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steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2666	Posted - 2014.03.21 17:05:00 - [61] - Quote Think the internet is bad now wait till we have to deal with WW3 trash talking "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
C Saunders Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 558	Posted - 2014.03.21 17:19:00 - [62] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Think the internet is bad now wait till we have to deal with WW3 trash talking One trigger happy soldier and world war 3 could start. Its not too funny. // Fully Speced Mass Driver Expert // Closed Beta Vet // Tech Guards Sexy Beast //
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 1109	Posted - 2014.03.21 17:20:00 - [63] - Quote **** THE WEST. Especially America. They put their nose in where it does not belong. Go Russia! Granted I am sure you are far from perfect but at least you are not hypocrites like our leaders are in the west. The west complains about Russia going in to the Crimea to help their own people (Or people who would consider themselves mostly Russian or Russian bias) yet the west invades many other countries over totally false pretexts. Cough # Iraq # cough. By the way - Over 97% of voters in the Crimea voted to join Russia and now the west does not like that and is calling it illegitimate. If people voting for their own future is not democratic then what is? I love many parts about my country and what the west stands for but you cannot deny the fact that our leaders are totally corrupt and totally hypocritical. Investigate 9/11
EuroTraining Capital Acquisitions LLC 8	Posted - 2014.03.21 17:29:00 - [64] - Quote How about that missing airliner?
Paul Peacemaker Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 30	Posted - 2014.03.21 17:35:00 - [65] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: **** THE WEST. Especially America. They put their nose in where it does not belong. Go Russia! Granted I am sure you are far from perfect but at least you are not hypocrites like our leaders are in the west. The west complains about Russia going in to the Crimea to help their own people (Or people who would consider themselves mostly Russian or Russian bias) yet the west invades many other countries over totally false pretexts. Cough # Iraq # cough. By the way - Over 97% of voters in the Crimea voted to join Russia and now the west does not like that and is calling it illegitimate. If people voting for their own future is not democratic then what is? I love many parts about my country and what the west stands for but you cannot deny the fact that our leaders are totally corrupt and totally hypocritical. 97%, right? Out of... what was it? 137% total? Does not look like a bit of a lie at all, does it? I would not like to be ruled by a poor, dirty country full of alcoholics and depressed people that live in poverty and propaganda. Russia is such a filthy country, that I can't, with any logic, support them in any way at all.
Sergamon Draco Rautaleijona Top Men. 404	Posted - 2014.03.21 18:21:00 - [66] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: C Saunders wrote: ** the russians, they have no right to be in Crimea. Get stuffed idiot, you don't know what you are even talking about. For those who care to learn a bit before making braindead comments on it, here's some basic info on the situation: Crimea is part of Ukraine which used to be a part of Russia. Crimea has been a largely pro-Russian area of the Ukraine for some years now. It's not like Russia is invading Ireland or anything, they were annexing Crimea to get the Ukrainian military out of it so that Crimea could become a part of Russia again. As of right now, Putin is insisting that they have no intentions to further hassle Ukraine. On the flip side**, this action was brash and violated several international laws. Russia did something similar years ago with Georgia (the country, not the state), but I really don't recall what happened with that.... it kinda got fogged out with all of our stupid war bullshit over here in the US. Our news pretty much stopped covering it and we lost interest. Anyway, they pretty much got away with hitting Georgia. That means the international community is taking this latest action very seriously. And that is a VERY basic rundown of the situation. Now, people, please learn about the topic before you post on it.... Ok finland has been part of russian imperium, and also we have russian minority here.So if putinland sorry russia decide invade in finland bcause russian`s here want it will be ok?Or if finland decide invade karelia bcause it was rightly our`s before commies took that away from us Fck the kdr,i`m going in
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1326	Posted - 2014.03.21 18:31:00 - [67] - Quote Just to clear things up, my earlier post was simply to inform people of the situation. I personally am leaning towards the anti-Russian side of the argument, though since there was so much animosity towards Russia I felt this thread would be better suited having a middle ground explanation. Don't mistake me for taking Putin's side in all of this just because I understand his side of things. MAG ~ Raven I GÖú puppies.
