Judge is coming after your rep stacking.

People like you wont be happy until we are all runing the same fit and no variety is allowed

Not really a sandbox anymore when my sand is being chucked out of the box and im being told that i should run my vehicles this way and play with x playstyle

Pretty sure he's going after the rep stacking because at the moment, that's looking like it will quickly turn into the only viable fit and running anything else won't be an option.

Reducing the viability of the most OP think about the current state of tanking is the exact opposite of trying to reduce variety in fittings.

People like you wont be happy until we are all runing the same fit and no variety is allowed

Not really a sandbox anymore when my sand is being chucked out of the box and im being told that i should run my vehicles this way and play with x playstyle

Pretty sure he's going after the rep stacking because at the moment, that's looking like it will quickly turn into the only viable fit and running anything else won't be an option.

Reducing the viability of the most OP think about the current state of tanking is the exact opposite of trying to reduce variety in fittings.

Judge is coming after your rep stacking.

Judge is coming after your rep stacking.

Judge, 90% of the time I agree with what you say and whatever points you make, but please.. please.. Armor Repper stacking has SO many hard counters. It's the most balanced fit there's ever been for tanks.

Judge is coming after your rep stacking.

should be zero stacking in this game period. maximum, one of each mod per fit. that way, fitting something would require a brain, instead of how much hp can I stack and rep

Judge is also starting to sound like a pompous, self righteous, ass.

Seriously, you have done so may good things with your training videos and your work on balance and I respect the time you put forth to do so even if I disagree on some points because you fail on discussing and accounting for balancing issues that are harder to quantify (manuverability, etc) that are VERY apparent in high level play like PC.

But all that is a different matter. In short, please, please stop coming into threads with comments akin to "YOU will be Judged!" It just comes off as bad form. You may not give a dam but I am really saddened to see a respected and trusted member of the community start to come off as a Ass.

Judge, 90% of the time I agree with what you say and whatever points you make, but please.. please.. Armor Repper stacking has SO many hard counters. It's the most balanced fit there's ever been for tanks.

Judge, 90% of the time I agree with what you say and whatever points you make, but please.. please.. Armor Repper stacking has SO many hard counters. It's the most balanced fit there's ever been for tanks.

Which has faster regen? A repper-stacked armour tank, or a shield tank?
Which gets interrupted by damage?

They're not easier to counter than shield tanks.

Shields are meant to have the advantage in passive regen. Instead, armour can achieve a larger advantage in this area very easily.

After the hardener nerf, repper stacking is OP in comparison with hardener stacking. When people are arguing (legitimately) that hardeners are now balanced, that means reppers are currently OP. Also, shield tanks are in a good place now. Good players can use them effectively while good AV players and other tanks can take them down reliably. Armour tanks can still be OP against infantry AV weapons, which I'd say probably isn't working as intended.

My python is unharmed mostly, since it can fly all it needs to do is it 301m and im safe plus it has more freedom to escape since it can fly but tanks have to stick to certain tracks so getting to a point without getting hit is alot harder to do so you can end up using your defences to early before you even get to where you are going

I hate to say it, but recently my squad has been running with 3 commandos using advanced/prototype swarm launchers and sniper rifles. We get to areas that we can see your dropship and remove it before you get a chance to fly away or activate hardeners. The only thing at the moment that seems to live is an incubus with a heavy repairer or 2. And because we use range and AV weapons there are few instances where we get taken out.

Shield tanks are not in a good place now. They are much worse now than before the nerf.

Now my millions of SP don't count for jack **** when a 0 SP Sica can melt through my complex hardener while I can't do anything to save myself other than hope that I can run and survive a few more shots. Before I'd be able to outlast hardeners and then pop them in a single volley, but now I can't do that when my hardener doesn't allow me to absorb all of that damage while I attempt to outlast their hardener. Even my own personal skills don't account to anything anymore because of the hardener nerf.

So far, I like the new changes. I really have to plan routes and make sure I communicate to optimize survival. There is nothing better than getting four swarms and a forge fired at you and knowing that your death is a true possibility. I do like the AV ADS alliance. ATM, but the price of an ADS is still a bit high. Can we get 175,000 isk hulls? Something would be nice. Maybe 150,000 perhaps?

Basically you sit at the top of towers

If this was meant to be an insult than your words mean nothing to me. If it was suppose to be impossible to sit on a tower or on a building, or on a vehicle then CCP would have designed them where you would just slide off. Why did CCP remove the ability to place equipment on top of the MCC but not on top of buildings? Yes, some spots are BS, but when there is a nice flat building top, why not sit on it. Also, we don't need to sit on top of buildings when there are nice open but hilly terrain all over the place that we can sit in. Is it boring? it can be. Is it BS? Nope, soldiers in REAL life do it all the time, I know some of those guys. You do what you need to survive and bring victory to the war-efforts/team.

Here's what I hate about what you said. After the vehicles are nerfed you want cheaper tanks. Then when they become cheaper everyone is using them and they require another nerf and then you want them cheaper and cheaper... it becomes an endless cycle.

PUT THE TANKS BACK! Remove the hardener nerf, allow tanks to run triple stacked armor reps, allow the tanks to pack a major punch against other tanks and vehicles, but RAISE THE PRICE! CCP is worried about high SP tankers running the field. Well you know what? Let them. If they have the skills to keep their tanks alive then let them do it. But I'm reminded of (what was it?) 1.6 or 1.5 with the enforcer tanks. Hardly anyone pulled them out because they COST too much to lose. Do the same here! Why is a basic tank cheaper and more effective than Assault Dropships? Yeah, the dropships can move faster and try to duck behind cover but I've seen more than 1 overconfident pilot go down.

It's very simple. You want a cheap MLT tank? Fine, remove all but one of the slots. Sica gets a high, and Soma gets a low and leave the price tag where it is. You want a Maddie that can triple stack armor reps? Fine, make the cost of the tank 350K or more, and I know people are going to complain about the cost of the tank, well you know what? It's a F***ING TANK! It should cost more than my dropsuit, than my dropship, than my LAV. Because it's going to be able to take 3-5 times the damage! But make it costly to lose. I want to see tankers get mad at losing their ONE tank that they won't pull one out for the next 5-10 matches! This is what needs to happen!

It won't work. You can't balance on ISK. All you would do is create an elite few that could stomp with impunity.
The PC ISK farmers could still spam as many as they wanted.

As long as vehicles share the same role (infantry slaughter) as infantry, they have to be balanced 1v1 with a dropsuit. CCP is almost there now, and has but to kill stacked reppers to complete the job. Then they can reduce the price to equal the dropsuit and we will have true AV/V tiericide.

Pretty sure he's going after the rep stacking because at the moment, that's looking like it will quickly turn into the only viable fit and running anything else won't be an option.

Reducing the viability of the most OP think about the current state of tanking is the exact opposite of trying to reduce variety in fittings.