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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.05.09 13:58:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:I also want to add that we're not happy with the current balance between infantry AV and tanks, so that's one of the things we have on our list to look at for DUST 514.
You have officially replaced CCP Saberwing for favorite developer.
CCP Rouge (Crowd Control Productions - 'Neo' EVE: Legion) DUST 514
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
RISE of LEGION
141
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Posted - 2014.05.09 13:58:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:I also want to add that we're not happy with the current balance between infantry AV and tanks, so that's one of the things we have on our list to look at for DUST 514.
Thanks for that homie :3
G.L.O.R.Y solider,
Master of the Gallente Heavy
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
8203
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Posted - 2014.05.09 14:01:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:
You do, you get so upset and hostile for no apparent reason, then you get offencive with a great superiority complex.
And I mean EVERY one of you kids. You can't have a debate or discussion, or even utter a sentence without douchey comments thrown in.
The scenario of which I'm referring to was happening in an ambush, a small map in particular. There were two repping tanks and you couldn't call any other tank in to defend against them because they smote them upon calling them in at any given location.
The Hoards of AV being fired at them had no avail, and the only course of action for me being a heavy was to pull out a forge gun and join the pointless assault against them.
So yeah, I'm gonna complain about it, why? Because I want to and I can.
Edit: And I know I'm not the first person to say you guys all act like spoiled brats, so I'm not the one that isn't accustomed to receiving the truth c:
We aren't all like that. 
CCP Rouge (Crowd Control Productions - 'Neo' EVE: Legion) DUST 514
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
RISE of LEGION
142
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Posted - 2014.05.09 14:03:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:
You do, you get so upset and hostile for no apparent reason, then you get offencive with a great superiority complex.
And I mean EVERY one of you kids. You can't have a debate or discussion, or even utter a sentence without douchey comments thrown in.
The scenario of which I'm referring to was happening in an ambush, a small map in particular. There were two repping tanks and you couldn't call any other tank in to defend against them because they smote them upon calling them in at any given location.
The Hoards of AV being fired at them had no avail, and the only course of action for me being a heavy was to pull out a forge gun and join the pointless assault against them.
So yeah, I'm gonna complain about it, why? Because I want to and I can.
Edit: And I know I'm not the first person to say you guys all act like spoiled brats, so I'm not the one that isn't accustomed to receiving the truth c:
We aren't all like that.
Dude, I hate to say it, but the only interactions I have had with DNS has been bad >.>;
If there are some good guys there, you're hilariously outnumbered by the mass of pecker heads that interact with the public D:
G.L.O.R.Y solider,
Master of the Gallente Heavy
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Henrietta Unknown
Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors
Dropsuit Samurai
247
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Posted - 2014.05.09 14:13:00 -
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Testing shows I can beat everything except for a missile tank with a 2.5 mill SP copycat of the Madrugar.
Rail tanks are fair game. I have stalemates with madrugars though.
Well phooey, I never liked CCP one bit.
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Mojo XXXIII
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
411
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Posted - 2014.05.09 14:19:00 -
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You know what? I just don't care anymore.
It bothered me a couple of weeks ago, and I had hoped to see some balance adjustments between vehicles and AV but, now that we all know the game has no future, it's just not worth the hassle arguing about it.
Fix it, leave it as is, who gives a sh*t. At this point I'm just tired of repeating the same damn arguments, with the same damn people, and getting absolutely nowhere. It's become tedious.
I'll be playing something else by the time CCP gets around to doing something about it anyway (if they do at all, that is). |
Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
RISE of LEGION
142
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Posted - 2014.05.09 14:28:00 -
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Mojo XXXIII wrote:You know what? I just don't care anymore.
It bothered me a couple of weeks ago, and I had hoped to see some balance adjustments between vehicles and AV but, now that we all know the game has no future, it's just not worth the hassle arguing about it.
Fix it, leave it as is, who gives a sh*t. At this point I'm just tired of repeating the same damn arguments, with the same damn people, and getting absolutely nowhere. It's become tedious.