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1441	Posted - 2014.03.21 18:31:00 - [68] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: **** THE WEST. Especially America. They put their nose in where it does not belong. Go Russia! Granted I am sure you are far from perfect but at least you are not hypocrites like our leaders are in the west. The west complains about Russia going in to the Crimea to help their own people (Or people who would consider themselves mostly Russian or Russian bias) yet the west invades many other countries over totally false pretexts. Cough # Iraq # cough. By the way - Over 97% of voters in the Crimea voted to join Russia and now the west does not like that and is calling it illegitimate. If people voting for their own future is not democratic then what is? I love many parts about my country and what the west stands for but you cannot deny the fact that our leaders are totally corrupt and totally hypocritical. Damned if we do and damned if we don't. People want America to intervene in world events and others want America to not intervene world events. Not just the people here but around the world. There will be people saying screw America because we're not helping or because we are. If we were to simply just isolate ourselves from the world except our straight-forward allies, people would QQ. If we would act like the world police, like we still do at times, people will QQ. --- I don't see how this affects the game btw OP "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
killer carrot top Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 97	Posted - 2014.03.21 18:40:00 - [69] - Quote I'm just laughing at this whole situation, this is bigger than Russia or Ukraine or America. I want you all to properly research this problem using non American media(due to over censor ship) I'll bet you there's alot more going on then your lead to believe
C Saunders Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 559	Posted - 2014.03.21 18:44:00 - [70] - Quote EuroTraining wrote: How about that missing airliner? The Aussies stole it! // Fully Speced Mass Driver Expert // Closed Beta Vet // Tech Guards Sexy Beast //

Free Beers Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2046	Posted - 2014.03.21 18:46:00 - [71] - Quote Obama would never create sanctions to hurt young people in russia, he needs them to sign up for obamacare Every mercs life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and died that distinguishes one from another
killer carrot top Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 97	Posted - 2014.03.21 18:48:00 - [72] - Quote Nope America stole it for another false flag attack just wait something's gonna pop off in the west and guess what another foreign country under boot for freedom lol
Shokhann Echo Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 204	Posted - 2014.03.21 18:55:00 - [73] - Quote With the Russian/Ukrainan situation getting out of hand, the only real problem CCP would have would be if the transaction from Russians to U.S currency through aurum hit a dead end with America blocking all transactions from Russians in Russia. Then CCP would have to find a way of getting around it to still make a profit while following the sanctions U.S has put. but I don't think anything major will happen unless Russian players are currently un ukrain or crimea. Like the other guy earlier in this thread said. so ofar the only alliance to get affected by this was the Russian speaking one whos players were majority or primarily in crimea. those outside wont really be affected by this. This is a war situation of Russia trying to get back its original soviet union territories back into Russia's borders, this is their attempt at making their financial situation better and more powerful than America's Void Echo Alt # 3 Back on main 3-31-14 Il be back in game within the next month or so.
Shokhann Echo Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 204	Posted - 2014.03.21 18:58:00 - [74] - Quote C Saunders wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Think the internet is bad now wait till we have to deal with WW3 trash talking One trigger happy soldier and world war 3 could start. Its not too funny. if World War 3 started, there would be no worry on Americas part because our military is voluntary, now if there was a draft enacted immediately, then we would have to worry. also china and Russia's military power could effectively invade us on our best day and we would struggle to keep dominance on the mainland. Void Echo Alt # 3 Back on main 3-31-14 Il be back in game within the next month or so.
