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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2014.06.04 23:25:00 -
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So far tonight, one of my biggest problems has been the slowdown when switching equipment after running etc.
I added 2 kincats, and its so much more noticeable when I hit that wall after knifing and trying to switch to cloak, or after sprinting and trying to switch to knives. Its quite a pain to have to crouch while chasing someone.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2014.06.05 23:18:00 -
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I would rather see a change to back up speed than aim assist. I like that the weapon as it is takes some skill. Maybe charge sprint, but even that could be OP. I don't mind having to sprint jump charge.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2014.06.06 23:03:00 -
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Hoover Damn wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Alright, so general sentiment seems to be that the change to slowdown isn't making a negative impact. I was just being overcautious, and just wanted to specifically solicit feedback in case we broke something terribly.
In other news, I might actually look into reducing backwards movement speed (it appears to be the same as forward movement speed right now). No promises, but I'll at least give it a look. Why do you people insist on retarding my regular gameplay just to make this a little closer to CoD?
How is this making it more like CoD?
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2014.06.07 20:39:00 -
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Nothi Knives?
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2014.06.08 19:17:00 -
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IgniteableAura wrote:For reference, sprint charging was in the game until they fixed it in 1.4 and knives were not OP or FOTM. Allow sprint charge only on minmitar's that have sprint speed above 10. Which means you likely have no other weapon, therefore you sacrifice a great deal of both HP and versatility just to knife.
The only tangible bonus to ishnoks is their additional damage, the difference in charge time from 1 to 0.8 is of very little use. I would say 75% of the time if you don't 1HK your target they become magical bouncing ballerinas and instablap you.
Now with the proposed changes of aim friction and additional range, it could help with follow up strikes landing on bouncing ballerinas. The increase in "strike speed" will also hopefully help to hit moving targets with charge knives. Currently you have to sprint jump charge land swipe. Something that is easily evaded if your target changes vector.
It wasn't OP then because up until 1.6 or 1.7 NKs had major hit detection issues.
I would literally stand behind a sniper fully charged, the red being completely still, let my knives fly, see the blue flash, and have no damage done.
These hit detection issues severely hindered the knives, and made the charge sprint a non issue.
At this point in time, hit detection issues are rare, and I would rather not EVER risk making knives OP, and then seeing the subsequent QQ and nerfhammer. There are plenty of ways to get around not having charged sprint, and it doesn't take too long to learn them.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2014.06.09 21:19:00 -
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Francois Sanchez wrote:Baal Omniscient wrote:Side Thought: Should Minja's have a higher walk speed in order to make up for the fact that you have to walk while your knives are charging/charged? Or simply make kincats boosting walking speed (not strafe speed though). And here is a tip for you : never walk after somebody with your knives charged except if you're super close and flanking him. Run, jump, charge your knives while in flight and land on your prey
This is why I am an advocate for not adding the sprint charge.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2014.06.23 23:30:00 -
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Will Driver wrote:
One cannot sprint backwards already, so further reducing backward speed is a resounding "no." Next thing you'll want is to be nearly invisible, oh wait ...
One can also not walk as fast backwards as one can walk forwards in any place but Dust.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2014.06.24 01:55:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Sprint while holding charge, and Thats it.
Spring charge would be OP and take a lot of the skill out of it. I am very much against it.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2014.06.24 02:52:00 -
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Khulmach wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Sprint while holding charge, and Thats it. Spring charge would be OP and take a lot of the skill out of it. I am very much against it. How will it be op the weapon must be in range and what's the difference then sprinting and sprint jump....eh eh ya you got no real reason therefor it will not even be op it will still require skill to use,because last I check you have to be at least 2m close for the knives to work.Also to top it off the hit detection is still on the fizz so it will still be hard to use it for a perfect kill.People really need to just shut up on good weapons. 
The jump and charge takes skill. I have both executed it flawlessly, and jumped over the merc and gave him an easy kill.
