability to sprint and charge.This will come in handy like for when you try to kill this guy,and his team seen you.Sprint will allow us to kill him fast and escape fire.Real change to the nova knives This would make nova knives a viable sidearm and less of space filler on classes.
W.I.D.O.S. when in doubt orbital strike
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
2260
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Posted - 2014.07.03 19:49:00 -
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For the love of all things holy, NO SPRINT CHARGE!!!
I would just be content to not be stuck in quick sand after I knife someone and try to switch to a cloak or some other weapon/equipment.
THAT would be much more handy and less OP than a sprint charge.
This is how a minja feels
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Orchi Aizen
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2014.07.03 21:50:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:For the love of all things holy, NO SPRINT CHARGE!!!
I would just be content to not be stuck in quick sand after I knife someone and try to switch to a cloak or some other weapon/equipment.
THAT would be much more handy and less OP than a sprint charge. No to you,but YES!! to sprint charge |
One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
2260
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Posted - 2014.07.03 22:36:00 -
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Orchi Aizen wrote:One Eyed King wrote:For the love of all things holy, NO SPRINT CHARGE!!!
I would just be content to not be stuck in quick sand after I knife someone and try to switch to a cloak or some other weapon/equipment.
THAT would be much more handy and less OP than a sprint charge. No to you,but YES!! to sprint charge Why?
So you can make NKs a weapon that takes no skill so you can stick it on a FOTM fit?
Forget that.
If you need sprint charge to be any good with knives, you shouldn't be using knives.
This is how a minja feels
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Spademan
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
2042
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Posted - 2014.07.03 22:40:00 -
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BLOOD Ruler wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:I'm gonna go with "really bad idea" ... unless, of course, you have more percentages. Ya your right,just the knives then. Sorry mate, if you want sprint charge Nova Knives, then I'm tacking the rest of the weapons on to it. It's that or no sprint charge. Honestly, I'd rather the second.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Orchi Aizen
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2014.07.03 22:59:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Orchi Aizen wrote:One Eyed King wrote:For the love of all things holy, NO SPRINT CHARGE!!!
I would just be content to not be stuck in quick sand after I knife someone and try to switch to a cloak or some other weapon/equipment.
THAT would be much more handy and less OP than a sprint charge. No to you,but YES!! to sprint charge Why? So you can make NKs a weapon that takes no skill so you can stick it on a FOTM fit? Forget that. If you need sprint charge to be any good with knives, you shouldn't be using knives. I am skilled with knives,I just want to see the animation of running and cutting a guy down. |
Orchi Aizen
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:00:00 -
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Spademan wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:I'm gonna go with "really bad idea" ... unless, of course, you have more percentages. Ya your right,just the knives then. Sorry mate, if you want sprint charge Nova Knives, then I'm tacking the rest of the weapons on to it. It's that or no sprint charge. Honestly, I'd rather the second. eh |
One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
2261
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:03:00 -
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Orchi Aizen wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Orchi Aizen wrote:One Eyed King wrote:For the love of all things holy, NO SPRINT CHARGE!!!
I would just be content to not be stuck in quick sand after I knife someone and try to switch to a cloak or some other weapon/equipment.
THAT would be much more handy and less OP than a sprint charge. No to you,but YES!! to sprint charge Why? So you can make NKs a weapon that takes no skill so you can stick it on a FOTM fit? Forget that. If you need sprint charge to be any good with knives, you shouldn't be using knives. I am skilled with knives,I just want to see the animation of running and cutting a guy down. I wouldn't mind if they took out the slow down for when you are slicing while running, but I don't think you should be able to charge on top of that.
This is how a minja feels
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Spademan
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
2045
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:04:00 -
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Orchi Aizen wrote:Spademan wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:I'm gonna go with "really bad idea" ... unless, of course, you have more percentages. Ya your right,just the knives then. Sorry mate, if you want sprint charge Nova Knives, then I'm tacking the rest of the weapons on to it. It's that or no sprint charge. Honestly, I'd rather the second. eh People want to be able to sprint charge their Nova Knives. I'm saying that if they decide to push for that, then I'll push for sprint charging Scrambler rifles, Ion pistols, forgeguns etc,
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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BLOOD Ruler
The Lionheart Coalition
416
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:04:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Orchi Aizen wrote:One Eyed King wrote:For the love of all things holy, NO SPRINT CHARGE!!!
