I got two things from this.

So many people are begging this guy to stay. Wanting to help, hell, I'll squad with him if he's a morning guy. Give him tips in what I do.
Still, wanting him to stay, knowing Jes a low leveled character and willing to hand over fist ISK to give him a way to not have to worry on income, but his build.

The other part I got over this is how much of a bastards we can be in this game. Kinda cool, really just makes us jerks. Maybe I'm too soft.

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cool stuff like Mtacs and jets? Esports arena where eve players can bet money on matches?

Since you are here Saberwing, we would like to see a dev blog outlining the 'behind the scenes' changes you are making, we wanna know that what you as CCP are saying is indeed happening.

Also a blog actually introducing rouge to our community, where he hopes to push the game etc.
He is a big player and we want to actually have formal full blown introduction.

Since you are here Saberwing, we would like to see a dev blog outlining the 'behind the scenes' changes you are making, we wanna know that what you as CCP are saying is indeed happening.

Also a blog actually introducing rouge to our community, where he hopes to push the game etc.
He is a big player and we want to actually have formal full blown introduction.

Hey there. Glad to have you with us, even if it is a somewhat sadistic experience for you at the moment

I don't agree with the notion that we purposefully make the New Player Experience daunting due to New Eden "being a harsh place". Yes, that is true of the EVE Universe. But there is a balance to be had, and we want to make the game accessible to newbies.

A better NPE is something we're taking very seriously, and while I can't share anything with you just at the moment just know that there is currently work being done on improving this.

If you ever see me in game, feel free to send me a message or shoot me in the face.

Yes, this is cool stuff, but I'd say a little off the mark when compared to addressing some of the core issues highlighted in this thread.


;) Come to the dark side

Hey there. Glad to have you with us, even if it is a somewhat sadistic experience for you at the moment

I don't agree with the notion that we purposefully make the New Player Experience daunting due to New Eden "being a harsh place". Yes, that is true of the EVE Universe. But there is a balance to be had, and we want to make the game accessible to newbies.

A better NPE is something we're taking very seriously, and while I can't share anything with you just at the moment just know that there is currently work being done on improving this.

If you ever see me in game, feel free to send me a message or shoot me in the face.

PvE confirmed for fanfest 2014.

Hey there. Glad to have you with us, even if it is a somewhat sadistic experience for you at the moment

I don't agree with the notion that we purposefully make the New Player Experience daunting due to New Eden "being a harsh place". Yes, that is true of the EVE Universe. But there is a balance to be had, and we want to make the game accessible to newbies.

A better NPE is something we're taking very seriously, and while I can't share anything with you just at the moment just know that there is currently work being done on improving this.

If you ever see me in game, feel free to send me a message or shoot me in the face.

Seriously though, what do you expect? Youre going to say this was completely unpredictable? PC corps get free ISK for absolutely nothing, and then use that ISK to run proto fits in Public Matches.

How do you expect new players to compete against vets who have access to the top tier equipment and an unlimited ISK supply to fund it?

Equipment costs is supposed to be part of balance. But you let a bunch of players get free ISK to not worry about their equipment costs. So your whole idea of balance goes out the window.

Read how many times he wrote "I logged off frustrated". Now go ahead and ask him how much AUR he intends to buy.

;) Come to the dark side

See what you did CCP???


Build a better new player experience! This is why your game will not grow. You need a way to keep new players who come to the game.

I agree, but I think the 2nd tier academy should be optional with a cap more like 3-5 mill sp. The cap should be high enough that you can field a decent fit when you graduate, but low enough so those close to hitting it aren't stomping the newest players in the pool. having a higher cap also creates a larger pool of players so the matchmaker can field full teams and keep the wait times reasonable.

The first tier academy should be very short so people have a bubble to play against other players learning the controls, and figure out the very basics of the game for the first few matches. Ideally this would be replaced by a real gameplay tutorial with a story and some scripted action to set the stage for the game and introduce the fundamental gameplay concepts.

Having been here since forever, here's my advice: (It's different than most)
First:

Get shield and armor upgrades to 3 each before anything else.

This gives you 15% more shield and armor base and is quick.
Second:

Get operation to 3 in whatever gun you like

Third:

Get lvl 1 in whatever suit you want, I recommend an actual suit such as assault, logi, sentinel, commando as these are cheaper than their base counterparts.

Fourth:

Get basic level of your tanking modules (shield and armor plates/extenders and reppers)

Fifth:

Get shield and armour upgrades to 4 each

Get shield extender/armor plates to 3 for adv level modules

Lastly:

Get electronics and engineering up as needed to allow you to fit basic/militia suits with basic weapons.

