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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.05.09 06:57:00 -
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http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/columns/experienced-points/10215-Why-the-PS4-Doesnt-Do-PS3-Games Another interesting article citing issues with the ps3's issues.
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meri jin
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.05.09 08:04:00 -
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Dear IWS or CCP, I have two really imported question and I fully understand that they cannot be answered clearly but a rough answer would mend my butt pain and probably a lot of others (I'm serous here). I fully understand that my behavior since the announcement after the presentation was awful at its bets. That is exclusively owing to my passion for Dust. And stuff I have said here.
1. Talking about Legion and how 'long' it is already in development I would like to know how (very roughly) far away is Legion anyway? Talking in mayor steps like: "beta around 2015". 2. The focus is official on the PC platform, does this mean that CCP does not keep the PS4 in back of their heads during the development? Meaning that Legion could become something that cannot be ported? Or is there a 'PS4 presents' saying: please find another solution for this, or it cannot be ported?
Would love to hear anything.
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da GAND
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.05.09 13:16:00 -
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meri jin wrote:Dear IWS or CCP, I have two really imported question and I fully understand that they cannot be answered clearly but a rough answer would mend my butt pain and probably a lot of others (I'm serous here). I fully understand that my behavior since the announcement after the presentation was awful at its bets. That is exclusively owing to my passion for Dust. And stuff I have said here. 1. Talking about Legion and how 'long' it is already in development I would like to know how (very roughly) far away is Legion anyway? Talking in mayor steps like: "beta around 2015". 2. The focus is official on the PC platform, does this mean that CCP does not keep the PS4 in back of their heads during the development? Meaning that Legion could become something that cannot be ported? Or is there a 'PS4 presents' saying: please find another solution for this, or it cannot be ported? Would love to hear anything.
At the keynote they really should've said what they though when it came to possibly porting Legion to the PS4. But it's kinda too late anyways, a lot of people were pissed and plenty of console only guys bio-massed and will remember how CCP pissed them off. And might do as much damage as possible if they decide to make a ps4 version.
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meri jin
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.05.09 13:25:00 -
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da GAND wrote:meri jin wrote:Dear IWS or CCP, I have two really imported question and I fully understand that they cannot be answered clearly but a rough answer would mend my butt pain and probably a lot of others (I'm serous here). I fully understand that my behavior since the announcement after the presentation was awful at its bets. That is exclusively owing to my passion for Dust. And stuff I have said here. 1. Talking about Legion and how 'long' it is already in development I would like to know how (very roughly) far away is Legion anyway? Talking in mayor steps like: "beta around 2015". 2. The focus is official on the PC platform, does this mean that CCP does not keep the PS4 in back of their heads during the development? Meaning that Legion could become something that cannot be ported? Or is there a 'PS4 presents' saying: please find another solution for this, or it cannot be ported? Would love to hear anything. At the keynote they really should've said what they though when it came to possibly porting Legion to the PS4. But it's kinda too late anyways, a lot of people were pissed and plenty of console only guys bio-massed and will remember how CCP pissed them off. And might do as much damage as possible if they decide to make a ps4 version.
I really don't think that this is a big threat. There are a lot of community's out there and some people like me, would like to give PJ a chance on the Ps4. I own one, and if CCP would invite people to PS4s beta i would be so damn motivated to help as much as I can. By helping I mean not white knighting the game, but more helping objective and functional on the forums or other feedback function.
