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Mortishai Belmont
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Posted - 2014.05.09 12:45:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:LtGen Shanks wrote:Thanks to the individuals who have been spamming free triple rep maddys in domination.
They're great! Huh? Triple Rep (2x Complex, 1x Enhanced) Madrugars are vulnerable to Large Missile Launcher fitted tanks due to the massive burst damage from missiles with a damage mod; lower buffer due to a lack of either a plate or hardener to absorb damage; and the damage bonus missiles get against armour. The Triple rep Madrugar works by drawing out fights where it's superiour sustained tank can help it keep going under constant moderate damage. But with the Large Missile Turret, there isn't enough time to get repairs going to keep the tank sustained, and thus it blows up. However, if you miss with enough missiles, the Madrugar can easily regain it's armour and then you might have some problems due to your long reload time, especially if you had to expose yourself to get the shot on the Madrugar in the first place. Does that explain it for you?
I think the point is, it's rendering everything useless but missile tanks against them. So forge guns and swarm launchers are worthless now and those who spent those hard earned skill points are a little upset. Shouldn't there be a stacking penalty?
You guys made it so there is no point in armor plating, it's all about the hardeners and reps, unless you're a shield tank.
I can't fit a missile turret on my madrugar anyway, so there's a personal thanks for that from me.
But from what I hear, there won't be any care or attention to Dust anymore, so we're all crying in the rain really.
G.L.O.R.Y solider,
Master of the Gallente Heavy
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Mortishai Belmont
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RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.05.09 13:04:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:
Missile tanks will kill it. Rail tanks will kill it. More than a single forge gun or swarm launcher will, in fact, kill it.
I know you feel entitled to be able to kill everything with whatever your current fitting is, by yourself, with no help. You are however, not.
proto forge gun, complex mods. Assault, breach, regular variants. I have emptied full clips into those tanks and not killed them, ever shot in rapid succession. You do play this game right? I'm assuming you've never used the forge gun or you have never actually ran into a proto repping tank.
I don't think a tank should just set there and take every round of what's made specifically for killing it.
AV grenades are even more pointless.
G.L.O.R.Y solider,
Master of the Gallente Heavy
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.05.09 13:08:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Atiim wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:
Missile tanks will kill it. Rail tanks will kill it. More than a single forge gun or swarm launcher will, in fact, kill it.
I know you feel entitled to be able to kill everything with whatever your current fitting is, by yourself, with no help. You are however, not.
Considering how AVers give up a primary to do so, while also having to spend similar amounts of SP as other roles (including the Tanker role); yes we are indeed entitled. No, you're not. You're a peasant attempting to fight a knight in full armor with a pitchfork. Stick to the fields. You have no right whatsoever to intrude on a tank fight as a pathetic infantryman and expect equal treatment.
Oh, I see, you're one of the people who use those rep tanks c:
That explains your completely bias disposition
G.L.O.R.Y solider,
Master of the Gallente Heavy
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.05.09 13:15:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:
Actually I'm primarily in a heavy suit. I just happen to know my role, unlike most of the scrubs who play Dust.
I'm kinda amused at your lack of rebuttal to what I said about using a forge gun. If you use a heavy then I'm going to assume you use a forge gun. Then you and know for a fact you can't kill a repping tank with just your forge gun, like you should be able to, alone.
Someone has a true proto rep tank, a forge gun is pointless as throwing paper airplanes at it. It should not be that way, forge guns are an anti-armor weapon, that use to be primarily for taking down tanks.
So they have infact boned the role of the forge gun with allowing supper rep tanks.
G.L.O.R.Y solider,
Master of the Gallente Heavy
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.05.09 13:30:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:
Actually I'm primarily in a heavy suit. I just happen to know my role, unlike most of the scrubs who play Dust.
I'm kinda amused at your lack of rebuttal to what I said about using a forge gun. If you use a heavy then I'm going to assume you use a forge gun. Then you and know for a fact you can't kill a repping tank with just your forge gun, like you should be able to, alone. Someone has a true proto rep tank, a forge gun is pointless as throwing paper airplanes at it. It should not be that way, forge guns are an anti-armor weapon, that use to be primarily for taking down tanks. So they have infact boned the role of the forge gun with allowing supper rep tanks. No, we shouldn't be able to kill a triple rep madrugar alone. The tanker is set up specifically counter lone AV. He loses to all aggressive fits of tanking, as well as multiple AV'rs. He, in essence, becomes worthless at fighting other tanks. He's only successful at all when the enemy team is entirely incompetent. What you are suggesting is that this particular fit is removed because its a counter-fit to your unwillingness to be responsible and call in a tank to deal with him. To that I say, do your job and quit whining. If you want to win, you don't get to decide your job. You do what needs doing, or you shut the hell up and deal with the consequences.
People that use rep tanks use blasters. No other Blaster fit can stand up to it.
I have actually been standing beside another person swarming and AV grenading them too, so not just relying on me by myself attacking them.