I'll be playing something else by the time CCP gets around to doing something about it anyway (if they do at all, that is).
I'm not saying anything... But... What you just said... Seems counter productive by typing it up... Just saying >.>
G.L.O.R.Y solider,
Master of the Gallente Heavy
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
599
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Posted - 2014.05.09 14:37:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:I also want to add that we're not happy with the current balance between infantry AV and tanks, so that's one of the things we have on our list to look at for DUST 514.
Good. I am happy to hear this for both Dust and Legion. However don't go down the Battlefield route where tanks are like paper. Unless you are going to promote real teamwork (I.e you want to survive, get some mechanics to repair) and make the tanks much cheaper.
Like I have said before,
Cheap tanks that need teamwork to survive long engagements,
Or really expensive tanks that are similar to how they are now, tanky, can get around and cause damage by themselves.
Lets be honest CCP you really pushed tanking into a single man job when you changed the way fitting turrets worked.
You gave the option to not fit turrets for passengers, which in turn really aided with fitting of a one man tank. However you never gave enough incentive to have the choice of fitting secondary and tertiary turrets.
They could have given passive bonuses, you could have made the DPS increase of the 2nd n 3rd outweigh the loss of tank... etc. |
Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
Lokun Listamenn
4365
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Posted - 2014.05.09 14:52:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:Atiim wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:
You do, you get so upset and hostile for no apparent reason, then you get offencive with a great superiority complex.
And I mean EVERY one of you kids. You can't have a debate or discussion, or even utter a sentence without douchey comments thrown in.
The scenario of which I'm referring to was happening in an ambush, a small map in particular. There were two repping tanks and you couldn't call any other tank in to defend against them because they smote them upon calling them in at any given location.
The Hoards of AV being fired at them had no avail, and the only course of action for me being a heavy was to pull out a forge gun and join the pointless assault against them.
So yeah, I'm gonna complain about it, why? Because I want to and I can.
Edit: And I know I'm not the first person to say you guys all act like spoiled brats, so I'm not the one that isn't accustomed to receiving the truth c:
We aren't all like that. Dude, I hate to say it, but the only interactions I have had with DNS has been bad >.>; If there are some good guys there, you're hilariously outnumbered by the mass of pecker heads that interact with the public D:
All because you two both are whining about the same topic instead of adapting?
Give me a break. Himiko is right.
I was hoping all the whiners would have left. I see quite a few remains.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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IceShifter Childhaspawn
DUST University
Ivy League
673
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Posted - 2014.05.09 14:55:00 -
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ITT:
The end result of pushing away unbiased discussion from the forums.
Here we have a faction conflict.
Tankers - Terrified of losing their indomitable status on the battlefield
Infantry - Terrified of DUST devolving into world of tanks.
The interesting point is the anger involved as both sides put forward their arguments. Strong emotions, such as these, usually foment from fear responses to stimuli. The infantry feeling abandoned from their place of dominance, and the Tanker fearing for theirs.
Can balance ever be achieved in a world of, what equates to, 'DOODY-HEAD' 'HE'S CHEATING!' and ' NUH-UH!!'?
The elitest attitudes and faction aligments are set.
And no f**ks were given.
It's hard to beat up hundreds of armor piercing bullets using only your face...
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Sargon Akkadi
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:01:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:I also want to add that we're not happy with the current balance between infantry AV and tanks, so that's one of the things we have on our list to look at for DUST 514.
Thanks for this information! I was really looking forward to the Fanfest announcements about the next year in DUST because announcements have been pretty sparse since 1.8. While I can look forward to the -possibility- of Legion down the road that was presented, I am still interested in what can be done to iterate on DUST in the meantime. This is the first somewhat real thing that I've heard about what's coming soon (no TM), and would really like to hear more.
Slightly more on thread topic: I was pounding on a militia soma with a proto damage mod'd FG and barely popped it over its reps. Really, I only popped it because the driver was too stubborn to run until the tank was on fire. It was a really challenging battle, especially considering the cost differential I would assume was at play. So yes, some infantryAV v. tank balance would be very welcome!