Supernus Gigas sNk Syndicate 527	Posted - 2014.03.21 19:10:00 - [75] - Quote Oh boy, Political arguments. I'll say this before leaving this thread forever; most of you have no ***** clue what you're talking about, I'm sure some of you do, but the majority of people have no idea how geopolitics, sanctions, government, etc. work. I swear, people read a couple news articles and watch a few videos on CNN and suddenly they're spouting their opinions like they have a ***** Ph.D in geopolitics. You goddamn fools. Leaves thread forever *FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!*
Ronan Elsword Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 250	Posted - 2014.03.21 19:20:00 - [76] - Quote Bubba Brown wrote: a fun strategy i heard: start putting some of the strategic oil reserve onto the market gas prices get cheaper for everyone, and the collective price drop really hurts russia's economy (up to 10% of its gpd, which is massive) and considering how huge the SOR is, we could keep this up for 14 years, YEARS Cheaper gas prices? I'm game. Also I mostly try and stay out of these arguments/conversations because of the information gap between many of the people commenting. PvE 2014
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 771	Posted - 2014.03.21 19:24:00 - [77] - Quote Shokhann Echo wrote: C Saunders wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Think the internet is bad now wait till we have to deal with WW3 trash talking One trigger happy soldier and world war 3 could start. Its not too funny. if World War 3 started, there would be no worry on Americas part because our military is voluntary, now if there was a draft enacted immediately, then we would have to worry. also china and Russia's military power could effectively invade us on our best day and we would struggle to keep dominance on the mainland. You obviously have not seen Red Dawn. Wolverines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1443	Posted - 2014.03.21 19:35:00 - [78] - Quote Shokhann Echo wrote: C Saunders wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Think the internet is bad now wait till we have to deal with WW3 trash talking One trigger happy soldier and world war 3 could start. Its not too funny. if World War 3 started, there would be no worry on Americas part because our military is voluntary, now if there was a draft enacted immediately, then we would have to worry. also china and Russia's military power could effectively invade us on our best day and we would struggle to keep dominance on the mainland. I don't think a draft would be necessary until everything turns to poop. I believe many civilians would throw on their fatigues and even more if they feel like their freedom is threatened because 'Murica. I know I would consider it although my asthma might be a problem for them(I don't know how the screening process works). Also, I HIGHLY disagree about America struggling with fighting mainland. There's an itch that many people have been waiting to scratch, especially in the South, imo. I mean sure the average civilian wouldn't be as trained as an actual soldier but that lax on gun laws and how people really feel about defending their territory is something to consider. Let's not forget the fact that there's a surprising amount of people prepping for an invasion or doomsday scenario with bunkers, and plenty more. Then there's the guerilla warfare aspect. Oh and how fanatical we are, even with America's bad reputation. I mean, the only way I would imagine we would be critically struggling would be if we think that it's okay for them to invade us and I find that extremely unlikely. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Rowdy Railgunner Capital Acquisitions LLC 371	Posted - 2014.03.21 19:36:00 - [79] - Quote Shokhann Echo wrote: C Saunders wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Think the internet is bad now wait till we have to deal with WW3 trash talking One trigger happy soldier and world war 3 could start. Its not too funny. if World War 3 started, there would be no worry on Americas part because our military is voluntary, now if there was a draft enacted immediately, then we would have to worry. also china and Russia's military power could effectively invade us on our best day and we would struggle to keep dominance on the mainland. Considering that we have the top navy in the world, unless china and russia somehow got all of their tanks and gear across the Bering Strait without us noticing I would say good luck invading the US mainland. And then once you got here there is a gun behind every blade of grass. And I don't think the sanctions that the US is imposing right now are the kind that would effect CCP. There are no trade embargoes as of yet just freezing of liquid assets held in the US of top government officials. No land seized or the confiscation of said liquidity. Although it does raise tensions a little bit reminiscent of the cold war era, which I am not a fan of returning too. We don't need a third civil war.
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1925	Posted - 2014.03.21 19:43:00 - [80] - Quote I'm just here to shoot nerds in the face. Real world politics has no place in the game unless I'm directly involved and other people bring the topic up. The idea of taking some kind of in-game action in response to a real world politician taking hostile action is just silly. Realistically the only effect this will have is on in-game "ethnic" politics, if there even are any Dust groups based around the Russian language, or on internet connection stability for players living in that part of the world. Beyond that it isn't relevant to us.

Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 427	Posted - 2014.03.21 19:53:00 - [81] - Quote If the sh-ít realy hit the fan there will be RL war no need for dust 514 then. Lets hope the Russians stay at dust War never changes
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 772	Posted - 2014.03.21 19:54:00 - [82] - Quote Kristoff Atruin wrote: I'm just here to shoot nerds in the face. Real world politics has no place in the game unless I'm directly involved and other people bring the topic up. The idea of taking some kind of in-game action in response to a real world politician taking hostile action is just silly. Realistically the only effect this will have is on in-game "ethnic" politics, if there even are any Dust groups based around the Russian language, or on internet connection stability for players living in that part of the world. Beyond that it isn't relevant to us. You had me at "shoot nerds in the face"
Necandi Brasil DUST BRASIL S.A Proficiency V. 816	Posted - 2014.03.21 20:14:00 - [83] - Quote What about Iraq and afghanistan? Russia is just playing the politics and power game. We can't blame russian players for this and it would be really stupid to ban them from this game (since they also contribute to the numbers of players that give money to this game) This is thread should be locked ... Since it won't add anything to DUST 514 game DUST BRASIL S.A (DBSA) *DIRECTOR* We have ringers available (Contact: Sadashi or Necandi Brasil)
Soldiersaint Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 733	Posted - 2014.03.21 20:16:00 - [84] - Quote Oh i hope not I love the Russians. They are freaking beasts! Its a shame that other Americans in my state dont feel the same.
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 609	Posted - 2014.03.21 21:49:00 - [85] - Quote I doubt it will get to the point that it will have a serious impact on the player base I.e. Significant sanctions resulting in cutting of Russian or other regional groups. If it does then something has gone seriously and possibly horrifically wrong and we won't be worrying about a computer game at that stage.
Paran Tadec The Hetairoi 1994	Posted - 2014.03.21 22:12:00 - [86] - Quote Someone call Team America Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
axINVICTUSxa BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 2	Posted - 2014.03.21 22:42:00 - [87] - Quote Paul Peacemaker wrote: 97%, right? Out of... what was it? 137% total? Does not look like a bit of a lie at all, does it? I would not like to be ruled by a poor, dirty country full of alcoholics and depressed people that live in poverty and propaganda. Russia is such a filthy country, that I can't, with any logic, support them in any way at all. Have you visited my homeland in the past, Paul? No? Do not, then, insult my homeland without having first seen it. Meanwhile, having lived in both Russia and now, currently in California, perhaps I can enlighten you against what the AP, or "Associated Propaganda" has been trying to brainwash you with. And by the way, before anyone calls me out about AP being Associated Press and not Associated Propaganda, I'm trying to make a point. First of all, Paul, I do not know what tier of life you were born into, but I was born into the Russian middle class. I had a sponsored, hard-earned education and while my compatriots often spoke only two languages--Russian and English--I had the chance and did learn English, Russian, French, and German, and since then I have added Chinese and Spanish to the list. I don't know about you, but I will guess that you only read English news. I read four different sets of news, from four different nations. I CHOOSE to be educated, I CHOOSE to know what is truly going on, and I CHOOSE to SEE PAST THE PROPAGANDA the respective nations are allowing their newspresses to release. I have had the oppurtunity to graduate from MGU with honors, Please pardon me if I may sound critical of you but perhaps what draws ire against Russian people is our brutally frank attitude--if we see someone acting like an idiot, we point that out to him. But by no means am I calling you one. Instead, far from it. I feel that the term idiot is too good a term, and it would be a misnomer for you. I do see that you say, "I can't, with any logic, support them in any way at all." I can't, with any logic, support the fact that you have logic in the first place just noting your illogical statement. If that isn't paradoxical enough, what is? Here. Just a sample of Putin's speech in adress to Crimea issue. I understand you probably cannot understand Russian, otherwise I would have given you RIA's version. The translation here is good enough: http://rt.com/news/putin-address-ten-quotes-778/ This is the difference between America and Russia, as I have found out while living in California. Here is America, Americans cater to the minority despite the suffering of the majority. This is obvious through the ill-planned-fascist-attempt-at-socialism called Obamacare. In Russia, we can only be moved by the majority. That is why we help Crimea, because 60% of Crimea is Russian and that is something Putin cannot ignore. Honestly, this is a good video as well: Ukraine Nationalist Speech You probably don't understand Russian or Ukrainian, but this "Nationalist" is saying that Russians in Ukraine should die, be shot in the head, and all that jazz. Of course, our Western, "Associated Propaganda" which is trying to portray Ukraine and its Revolutionary Government as the good guys, would not publish such videos. After watching it is it any surprise that most Russian-speaking and Russian Crimeans would call to Putin for aid? It is quite simple to illustrate to you and all the Double-Standard taken here by the United Nations and US: 1) Afghanistan, Iraq, Kuwait wars "against Terrorism." Approved of by the UN. What did America want? Oil. Did we get it? Oh yes. vs. Russia enters Dagestan, Chechnya, Georgia "against Terrorism" Draws international IRE and disproval by the UN What were we after? No doubt there was economic interests in this region as well, but let us not forget that these "states" are on OUR Southern Borders. It is that much easier to cross into Southern Russia and carry out Terrorist Activity. Can America say the same about Iraq, Afghanistan, and Kuwait? Ukrainian DEMOCRATICALLY-ELECTED President Yanukovich overthrown by way of revolution and replaced. New Ukrainian Government and overthrow deemed legal, and New Ukraine is recognized by the UN. Russia gains Crimea through legal vote, deemed illegal and illegitimate by UN. What about the New Ukraine Government? Is overthrowing legitimate governments legal? No. Please note several things: Crimea given to Ukraine in 1954 by Nikita Kruschev, a UKRAINIAN-ethnic leader of the USSR. At this time it was ok, because Ukraine was part of the USSR, and the USSR answered to Moscow. But in 1991, Crimeans found themselves suddenly "Ukrainians." Couple that with live video threats and Ukrainian-nationalist speeches to get rid of Russians in Ukraine, if I lived in Crimea I would be calling out to the motherland for help as well. If you have any more of your "logic" to show me, I welcome it by all means. I know that by speaking my opinion here in America and amongst the English forums I draw the ire of all of the "international community." I welcome that. I welcome the risks that come with free speech like this. I await your response. Until then, I apologize for the hot-bloodedness of my speech and the offense it may have caused any of you who read my speech, Sincerely, Dmitri Chuikov (axINVICTUSxa) I wallow in pools of blood and wash myself anew, I throw away my ugly self in order to become something beautiful...
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 251	Posted - 2014.03.21 23:02:00 - [88] - Quote @axINVICTUSxa I thank you for your perspective. I know from many discussions with a good friend of mine from college (she is half russian half sri lankan who grew up there and now lives in Russia again) that what is reported and what is seen on the other side can be quite different. I remember many discussions when the hunt for WMD's was on and she made the case very clear how things were most likely being slanted. We also had many discussions about how she thought the US would be before she came to school over there. I know some in the American media have made similar points about Crimea but they have been drowned out by Putin is crazy / testing Obama etc rhetoric. That said - the move to just seize territory in a foreign country will always go against international law - now what the actual repercussions will be? who knows. A new Cold War era wont help anybody though imo "Shine bright like a diamond"
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2666	Posted - 2014.03.21 23:11:00 - [89] - Quote axINVICTUSxa i genuinely mean this, thanks for your view point we never get to hear the other side and their is no right in side in this and i hope it all settles down. i think its also safe that as ingame goes noone really cares enough to act on it :P "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1824	Posted - 2014.03.21 23:21:00 - [90] - Quote Kristoff Atruin wrote: This could be Putin a lot of pressure on the part of our community playing in that timezone (GÿPn+ƒpâ«n+ƒ)GÿP I see what you did there.



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