Giving NKs the ability to charge while sprinting takes a lot of the skill out of it. The knives are too potent to be removing too much of the skill in their use. I don't want them to go the way of the flaylock.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2014.06.27 22:27:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:If we decide not to go with sprint charge, then take away the effect that stops sprinting when you just do a quick slash, as thats very VERY frustrating
That would be nice. I once chased a guy and must have slashed 10 times. I can't remember if I ever even finished him. I just remember thinking it was the low point of my knifing career, and this was AFTER I had gained most of my skill.
Odder still, dude never even turned around. You think that if someone were knife slashing behind you rather regularly over a short period of time, one of the sounds would register and you would turn around...
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2014.07.02 20:47:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote:Looks like Rattati forgot this thread :(
Or maybe he is just focusing on other issues that need attention first, like assaults, and will come back to the thread once this is back on the table.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2014.07.03 19:49:00 -
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For the love of all things holy, NO SPRINT CHARGE!!!
I would just be content to not be stuck in quick sand after I knife someone and try to switch to a cloak or some other weapon/equipment.
THAT would be much more handy and less OP than a sprint charge.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2014.07.03 22:36:00 -
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Orchi Aizen wrote:One Eyed King wrote:For the love of all things holy, NO SPRINT CHARGE!!!
I would just be content to not be stuck in quick sand after I knife someone and try to switch to a cloak or some other weapon/equipment.
THAT would be much more handy and less OP than a sprint charge. No to you,but YES!! to sprint charge
Why?
So you can make NKs a weapon that takes no skill so you can stick it on a FOTM fit?
Forget that.
If you need sprint charge to be any good with knives, you shouldn't be using knives.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:03:00 -
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Orchi Aizen wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Orchi Aizen wrote:One Eyed King wrote:For the love of all things holy, NO SPRINT CHARGE!!!
I would just be content to not be stuck in quick sand after I knife someone and try to switch to a cloak or some other weapon/equipment.
THAT would be much more handy and less OP than a sprint charge. No to you,but YES!! to sprint charge Why? So you can make NKs a weapon that takes no skill so you can stick it on a FOTM fit? Forget that. If you need sprint charge to be any good with knives, you shouldn't be using knives. I am skilled with knives,I just want to see the animation of running and cutting a guy down.
I wouldn't mind if they took out the slow down for when you are slicing while running, but I don't think you should be able to charge on top of that.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:39:00 -
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BLOOD Ruler wrote:What's with you people,running while charge will not be OP.I mean come on It will still require skill mate.Shotgun has more range then the nova,so shotgun will still rein over the knives.Yeash....(whisper)dumbass
Maybe because we worked our said "dumb" asses off to be good at a very niche weapon, while wearing very under performing suits for many months, and we don't want see knives as FOTM.
Many people who have been knifing for awhile got into it for the challenge of it and don't want to see the role diluted with a bunch of whiners who want it to come easy. If you learn to jump charge, you don't need to sprint charge. Jump charging is a skill. Sprint charging is not.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:51:00 -
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BLOOD Ruler wrote:One Eyed King wrote:BLOOD Ruler wrote:What's with you people,running while charge will not be OP.I mean come on It will still require skill mate.Shotgun has more range then the nova,so shotgun will still rein over the knives.Yeash....(whisper)dumbass Maybe because we worked our said "dumb" asses off to be good at a very niche weapon, while wearing very under performing suits for many months, and we don't want see knives as FOTM. Many people who have been knifing for awhile got into it for the challenge of it and don't want to see the role diluted with a bunch of whiners who want it to come easy. If you learn to jump charge, you don't need to sprint charge. Jump charging is a skill. Sprint charging is not. You don't know that,and I am quite sure knives will not be very FOTM
You are right. I don't know that, but I would rather not flirt with the possibility if it is not necessary.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2014.07.10 02:02:00 -
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Khulmach wrote:mmmmm......bump
Did you read the Charlie info?
Nks are mentioned...
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