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
645
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:03:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Atiim wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:
Missile tanks will kill it. Rail tanks will kill it. More than a single forge gun or swarm launcher will, in fact, kill it.
I know you feel entitled to be able to kill everything with whatever your current fitting is, by yourself, with no help. You are however, not.
Considering how AVers give up a primary to do so, while also having to spend similar amounts of SP as other roles (including the Tanker role); yes we are indeed entitled. No, you're not. You're a peasant attempting to fight a knight in full armor with a pitchfork. Stick to the fields. You have no right whatsoever to intrude on a tank fight as a pathetic infantryman and expect equal treatment. "AV" is an emergency role that happens when a lack of tankers are present, or when your tanks have been suppressed into the red line. It is not meant to be as good as another tank.
Sadly, I suspect you are serious.
Because, that's why.
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
Lokun Listamenn
4365
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:08:00 -
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Sadly, I suspect you don't have a fighter's mentality to even say such a thing. Don't be made of fluff, be made of stone.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
645
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:08:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:I also want to add that we're not happy with the current balance between infantry AV and tanks, so that's one of the things we have on our list to look at for DUST 514.
Excellent, now if you could just do something about tankers and their constipated viewpoints.
Because, that's why.
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Harpyja
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1714
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:18:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:I also want to add that we're not happy with the current balance between infantry AV and tanks, so that's one of the things we have on our list to look at for DUST 514.
Please don't swing the nerf bat carelessly. I feel that my missile Gunnlogi is in a good place right now against infantry AV.
"By His light, and His will"
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doc lowroar
K-A-O-S theory
2
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:23:00 -
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My impression of the o.p. was a player or players are giving away free x3 mads. Due to , dust is dead , and doesn't give a care anymore . Which I think was obvious, until dev diverted topic.
"Wherever you go, there you are" -BB
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
3986
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:24:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:I also want to add that we're not happy with the current balance between infantry AV and tanks, so that's one of the things we have on our list to look at for DUST 514. Please don't swing the nerf bat carelessly. I feel that my missile Gunnlogi is in a good place right now against infantry AV.
You mean missing every shot? |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
2488
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:27:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:LtGen Shanks wrote:Thanks to the individuals who have been spamming free triple rep maddys in domination.
They're great! Huh? Triple Rep (2x Complex, 1x Enhanced) Madrugars are vulnerable to Large Missile Launcher fitted tanks due to the massive burst damage from missiles with a damage mod; lower buffer due to a lack of either a plate or hardener to absorb damage; and the damage bonus missiles get against armour. The Triple rep Madrugar works by drawing out fights where it's superiour sustained tank can help it keep going under constant moderate damage. But with the Large Missile Turret, there isn't enough time to get repairs going to keep the tank sustained, and thus it blows up. However, if you miss with enough missiles, the Madrugar can easily regain it's armour and then you might have some problems due to your long reload time, especially if you had to expose yourself to get the shot on the Madrugar in the first place. Does that explain it for you?
rails work better for this unless you have invested heavily into missle reload and even then I'd take the rail usually. |
WARxion ForDUST
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
46
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:40:00 -
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IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:ITT:
The end result of pushing away unbiased discussion from the forums.
Here we have a faction conflict.
Tankers - Terrified of losing their indomitable status on the battlefield
Infantry - Terrified of DUST devolving into world of tanks.
The interesting point is the anger involved as both sides put forward their arguments. Strong emotions, such as these, usually foment from fear responses to stimuli. The infantry feeling abandoned from their place of dominance, and the Tanker fearing for theirs.
Can balance ever be achieved in a world of, what equates to, 'DOODY-HEAD' 'HE'S CHEATING!' and ' NUH-UH!!'?
The elitest attitudes and faction aligments are set.
And no f**ks were given.