I would just be content to not be stuck in quick sand after I knife someone and try to switch to a cloak or some other weapon/equipment.
THAT would be much more handy and less OP than a sprint charge. No to you,but YES!! to sprint charge Why? So you can make NKs a weapon that takes no skill so you can stick it on a FOTM fit? Forget that. If you need sprint charge to be any good with knives, you shouldn't be using knives. What's with you people,running while charge will not be OP.I mean come on It will still require skill mate.Shotgun has more range then the nova,so shotgun will still rein over the knives.Yeash....(whisper)dumbass
Feel the pain of my knives and the piercing pain your skull has felt to my pistol.I am the Assassin.
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Orchi Aizen
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:05:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Orchi Aizen wrote:Spademan wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:I'm gonna go with "really bad idea" ... unless, of course, you have more percentages. Ya your right,just the knives then. Sorry mate, if you want sprint charge Nova Knives, then I'm tacking the rest of the weapons on to it. It's that or no sprint charge. Honestly, I'd rather the second. eh People want to be able to sprint charge their Nova Knives. I'm saying that if they decide to push for that, then I'll push for sprint charging Scrambler rifles, Ion pistols, forgeguns etc, In the interest of fairness of course. ok I got it |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
2367
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:19:00 -
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BLOOD Ruler wrote: What's with you people
Which people?
Shoot scout with yes...
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
2262
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:39:00 -
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BLOOD Ruler wrote:What's with you people,running while charge will not be OP.I mean come on It will still require skill mate.Shotgun has more range then the nova,so shotgun will still rein over the knives.Yeash....(whisper)dumbass Maybe because we worked our said "dumb" asses off to be good at a very niche weapon, while wearing very under performing suits for many months, and we don't want see knives as FOTM.
Many people who have been knifing for awhile got into it for the challenge of it and don't want to see the role diluted with a bunch of whiners who want it to come easy. If you learn to jump charge, you don't need to sprint charge. Jump charging is a skill. Sprint charging is not.
This is how a minja feels
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BLOOD Ruler
The Lionheart Coalition
416
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:48:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote:What's with you people,running while charge will not be OP.I mean come on It will still require skill mate.Shotgun has more range then the nova,so shotgun will still rein over the knives.Yeash....(whisper)dumbass Maybe because we worked our said "dumb" asses off to be good at a very niche weapon, while wearing very under performing suits for many months, and we don't want see knives as FOTM. Many people who have been knifing for awhile got into it for the challenge of it and don't want to see the role diluted with a bunch of whiners who want it to come easy. If you learn to jump charge, you don't need to sprint charge. Jump charging is a skill. Sprint charging is not. You don't know that,and I am quite sure knives will not be very FOTM
Feel the pain of my knives and the piercing pain your skull has felt to my pistol.I am the Assassin.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
2267
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:51:00 -
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BLOOD Ruler wrote:One Eyed King wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote:What's with you people,running while charge will not be OP.I mean come on It will still require skill mate.Shotgun has more range then the nova,so shotgun will still rein over the knives.Yeash....(whisper)dumbass Maybe because we worked our said "dumb" asses off to be good at a very niche weapon, while wearing very under performing suits for many months, and we don't want see knives as FOTM. Many people who have been knifing for awhile got into it for the challenge of it and don't want to see the role diluted with a bunch of whiners who want it to come easy. If you learn to jump charge, you don't need to sprint charge. Jump charging is a skill. Sprint charging is not. You don't know that,and I am quite sure knives will not be very FOTM You are right. I don't know that, but I would rather not flirt with the possibility if it is not necessary.
This is how a minja feels
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
2368
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Posted - 2014.07.04 00:10:00 -
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BLOOD Ruler wrote: You don't know that,and I am quite sure knives will not be very FOTM
No doubt you are quite sure of many things. Just as we are quite sure you are dead wrong. LMAO
Shoot scout with yes...
