Their inability to program for the PS3, no offense to them, but it's the truth. You look at the people who published those kinda games and it's dug in console developers, who have had a large amount of experience pushing consoles to their limit even in the early stages.

CCP has pretty much only exclusively programmed on PC (Dust excluded) and as such they just don't know how to do it.
However with PS4 it will be a lot easier to repurpose legion, after it has been beta tested and deemed ready to go.

Dust has something that none of those other games have, something that adds a f*ck ton of overhead - items, thousands of them.

Think about it, a unique selection of thousands of different items arranged in one of millions of configurations that affect your suit, one of hundreds, in slightly different ways depending on your exact configuration of skill points. All that stuff needs to be tracked, stored in memory and applied during battles - no other console game comes close in that respect.

It's not the hardware it's CCP, they can't code for the PS3.
Eve is point and click style MMO, that's what CCP is good at..

No disrespect but console game FPS is way out of thier league.

Destiny is going to be on PS3. That is all that needs to be said.

Look at destiny, the version on the ps3 is not a dumbed down version of next gen. It will have all the same content as the ps4, but it won't be as pretty. Bungie conferred this.

Just to interject here....

Out of all of the developers for all time on the Playstations throughout the years, Konami (KECJ) I think are one of the few companies to truly understand the nuances of the Playstations architecture over the years.

On each system, the Metal Gear Solid games have always been a cut above the rest in terms of graphics, frame rates and basically what they were able to do. This is not only my opinion but also a well discussed topic throughout the gaming world.

Not many dev teams have the time nor the experience with the Playstation to achieve that sort of feat.

Moving to the PC platform should be a lot easier for CCP. They have worked on the PC for over ten years. Granted they have been working with EVE and not an FPS however the Unreal engines have been worked on by many many developers so I imagine getting the people with the right skills is a lot easier comparatively.

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I also believe this is why the new gen consoles are now running tech more comparable with the PC now as devs can make a game for one platform and easily adapt it to others.

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Yes I am a MGS fan so I might be a little bias :P

Bethesda actually had a reason in that character save files grew too large, in fact my Skyrim file grew to 22mg and the game just could not run.

ZIPPER knew how to regionalize players, and the did not try to "carry" high latency players as CCP does.

CCP's model/method is broken and a PC cannot fix latency. Adding programming schemes that penalise players with good internet connections to allow bad connections is just plain stupid.

See that's the thing CCP doesn't want to spend a dime more developing for Dust.
They want to move in and abandon the game.

99% of ccps player base isn't in dust.........

If you think this cute little dust fiasco will even matter a year from now then you are very deluded.

Again, dust makes up about 1-2% of ccps player base. Day one of legion will literally be about 10 times+ more successful that this pos generic fps that has some eve lore in it.

Eve legion for the win, git gud scrubs.

I'll be playing dust until it dies though.

When I play its just scouts 514 and its just boring as fk but my some of my corp buddies will be coming to legion and some of us play eve, we'll be in all 3 games until/if dust dies but they have a fairly long bit left on their contract with Sony.

If anyone wants to join Kleenex then feel free. We are not going anywhere.

It will matter if they try to develop for a console. Gamers don't forget when a
Dev/Publisher screws them over. Just ask EA :)

Bought by EA specifically for that game to compete against Eve Online...

But I bought aurum through choice and had no issue with it either. The only issue I have is bpos but Im not going to cry over pocket change.

So the really really real proper answer is who the fk knows.

They wasted too much time trying to get a decent framerate, Unreal is a horrible engine for ps3. It was a horrible waste of developer manhours trying to make Dust more open world on ps3, It could possibly have evolved more as a lobby shooter but there was way too much compromise with the ps3, too much work developing for the system and too little developing for the world.

Please do not spread rumors; current intention is to transfer as much as legion would allow for.

MS rejected because CCP wanted to have cross play and their own servers.

Dear IWS or CCP, I have two really imported question and I fully understand that they cannot be answered clearly but a rough answer would mend my butt pain and probably a lot of others (I'm serous here). I fully understand that my behavior since the announcement after the presentation was awful at its bets. That is exclusively owing to my passion for Dust. And stuff I have said here.

1. Talking about Legion and how 'long' it is already in development I would like to know how (very roughly) far away is Legion anyway? Talking in mayor steps like: "beta around 2015".
2. The focus is official on the PC platform, does this mean that CCP does not keep the PS4 in back of their heads during the development? Meaning that Legion could become something that cannot be ported? Or is there a 'PS4 presents' saying: please find another solution for this, or it cannot be ported?

Would love to hear anything.

I really don't think that this is a big threat. There are a lot of community's out there and some people like me, would like to give PJ a chance on the Ps4. I own one, and if CCP would invite people to PS4s beta i would be so damn motivated to help as much as I can. By helping I mean not white knighting the game, but more helping objective and functional on the forums or other feedback function.

Project Legion :), meaning that it will take a lot of time till we can finally see something significant announcements or even get our hands on it.

not far at all, we all expected something like this, but leaving the consoles all together well, that was the problem

And you think you have lag issues now? Good luck with that.

Lag is a matter of physics. Communication isn't instant, and the farther away you are from the source, the longer it takes.

Streaming? What's that? All I know is greedy ISPs that throttle me down for using their rivals network services instead of theirs. I'd be lucky to play a 720p video without having to pause 3 seconds before hand.

no MAG because of player base fragmentation created by the expansion zipper release for the game dividing those who brought all maps and game modes and those who buy some of those maps and modes and those who didn't buy any. since those can't interact with other thus the game suffer a slow death. that combine with Zipper moving on into socom since they did have plan to support MAG for more than 2 years eventually kill the game. bottom line Zipper made mag as game. once they done with they move to the next project and not as platform where they laser focus for the next 5 to 10 years

Sounds oddly familiar.. almost like the exact mold CCP is following in.

Listen, Mag, a game 2-3 years older than Dust was able to do more with the PS3 using much less mature development tools.

We know the PS3 can handle 128 v 128 (so why couldn't CCP do just freaking 24 v 24).

We know the PS3 can handle much bigger and more detailed maps with trees.

We know the PS3 can do both of those things while suffering less performance problems than CCP managed with Dust.

The problem wasn't the PS3, the problem is developing a game in china.

Holy crap that is an amazing point... freaking Destiny, a game that just sh-ts all over Dust in ever department, is coming to the PS3.

LOL, check and mate.

Dust's problem development wise wise they didn't know how to optimize for the cell. The cell has six different processors and each processor controls six different functions. For instance there is one for artificial intelligence one for texture is one for rendering and so on and so forth this allows for module arity and loose coupling when programming. The cell is actually more advanced than almost any other processor out there. However if you do not have the experience working with it you will make a completely buggy game like dust. So the argument about the ps3 not being capable is complete BS. Because it was manufactured to be a processor that takes object orientated programming to the next level. As was seen in the orange hearted series which I believe are the only games to actually harness the Cell processor to its fullest capabilities. CCP should have just recreated the carbon engine to work for the Cell processor I do understand that creating an engine or altering an engine is a long process. I do hope they use the carbon engine for legion even though I will not be playing it

Well I have been doing it using MAG, BF3, hell even GTA V has more technically impressive multiplier than CCP's effort. Sh-t in Sh-t out I guess.

Also something to think about Titanfal is out on the xbox 360. I forget if the 360 was better technically than the ps3 but they are very similar.
So a game with online play 8v8 matches great graphics and parkour like there is no tommorow is totally possible on the 360.
So this was not done with dust because CCP created dust is really the reason.

Excuse me, sir. Why are you bumping?