In terms of generic lobby shooter? Probably more.
In terms of what I think I see as the initial Developer's vision of Dust (through archived devblogs), probably not much. It comes down to how easy it would be to network between the client and tranquility. The lag during the fitting screen, and the lag between OB (Eve side) and OB (Dust side) has been at times quite a wait. Player to Player markets would have had a similar problem, and probably led to more "Fatal Error" issues as well.
Delivering the Sandbox experience instead of matches and lobbies would probably be too much for the PS3 to handle (especially if you want the option of larger-scaled engagements and not a few players per instance).

Not true Mag's 256 player game mode was very structured.,objective based. Again something CCP
Couldn't code for Dust, also none of the roles are defined again coding not hardware. In the end it falls on CCP
Not the PS3 limitations.

Well you see this is thing though, assuming Legion is produced using U4 there are very few real differences in programming the consoles by comparison to the PC.

Bungie have X box experience, that's more than the developers of DUST had by a long shot.

The only reason they are developing Legion on PC first is because

1) You can patch self published games when you feel like it, so if there is a bug in the client code yoh don't have to wait till the next patch window to fix it. An example would 1.4 a few days after release a mysterious sub version was released, thks probably cost CCP a lot of money to distribute this patch.

2) Patches cost money, the problem with a persistent game is that especially at the beginning there are a lot of things forever changing, moving about etc, if you are charged for each patch you make doing what CCP did with a monthly patch becomes very expensive

3) Optimization is not a primary concern, if you are developing on PC at least at the beginning you rarely need to worry about system loads, provided you leave yourself enough 'room to grow' optimization only needs to happen when you 'run out space'.

4) In house testing is easier, now instead of taking the code, loading onto a console and testing from their, it is possible to properly field test directly from the computer it was developed on, making things like glitches much easier to solve.

5) Test Servers

However like I said the changes required for a PC game developed on U4 to become a PS4 game developed on U4, are probably more tedious than they are difficult, there would be no reason for a finished project legion not to come to PS4.

No, if 1 person can code around a limitation there is no reason why with enough effort everyone else can as well. Therein if 1 person bypasses a constraint that constraint is no longer a constraint.

The PS3 is hardly a 'very limited' machine, at least in terms of hardware. The problem is the Software Architecture made it very difficult to extract the maximum power from the system.

As for MAG code being shortcutted, if MAG shortcutted it, there is no reason why DUST couldn't do the same. In terms of DUST it is limited more by the developers lack of familiarity with the system, than the physical limitations of the hardware.

I'm gonna disagree with you there, like I said the underlying software architecture made it difficult to get maximum power from the hardware, but I have first hand experienced the power the PS3 hardware still possess.

However if you want to look at age, or more specifically aging, the PS3 is one of the longest running iterations of an electronic product in existence. When it was released it broke the standard power curve of being exponentially better than its predecessor, it practically knocked the PS2 out of the park.

Also I'd like you try and run The Last of Us on a 360, it wouldn't cope, yet the PS3 takes it in its, stride.

Pretty much, it's not that's limited, the Apollo Landing Craft was a limited computer.
It's more that is outclassed.

Some vehicles still run very well, sometimes even better on a carboretuer than fuel injection.
But as vehicles get faster, you get diminishing returns, not because it's limited, but because it is outdated.

When you talk about computers, very few are limited in their potential nowadays. As for my statement concerning The Last of Us, considering the 2 consoles were released roughly the same time with similar technology, the fact it still has more juice than an Xbox 360 is an ode to it's 'limited' hardware

Okay, so one company is attempting it with three very similar games (basically the same genre - vehicular warfare - with the only real difference being the types of vehicles).

Not exactly the same thing as CCP is attempting, with two completely different genres, with actions in each significantly affecting the other, with an extensive shared economy between them.

I do applaud CCP's desire to be innovative, especially in a market saturated with copy/paste franchises like COD.

I will always support and encourage any attempt to "break the mould" and try do things bigger and better, which is why I support games like MAG and Dust but, after seeing how CCP handled Dust's development, I'm just not convinced that they're up to the task.

I HOPE the prove me wrong, but I just don't BELIEVE that they will.

Just to interject here....

Out of all of the developers for all time on the Playstations throughout the years, Konami (KECJ) I think are one of the few companies to truly understand the nuances of the Playstations architecture over the years.

On each system, the Metal Gear Solid games have always been a cut above the rest in terms of graphics, frame rates and basically what they were able to do. This is not only my opinion but also a well discussed topic throughout the gaming world.

Not many dev teams have the time nor the experience with the Playstation to achieve that sort of feat.

Moving to the PC platform should be a lot easier for CCP. They have worked on the PC for over ten years. Granted they have been working with EVE and not an FPS however the Unreal engines have been worked on by many many developers so I imagine getting the people with the right skills is a lot easier comparatively.

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I also believe this is why the new gen consoles are now running tech more comparable with the PC now as devs can make a game for one platform and easily adapt it to others.

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Yes I am a MGS fan so I might be a little bias :P

The only limitation here is CCPs way of doing things -- lowest possible cost.



User market and joined economy would be a thin client over Eve backend, but obviously it was too much work, so that was not done Eve side.

Having matches with more than 16x16 was done before, it's engine limitation, not PS3. Obviously working on lighting code was more important than having bigger matches.

Adding content like weapons and vehicles is not dependent on consoles power, just nobody had time to create the content.



It's also not possible to have trees on playstation, silly kids, Battlefield is just wrong, don't listen to that game.

They could have gone all the way to the PS4...

My lord are you really that dense, Sony is launching Playstation now a STREAMING service to play legacy games from the Sony libary noob. Please stick to CCP and PC before you speak about consoles.

I never have issues with lag, it's all on your IP provider. Where i live it's outstanding and i meet the requirements.

I thought everyone knew this