Actually ITT: people could not solo Proto TripleRep Maddys with Militia Swarm so it must be OP and should be nerfed.
To contribute something positive about the AVs... yesterday I had fun with the Militia Swarm so I put some SP into it to leave the peasant free AV suit tier. It isn't UP at all! With an ADV Swarm and a random dude with MLT right next to me we killed 3 tanks out of 4 on the field by pressing R1 and aiming up... two guys with Swarms > 3 MLT tanks.
Now lets take the same example but with Proto Swarms for both of us in ADV Minmatar Commando suits with Complex dmg mods (or any other PROPER fit) and you can take down those Proto tanks too.
Yes, I'm that desperate...
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Mojo XXXIII
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
413
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:45:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:Mojo XXXIII wrote:You know what? I just don't care anymore.
It bothered me a couple of weeks ago, and I had hoped to see some balance adjustments between vehicles and AV but, now that we all know the game has no future, it's just not worth the hassle arguing about it.
Fix it, leave it as is, who gives a sh*t. At this point I'm just tired of repeating the same damn arguments, with the same damn people, and getting absolutely nowhere. It's become tedious.
I'll be playing something else by the time CCP gets around to doing something about it anyway (if they do at all, that is). I'm not saying anything... But... What you just said... Seems counter productive by typing it up... Just saying >.>
Yeah, I had started writing a lengthy reply, but deleted it before hitting submit, and posted that instead.
Sorry, just venting a little.
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CRNWLLC
Screwy Rabbit ULC
270
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:48:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Atiim wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:
Missile tanks will kill it. Rail tanks will kill it. More than a single forge gun or swarm launcher will, in fact, kill it.
I know you feel entitled to be able to kill everything with whatever your current fitting is, by yourself, with no help. You are however, not.
Considering how AVers give up a primary to do so, while also having to spend similar amounts of SP as other roles (including the Tanker role); yes we are indeed entitled. No, you're not. You're a peasant attempting to fight a knight in full armor with a pitchfork. Stick to the fields. You have no right whatsoever to intrude on a tank fight as a pathetic infantryman and expect equal treatment. "AV" is an emergency role that happens when a lack of tankers are present, or when your tanks have been suppressed into the red line. It is not meant to be as good as another tank.
^^ Completely agree. With all the Q_Q re: FGs and SLs, I always thought the obvious and true "AV" choice was another vehicle. You know, with similar (at least much more so than compared to infantry) EHP and damage output?  |
CRNWLLC
Screwy Rabbit ULC
270
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:00:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:
Actually I'm primarily in a heavy suit. I just happen to know my role, unlike most of the scrubs who play Dust.
I'm kinda amused at your lack of rebuttal to what I said about using a forge gun. If you use a heavy then I'm going to assume you use a forge gun. Then you and know for a fact you can't kill a repping tank with just your forge gun, like you should be able to, alone. Someone has a true proto rep tank, a forge gun is pointless as throwing paper airplanes at it. It should not be that way, forge guns are an anti-armor weapon, that use to be primarily for taking down tanks. So they have infact boned the role of the forge gun with allowing supper rep tanks. No, we shouldn't be able to kill a triple rep madrugar alone. The tanker is set up specifically counter lone AV. He loses to all aggressive fits of tanking, as well as multiple AV'rs. He, in essence, becomes worthless at fighting other tanks. He's only successful at all when the enemy team is entirely incompetent. What you are suggesting is that this particular fit is removed because its a counter-fit to your unwillingness to be responsible and call in a tank to deal with him. To that I say, do your job and quit whining. If you want to win, you don't get to decide your job. You do what needs doing, or you shut the hell up and deal with the consequences.
Again, Himiko Kuronaga hits the nail on the head. The triple rep is Maddy best as an anti-infantry platform (hey, that's funny--a vehicle fit to take care of infantry that is at a marked disadvantage compared to other vehicles, much the same way AV infantry is at a similar disadvantage compared to other infantry; strange, that...) since it's quite difficult to fit a rail on it and still completely fit it without max skills. A 3x Maddy in an open area with a blaster (eg, Manu's Peak) is flippin death to infantry. Get it in a city (ie, vehicle CQC) and sneak up behind it with a rail, and *POP*, no more Maddy. Or PEs or packed AV grenades. It is role-specific!