R.I.P. Dust514 02 May 2014
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da GAND
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.05.09 13:56:00 -
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meri jin wrote:da GAND wrote:meri jin wrote:Dear IWS or CCP, I have two really imported question and I fully understand that they cannot be answered clearly but a rough answer would mend my butt pain and probably a lot of others (I'm serous here). I fully understand that my behavior since the announcement after the presentation was awful at its bets. That is exclusively owing to my passion for Dust. And stuff I have said here. 1. Talking about Legion and how 'long' it is already in development I would like to know how (very roughly) far away is Legion anyway? Talking in mayor steps like: "beta around 2015". 2. The focus is official on the PC platform, does this mean that CCP does not keep the PS4 in back of their heads during the development? Meaning that Legion could become something that cannot be ported? Or is there a 'PS4 presents' saying: please find another solution for this, or it cannot be ported? Would love to hear anything. At the keynote they really should've said what they though when it came to possibly porting Legion to the PS4. But it's kinda too late anyways, a lot of people were pissed and plenty of console only guys bio-massed and will remember how CCP pissed them off. And might do as much damage as possible if they decide to make a ps4 version. I really don't think that this is a big threat. There are a lot of community's out there and some people like me, would like to give PJ a chance on the Ps4. I own one, and if CCP would invite people to PS4s beta i would be so damn motivated to help as much as I can. By helping I mean not white knighting the game, but more helping objective and functional on the forums or other feedback function.
Ya it may not get to be more than then convincing their friends or people they know that CCP is a terrible company. That Legion will be pay to win, and over exaggerate their disappointment with Dust and CCP at fanfest 2014.
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.05.09 13:56:00 -
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They could have gone all the way to the PS4...
FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2014.05.09 14:51:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:They could have gone all the way to the PS4... Yeah, but they did one better. Skipped the PS4 in favor of the PC. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:35:00 -
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meri jin wrote:Dear IWS or CCP, I have two really imported question and I fully understand that they cannot be answered clearly but a rough answer would mend my butt pain and probably a lot of others (I'm serous here). I fully understand that my behavior since the announcement after the presentation was awful at its bets. That is exclusively owing to my passion for Dust. And stuff I have said here. 1. Talking about Legion and how 'long' it is already in development I would like to know how (very roughly) far away is Legion anyway? Talking in mayor steps like: "beta around 2015". 2. The focus is official on the PC platform, does this mean that CCP does not keep the PS4 in back of their heads during the development? Meaning that Legion could become something that cannot be ported? Or is there a 'PS4 presents' saying: please find another solution for this, or it cannot be ported? Would love to hear anything.
As far as we know 'Legion' was not even in development before the CPM knew about it let alone before the new EP came aboard. Which in comparison is much shorter than Dust 514's 5 year development before public on hands. Legion is excessively in prototype phase and it shows in many places including the fact that there was not a playable version available at fan fest.
As for Legion's portability; CCP is currently focusing on making a good game first. The focus will be healthy for the game I honestly think doing too much at once could cause similar launch issues for Dust 514. I mean FFXIV's reboot focused on fixing the game first before hammering it's PS4 version out of way and with it out of the way and are now refocusing on expanding the game again. Warframe had a similar mentality one platform's issues at a time their current issue of just trying to get both games in lockstep to enable cross play. There is nothing ruling out a ps4 port out; but there is also nothing confirming it at this time. It is just something we are going have to wait on a bit and find out when we get there.
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meri jin
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:30:00 -
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Thanks @ Iron Wolf Saber. So I guess we are years away from PL.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:51:00 -
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meri jin wrote:Thanks @ Iron Wolf Saber. So I guess we are years away from PL.
PL?
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Ribbons Allmark
CELESTIAL BEING keepers of peace
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:58:00 -
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DoomLead wrote:I say it comes down to knowing how to code the game i have been saying this for a while they could have either bought these assets and reskinned it for dust https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j_t_HfLSBs the developer went out of business or they could have hired this studio which was another indie to do the game for them. This is the game play we should have had plz watch this video and it was admitted by several devs that they drew inspiration from this game for those of you who think that there are a lot of fittings Ghost recon Future Soldier has 10 million different combinations granted it is just 6 on 6 on smaller way more detailed maps though however they are smaller but 3rd person requires more processing power because you have to render a player model. CCP's problem was there development team consisted of noobs why anyone thinks legion will be any better is mindboggling unless they are going to use the same engine that EVE runs on and they hire a brand new dev team not an executive producer i am talking about programmers who know how to optimize code so that there games can run on computers that aren't built to run the cry engine you have been saying this for months game looks good and was good however times gate turned out to have really shady business dealings |
meri jin
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:11:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:meri jin wrote:Thanks @ Iron Wolf Saber. So I guess we are years away from PL. PL?