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BLOOD Ruler
The Lionheart Coalition
418
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Posted - 2014.07.04 00:11:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote:One Eyed King wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote:What's with you people,running while charge will not be OP.I mean come on It will still require skill mate.Shotgun has more range then the nova,so shotgun will still rein over the knives.Yeash....(whisper)dumbass Maybe because we worked our said "dumb" asses off to be good at a very niche weapon, while wearing very under performing suits for many months, and we don't want see knives as FOTM. Many people who have been knifing for awhile got into it for the challenge of it and don't want to see the role diluted with a bunch of whiners who want it to come easy. If you learn to jump charge, you don't need to sprint charge. Jump charging is a skill. Sprint charging is not. You don't know that,and I am quite sure knives will not be very FOTM You are right. I don't know that, but I would rather not flirt with the possibility if it is not necessary. You have a point there,but I cannot agree your and my point are not truly valid till we try it out.
Feel the pain of my knives and the piercing pain your skull has felt to my pistol.I am the Assassin.
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BLOOD Ruler
The Lionheart Coalition
418
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Posted - 2014.07.04 00:12:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote: You don't know that,and I am quite sure knives will not be very FOTM
No doubt you are quite sure of many things. Just as we are quite sure you are dead wrong. LMAO No your dead wrong(said with a childish act)
Feel the pain of my knives and the piercing pain your skull has felt to my pistol.I am the Assassin.
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Kuruld Sengar
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1
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Posted - 2014.07.04 02:04:00 -
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From my experience with the knives, I agree with one eye.
*Puts on devils advocate hat*
If we can sprint charge it would make it less of a niche weapon, and there is a fotm chance. But I'm sure that once they realize that their "fotm" gets more deaths than kills (assuming they aren't nk pros) most that want fotm just to stomp would make their merry way back to sg scouts and laser/sg commandos.
Hell maybe do charge sprint for a week or weekend, and check knife stats and public opinion afterwards.
We also should consider that, as knifers, charge sprint could enforce the hit and run nature of the knives? (maybe to balance that we could add charge sprint, but increase charge time? So while sprinting it takes 4 times as long to charge or something like that?) |
Khulmach
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2014.07.05 17:40:00 -
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Kuruld Sengar wrote:From my experience with the knives, I agree with one eye.
*Puts on devils advocate hat*
If we can sprint charge it would make it less of a niche weapon, and there is a fotm chance. But I'm sure that once they realize that their "fotm" gets more deaths than kills (assuming they aren't nk pros) most that want fotm just to stomp would make their merry way back to sg scouts and laser/sg commandos.
Hell maybe do charge sprint for a week or weekend, and check knife stats and public opinion afterwards.
We also should consider that, as knifers, charge sprint could enforce the hit and run nature of the knives? (maybe to balance that we could add charge sprint, but increase charge time? So while sprinting it takes 4 times as long to charge or something like that?) Can't say I agree so I won't.Nothing is true without skill. |
Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance
1045
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Posted - 2014.07.05 20:42:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:
This thread is now about the changes I'm looking at for a later hotfix Bravo, namely increasing the range of Nova Knives from 2m and turning on aim adhesion. Timing for strikes is also on the table.
Been playing with knifes quite a bit recently, and both of the suggestions, Range and adhesion, would make knifing much MUCH easier.
As it stands now, a person can easily back away as you madly swing knifes at them, maintaining enough distance to avoid damage. Or you get dropped like a sack of potatoes.
A little extra range would help, but I think sticky knifes would make the world of difference. The worst part of knifes isn't closing the distance, but actually making contact!
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BLOOD Ruler
The Lionheart Coalition
456
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Posted - 2014.07.05 20:57:00 -
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Tebu Gan wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:
This thread is now about the changes I'm looking at for a later hotfix Bravo, namely increasing the range of Nova Knives from 2m and turning on aim adhesion. Timing for strikes is also on the table.
Been playing with knifes quite a bit recently, and both of the suggestions, Range and adhesion, would make knifing much MUCH easier. As it stands now, a person can easily back away as you madly swing knifes at them, maintaining enough distance to avoid damage. Or you get dropped like a sack of potatoes. A little extra range would help, but I think sticky knifes would make the world of difference. The worst part of knifes isn't closing the distance, but actually making contact! True....so true
Feel the pain of my knives and the piercing pain your skull has felt to my pistol.I am the Assassin.
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Orchi Aizen
Tronhadar Free Guard
28
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Posted - 2014.07.06 19:30:00 -
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I wonder how long till this gets into effect. |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
2493
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Posted - 2014.07.07 16:44:00 -
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Orchi Aizen wrote:I wonder how long till this gets into effect. Rattati suggested yesterday that they were still looking at this.
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