If you skill that way and run with a squad of a couple people you enjoy playing with the game will be much more enjoyable. This is also probably the most benefit you can get from early sp. Don't bother with level 5 of most any skill for quite some time, in your first couple months you'll be better served by getting things to lvl 3 as you'll get 60% of the bonus for only a small fraction of the cost.
Run basic suits with basic stuff on them and focus on the passive skills like armor and shield upgrades, weapon operation etc.
Once you have a basic suit with basic mods and adv hp mods for your tanking type, try to get basic level of more of the things you use like equipment or sidearms etc. You'll gain a lot in the way of playstyle choices with little investment and from there you can gradually bulk up where needed. If you really like your weapon you can further invest in passive benefits to it such as prof. ammo or reload. If you feel like you die when you just barely poke out of cover then prioritize hp mods and skills. If you want to be utility and move about the battlefield helping out, go for movement modules in dropsuit upgrades and get hacking mods/skill.

Balance sp investment vs. reward and remind yourself that the benefit of better weapons compared to their cost really isn't worth it until you have the passive skills and fitting to extend your alive time.

Lastly, rule of thumb, use a weapon one tier below your suit type. This helps with going isk positive immensely.

Day one: First game was incredibly fun. Player academy put me up against people in the same gear i was wearing and my skill showed. First person shooters give people with some relative skill a good time. 44/9 out the door of the academy and to the bears. Played another six games and went to ask questions on the forums. Was dirrected to find a corp and also to "get gud".

Day two: Joined a corp. Played a few games with them and had a relatively better time in general. Corp logged off after a few matches that we were able to play and I was left solo. So after a few games of getting the **** kicked out of me I said **** it and logged off. I dont need to beat my head into a wall.

Day three: Learned to fly a dropship! I took to these things rather well and have been complimented several times on the way I fly them. However I still lost quite a few ships to av rail tanks sitting back nowhere to be seen. Lost most of my isk this way despite having fun flying around the maps. No points to speak of from flying these ships however as nobody will stay in the guns and I dont have access to anything more advanced than gorgons and vipers.

Day four: met nyan san...all ******* day...Quit out after an hour of playing feeling like I had been barred from the game.

Day five: specced into advanced combat rifles. Still forced to play with lower tier rifles due to cost per fit and lack of steady income in game due to player lockout from even pub matches.

Day six: Realised most of my sp investment was somewhat pointless. Rather depressed about the game in general

Day seven: Learned that I dont like tanks. Or heavies...or anything with over 600 armor in general. Finally hit weekly sp cap.

Start of week two: Swapped my tank modules out for recharge things. Same time until death but could actually pop in and out of cover to at least defend an objective. Cant find squad to play with.

week two day two: find out that the rdv driver is an *******. He drops my dropships three times in a match from at least 50 meters up, killing them each time on impact...then when i get one in the air, comes in carrying another vehicle for someone else and swats me out of the sky. I take his plate number and intend on breaking his ship at some point. Stomped by better gear all day long. Managed to get a few kills here and there. K/d has dropped below levels that are acceptable to me.

Week two day three: log on and notice I dont have enough isk to restock my ten suits i keep in stock. Remember the night before and try and run free kits to get some isk. First three matches are against queue synced corps. Constantly stomped in the face over and over. Log off highly frustrated.

Week two day four: Finally get in a squad with a few players. Have three wonderful games where I was able to support my team with my commando. Got to rep some people. Made enough isk to finish out refits. Squad dispersed after a few matches. Proceeded to get my ass kicked and sent hatemail from teammates telling me to get better. Funny, I was top of the endgame report on that team...400 points total. Yay...

Week two day five: Decided to try tanks for a little while. Rdv driver dropped my tank on the roof of some building...got there after a friendly took it and drove off. Proceeded to run into combat without vehicle and just let the ****** have the vehicle. See my vehicle explode...die a little inside.

Week two day six: Get spawnkilled in the deployment less than 20 seconds into the match by a dropship running xt1 missiles. Wonder how he got there that quickly. This set the tone for the day. Cant find a squad most of the day. Ended up quitting very early, the rest of my experience playing out that this game just doesnt want me in it.

Final day of two weeks: Spec into level 4 combat rifles and gain access to assault combat rifle. Load up a fit with the rifle and see what the thing is all about. First game I got one kill then proceeded to die 5 times in a row without my weapon fireing for some reason despite seeing the animation. Lost money. Tried again and got a few more kills, no support and still lost money. Final match, every player on my team was afking behind our deployment zone running in circles inside the ship with me and a single squad mate out fighting 3 tanks and a boatload of prototype mercs. Most were heavies. No chance to push past the line whatso ever.

The game has barred me pretty much entirely from playing and doesnt seem to get any better. To those that got here early enough to not have to deal with the **** im seeing and feeling every match that i play, your lucky. To those that are feeling the same that i am, go throw things at ccp buildings. (dont actually do that.)

To everyone else, good game...or not...this game doesnt seem to be anyway.

Joined oceania servers and ran into the same thing...

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Why not map out actual progress on a roadmap for commentary instead of hiding in the bunker and unleashing it all of a sudden with zero consultation to find your changes, like so many others, are flawed or just generally don't actually address the problem.

Secret = stupid.