To make it more survivable against tanks with lowish or middling skills, fit a complex light rep instead of the enhanced heavy, and a fuel injector. Still reps 400HP/S, +/- depending on skills, which is more than adequate to deal with a proto FG or SL or two, and allows you to GTFO when you find yourself under attack from a rail. |
Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
647
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:09:00 -
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WARxion ForDUST wrote:IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:ITT:
The end result of pushing away unbiased discussion from the forums.
Here we have a faction conflict.
Tankers - Terrified of losing their indomitable status on the battlefield
Infantry - Terrified of DUST devolving into world of tanks.
The interesting point is the anger involved as both sides put forward their arguments. Strong emotions, such as these, usually foment from fear responses to stimuli. The infantry feeling abandoned from their place of dominance, and the Tanker fearing for theirs.
Can balance ever be achieved in a world of, what equates to, 'DOODY-HEAD' 'HE'S CHEATING!' and ' NUH-UH!!'?
The elitest attitudes and faction aligments are set.
And no f**ks were given.
Actually ITT: people could not solo Proto TripleRep Maddys with Militia Swarm so it must be OP and should be nerfed. To contribute something positive about the AVs... yesterday I had fun with the Militia Swarm so I put some SP into it to leave the peasant free AV suit tier. It isn't UP at all! With an ADV Swarm and a random dude with MLT right next to me we killed 3 tanks out of 4 on the field by pressing R1 and aiming up... two guys with Swarms > 3 MLT tanks. Now lets take the same example but with Proto Swarms for both of us in ADV Minmatar Commando suits with Complex dmg mods (or any other PROPER fit) and you can take down those Proto tanks too.
Join the A/V UNITED channel, squad up and show us all how easy it is. I've got Prof 2 Swarms on a Min Commando and even with two other swarmers I don't see tanks blowing up. I have to use a FG or have another tank to do most of the damage for swarms to finish a tank.
Instead of replying "get good" show me how you do it. I will be waiting. If you aren't willing then I hope you understand I remain skeptical.
Because, that's why.
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danie sous
DUST BRASIL S.A
Caps and Mercs
6
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:09:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:LtGen Shanks wrote:Thanks to the individuals who have been spamming free triple rep maddys in domination.
They're great! Huh? Triple Rep (2x Complex, 1x Enhanced) Madrugars are vulnerable to Large Missile Launcher fitted tanks due to the massive burst damage from missiles with a damage mod; lower buffer due to a lack of either a plate or hardener to absorb damage; and the damage bonus missiles get against armour. The Triple rep Madrugar works by drawing out fights where it's superiour sustained tank can help it keep going under constant moderate damage. But with the Large Missile Turret, there isn't enough time to get repairs going to keep the tank sustained, and thus it blows up. However, if you miss with enough missiles, the Madrugar can easily regain it's armour and then you might have some problems due to your long reload time, especially if you had to expose yourself to get the shot on the Madrugar in the first place. Does that explain it for you?
Gimme a respec and ill use some sp for lvl 5 so ill be able to use missiles. Untill then my ultra cheap cloaky squishy shottie wielding scout is fine.
Btw, Think i took down one maddie today w a sica. The 400k isk payout was awesomeness. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
14811
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:11:00 -
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RE's end these suckers real quick without so many slap ons either, one or two instead of stack 3 the plate maddys need.
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RolyatDerTeufel
1795
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:20:00 -
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hmmmmm, I have a feeling I know the person spamming these tanks..
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
2067
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:21:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:LtGen Shanks wrote:Thanks to the individuals who have been spamming free triple rep maddys in domination.