When you do get them about gone, they hit that little booster and zoom off at a 100 miles an hour like a pansy.
One question I would like you to answer though, why is it every single kid from Dirt nap has the attitude of a 16 year old drama queen on her period?
G.L.O.R.Y solider,
Master of the Gallente Heavy
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.05.09 13:51:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:
Actually I'm primarily in a heavy suit. I just happen to know my role, unlike most of the scrubs who play Dust.
I'm kinda amused at your lack of rebuttal to what I said about using a forge gun. If you use a heavy then I'm going to assume you use a forge gun. Then you and know for a fact you can't kill a repping tank with just your forge gun, like you should be able to, alone. Someone has a true proto rep tank, a forge gun is pointless as throwing paper airplanes at it. It should not be that way, forge guns are an anti-armor weapon, that use to be primarily for taking down tanks. So they have infact boned the role of the forge gun with allowing supper rep tanks. No, we shouldn't be able to kill a triple rep madrugar alone. The tanker is set up specifically counter lone AV. He loses to all aggressive fits of tanking, as well as multiple AV'rs. He, in essence, becomes worthless at fighting other tanks. He's only successful at all when the enemy team is entirely incompetent. What you are suggesting is that this particular fit is removed because its a counter-fit to your unwillingness to be responsible and call in a tank to deal with him. To that I say, do your job and quit whining. If you want to win, you don't get to decide your job. You do what needs doing, or you shut the hell up and deal with the consequences. People that use rep tanks use blasters. No other Blaster fit can stand up to it. I have actually been standing beside another person swarming and AV grenading them too, so not just relying on me by myself attacking them. When you do get them about gone, they hit that little booster and zoom off at a 100 miles an hour like a pansy. One question I would like you to answer though, why is it every single kid from Dirt nap has the attitude of a 16 year old drama queen on her period? We don't. I'm simply giving you the real answer and your sensitive 12 year old girl feelings aren't accustomed to receiving the truth. And you shouldn't be using blasters to kill tanks, for any reason, ever. The fact you even think that's an issue shows that people who can't kill tanks, such as yourself, don't have the first clue as to how to start. A player having no idea what the hell is going on is not a balance concern. It's a personal problem.
You do, you get so upset and hostile for no apparent reason, then you get offencive with a great superiority complex.
And I mean EVERY one of you kids. You can't have a debate or discussion, or even utter a sentence without douchey comments thrown in.
The scenario of which I'm referring to was happening in an ambush, a small map in particular. There were two repping tanks and you couldn't call any other tank in to defend against them because they smote them upon calling them in at any given location.
The Hoards of AV being fired at them had no avail, and the only course of action for me being a heavy was to pull out a forge gun and join the pointless assault against them.
So yeah, I'm gonna complain about it, why? Because I want to and I can.
Edit: And I know I'm not the first person to say you guys all act like spoiled brats, so I'm not the one that isn't accustomed to receiving the truth c:
G.L.O.R.Y solider,
Master of the Gallente Heavy
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.05.09 13:58:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:I also want to add that we're not happy with the current balance between infantry AV and tanks, so that's one of the things we have on our list to look at for DUST 514.
Thanks for that homie :3
G.L.O.R.Y solider,
Master of the Gallente Heavy
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Mortishai Belmont
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RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.05.09 14:03:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:
You do, you get so upset and hostile for no apparent reason, then you get offencive with a great superiority complex.
And I mean EVERY one of you kids. You can't have a debate or discussion, or even utter a sentence without douchey comments thrown in.
The scenario of which I'm referring to was happening in an ambush, a small map in particular. There were two repping tanks and you couldn't call any other tank in to defend against them because they smote them upon calling them in at any given location.
The Hoards of AV being fired at them had no avail, and the only course of action for me being a heavy was to pull out a forge gun and join the pointless assault against them.
So yeah, I'm gonna complain about it, why? Because I want to and I can.
Edit: And I know I'm not the first person to say you guys all act like spoiled brats, so I'm not the one that isn't accustomed to receiving the truth c:
We aren't all like that. 
Dude, I hate to say it, but the only interactions I have had with DNS has been bad >.>;
If there are some good guys there, you're hilariously outnumbered by the mass of pecker heads that interact with the public D:
G.L.O.R.Y solider,
Master of the Gallente Heavy
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.05.09 14:28:00 -
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Mojo XXXIII wrote:You know what? I just don't care anymore.
It bothered me a couple of weeks ago, and I had hoped to see some balance adjustments between vehicles and AV but, now that we all know the game has no future, it's just not worth the hassle arguing about it.
Fix it, leave it as is, who gives a sh*t. At this point I'm just tired of repeating the same damn arguments, with the same damn people, and getting absolutely nowhere. It's become tedious.
I'll be playing something else by the time CCP gets around to doing something about it anyway (if they do at all, that is).
I'm not saying anything... But... What you just said... Seems counter productive by typing it up... Just saying >.>
G.L.O.R.Y solider,
Master of the Gallente Heavy
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