Project Legion :)
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da GAND
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:34:00 -
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meri jin wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:meri jin wrote:Thanks @ Iron Wolf Saber. So I guess we are years away from PL. PL? Project Legion :), meaning that it will take a lot of time till we can finally see something significant announcements or even get our hands on it.
Maybe a year or less for the PC version and maybe two years for a ps4 version?
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meri jin
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:56:00 -
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da GAND wrote:meri jin wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:meri jin wrote:Thanks @ Iron Wolf Saber. So I guess we are years away from PL. PL? Project Legion :), meaning that it will take a lot of time till we can finally see something significant announcements or even get our hands on it. Maybe a year or less for the PC version and maybe two years for a ps4 version?
That's what I fear, a long head start for the PC.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:59:00 -
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I dont have a sharable time frame; and I have doubts in delivery time but when CCP is ready they will be ready.
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KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
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Posted - 2014.05.09 19:58:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/columns/experienced-points/10215-Why-the-PS4-Doesnt-Do-PS3-Games Another interesting article citing issues with the ps3's issues.
My lord are you really that dense, Sony is launching Playstation now a STREAMING service to play legacy games from the Sony libary noob. Please stick to CCP and PC before you speak about consoles. |
Kratek Heshan
United Colonial Empire Army Freek Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:05:00 -
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i saw the graphics on project legion its like killzone 3 only |
Phazoid
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:22:00 -
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not far at all, we all expected something like this, but leaving the consoles all together well, that was the problem
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da GAND
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:50:00 -
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Phazoid wrote:not far at all, we all expected something like this, but leaving the consoles all together well, that was the problem
We don't know yet if they are considering to not make a ps4 version at all.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:57:00 -
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KING SALASI wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/columns/experienced-points/10215-Why-the-PS4-Doesnt-Do-PS3-Games Another interesting article citing issues with the ps3's issues. My lord are you really that dense, Sony is launching Playstation now a STREAMING service to play legacy games from the Sony libary noob. Please stick to CCP and PC before you speak about consoles.
And you think you have lag issues now? Good luck with that. |
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KING SALASI
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Posted - 2014.05.09 21:44:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:KING SALASI wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/columns/experienced-points/10215-Why-the-PS4-Doesnt-Do-PS3-Games Another interesting article citing issues with the ps3's issues. My lord are you really that dense, Sony is launching Playstation now a STREAMING service to play legacy games from the Sony libary noob. Please stick to CCP and PC before you speak about consoles. And you think you have lag issues now? Good luck with that.
I never have issues with lag, it's all on your IP provider. Where i live it's outstanding and i meet the requirements. |
da GAND
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.05.09 21:47:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:KING SALASI wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/columns/experienced-points/10215-Why-the-PS4-Doesnt-Do-PS3-Games Another interesting article citing issues with the ps3's issues. My lord are you really that dense, Sony is launching Playstation now a STREAMING service to play legacy games from the Sony libary noob. Please stick to CCP and PC before you speak about consoles. And you think you have lag issues now? Good luck with that.
Lol I remember one of the vids that IGN posted on youtube the day after Sony announced Playstation Now. Was pretty damn funny.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:09:00 -
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KING SALASI wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/columns/experienced-points/10215-Why-the-PS4-Doesnt-Do-PS3-Games Another interesting article citing issues with the ps3's issues. My lord are you really that dense, Sony is launching Playstation now a STREAMING service to play legacy games from the Sony libary noob. Please stick to CCP and PC before you speak about consoles.