They're great! Huh? Triple Rep (2x Complex, 1x Enhanced) Madrugars are vulnerable to Large Missile Launcher fitted tanks due to the massive burst damage from missiles with a damage mod; lower buffer due to a lack of either a plate or hardener to absorb damage; and the damage bonus missiles get against armour. The Triple rep Madrugar works by drawing out fights where it's superiour sustained tank can help it keep going under constant moderate damage. But with the Large Missile Turret, there isn't enough time to get repairs going to keep the tank sustained, and thus it blows up. However, if you miss with enough missiles, the Madrugar can easily regain it's armour and then you might have some problems due to your long reload time, especially if you had to expose yourself to get the shot on the Madrugar in the first place. Does that explain it for you? I think the point is, it's rendering everything useless but missile tanks against them. So forge guns and swarm launchers are worthless now and those who spent those hard earned skill points are a little upset. Shouldn't there be a stacking penalty? You guys made it so there is no point in armor plating, it's all about the hardeners and reps, unless you're a shield tank. I can't fit a missile turret on my madrugar anyway, so there's a personal thanks for that from me. But from what I hear, there won't be any care or attention to Dust anymore, so we're all crying in the rain really.
I almost lost a triple rep to a few people that don't come on the forums and complain about tanks, because they were smashing my tank non-stop with AV.
I don't think the people that come here are a good representation of the playerbase.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Proficiency V.
1457
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:22:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:LtGen Shanks wrote:Thanks to the individuals who have been spamming free triple rep maddys in domination.
They're great! Huh? Triple Rep (2x Complex, 1x Enhanced) Madrugars are vulnerable to Large Missile Launcher fitted tanks due to the massive burst damage from missiles with a damage mod; lower buffer due to a lack of either a plate or hardener to absorb damage; and the damage bonus missiles get against armour. The Triple rep Madrugar works by drawing out fights where it's superiour sustained tank can help it keep going under constant moderate damage. But with the Large Missile Turret, there isn't enough time to get repairs going to keep the tank sustained, and thus it blows up. However, if you miss with enough missiles, the Madrugar can easily regain it's armour and then you might have some problems due to your long reload time, especially if you had to expose yourself to get the shot on the Madrugar in the first place. Does that explain it for you?
I know what they are, I meant blues were giving them?
I'd better leave...
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Echo 1991
WarRavens
Final Resolution.
284
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:25:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:LtGen Shanks wrote:Thanks to the individuals who have been spamming free triple rep maddys in domination.
They're great! Huh? Triple Rep (2x Complex, 1x Enhanced) Madrugars are vulnerable to Large Missile Launcher fitted tanks due to the massive burst damage from missiles with a damage mod; lower buffer due to a lack of either a plate or hardener to absorb damage; and the damage bonus missiles get against armour. The Triple rep Madrugar works by drawing out fights where it's superiour sustained tank can help it keep going under constant moderate damage. But with the Large Missile Turret, there isn't enough time to get repairs going to keep the tank sustained, and thus it blows up. However, if you miss with enough missiles, the Madrugar can easily regain it's armour and then you might have some problems due to your long reload time, especially if you had to expose yourself to get the shot on the Madrugar in the first place. Does that explain it for you? I think the point is, it's rendering everything useless but missile tanks against them. So forge guns and swarm launchers are worthless now and those who spent those hard earned skill points are a little upset. Shouldn't there be a stacking penalty? You guys made it so there is no point in armor plating, it's all about the hardeners and reps, unless you're a shield tank. I can't fit a missile turret on my madrugar anyway, so there's a personal thanks for that from me. But from what I hear, there won't be any care or attention to Dust anymore, so we're all crying in the rain really. I almost lost a triple rep to a few people that don't come on the forums and complain about tanks, because they were smashing my tank non-stop with AV. I don't think the people that come here are a good representation of the playerbase.
So because you almost got killed by about 3 people it's balanced? Really? |
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:RE's end these suckers real quick without so many slap ons either, one or two instead of stack 3 the plate maddys need.
Lol, you don't know what you're talking about.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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