Streaming? What's that? All I know is greedy ISPs that throttle me down for using their rivals network services instead of theirs. I'd be lucky to play a 720p video without having to pause 3 seconds before hand.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:10:00 -
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KING SALASI wrote:Buster Friently wrote:KING SALASI wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/columns/experienced-points/10215-Why-the-PS4-Doesnt-Do-PS3-Games Another interesting article citing issues with the ps3's issues. My lord are you really that dense, Sony is launching Playstation now a STREAMING service to play legacy games from the Sony libary noob. Please stick to CCP and PC before you speak about consoles. And you think you have lag issues now? Good luck with that. I never have issues with lag, it's all on your IP provider. Where i live it's outstanding and i meet the requirements. Lag is a matter of physics. Communication isn't instant, and the farther away you are from the source, the longer it takes.
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Atikali Havendoorr
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.10 00:19:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/columns/experienced-points/10215-Why-the-PS4-Doesnt-Do-PS3-Games Another interesting article citing issues with the ps3's issues. That was actually a very good analogy of the matter.
If biomassing or quitting, add yourself to the registry https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=159832
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da GAND
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.05.10 01:46:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:KING SALASI wrote:Buster Friently wrote:KING SALASI wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/columns/experienced-points/10215-Why-the-PS4-Doesnt-Do-PS3-Games Another interesting article citing issues with the ps3's issues. My lord are you really that dense, Sony is launching Playstation now a STREAMING service to play legacy games from the Sony libary noob. Please stick to CCP and PC before you speak about consoles. And you think you have lag issues now? Good luck with that. I never have issues with lag, it's all on your IP provider. Where i live it's outstanding and i meet the requirements. Lag is a matter of physics. Communication isn't instant, and the farther away you are from the source, the longer it takes.
I thought everyone knew this
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2014.05.10 01:49:00 -
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da GAND wrote:Buster Friently wrote:KING SALASI wrote:Buster Friently wrote:KING SALASI wrote:
My lord are you really that dense, Sony is launching Playstation now a STREAMING service to play legacy games from the Sony libary noob. Please stick to CCP and PC before you speak about consoles.
And you think you have lag issues now? Good luck with that. I never have issues with lag, it's all on your IP provider. Where i live it's outstanding and i meet the requirements. Lag is a matter of physics. Communication isn't instant, and the farther away you are from the source, the longer it takes. I thought everyone knew this
I have been genuinely surprised at how little some of the forum posters here actually know. I know that makes me elitist, but I guess reality is elitist.
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da GAND
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Posted - 2014.05.10 02:39:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:KING SALASI wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/columns/experienced-points/10215-Why-the-PS4-Doesnt-Do-PS3-Games Another interesting article citing issues with the ps3's issues. My lord are you really that dense, Sony is launching Playstation now a STREAMING service to play legacy games from the Sony libary noob. Please stick to CCP and PC before you speak about consoles. Streaming? What's that? All I know is greedy ISPs that throttle me down for using their rivals network services instead of theirs. I'd be lucky to play a 720p video without having to pause 3 seconds before hand.
Gonna get worse for me in the US with Net Neutrality laws being removed.
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da GAND
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Posted - 2014.05.11 01:26:00 -
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Bump
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Space Marine One
Rebels New Republic INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
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Posted - 2014.05.11 01:59:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:MAG died for a reason... new content was very difficult to create at that scale. Just imagine the kind of things they had to do to make Domination work.
It was a great game though, and props to the Zipper devs for making it work. Can't expect CCP to do the same though.
They have pretty much admitted by moving to the PC instead of the PS4 that they are not console developers. Even Valkyrie started on the PC first. I think they intend to emulate the same model for Legion.
How far could they have theoretically gone on the PS3? With enough time and money, I bet pretty far. How far could they have practically gone on the PS3? Clearly not much further.
no MAG because of player base fragmentation created by the expansion zipper release for the game dividing those who brought all maps and game modes and those who buy some of those maps and modes and those who didn't buy any. since those can't interact with other thus the game suffer a slow death. that combine with Zipper moving on into socom since they did have plan to support MAG for more than 2 years eventually kill the game. bottom line Zipper made mag as game. once they done with they move to the next project and not as platform where they laser focus for the next 5 to 10 years |
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