DUST Search - goodbye to our Russia players?

C Saunders wrote:

Baal Omniscient wrote:

C Saunders wrote:

**** the russians, they have no right to be in Crimea.

Get stuffed idiot, you don't know what you are even talking about.

For those who care to learn a bit before making braindead comments on it, here's some basic info on the situation:

Crimea is part of Ukraine which used to be a part of Russia. Crimea has been a largely pro-Russian area of the Ukraine for some years now. It's not like Russia is invading Ireland or anything, they were annexing Crimea to get the Ukrainian military out of it so that Crimea could become a part of Russia again. As of right now, Putin is insisting that they have no intentions to further hassle Ukraine.

On the flip side, this action was brash and violated several international laws. Russia did something similar years ago with Georgia (the country, not the state), but I really don't recall what happened with that.... it kinda got fogged out with all of our stupid war bullshit over here in the US. Our news pretty much stopped covering it and we lost interest. Anyway, they pretty much got away with hitting Georgia. That means the international community is taking this latest action very seriously.

And that is a VERY basic rundown of the situation. Now, people, please learn about the topic before you post on it....

Hi.tler invaded some countries that used to be part of Germany before WW1.

Your argument is invalid.

Oh yeah, who the hell said I was from the US. Im british. So stop giving me US examples.

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steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2660	Posted - 2014.03.21 11:37:00 - [1] - Quote It seems sanctions are kicking in now and i would like to know CCP,s stance on this i believe this is the first time any mmo company could be faceing this problem and from a political neutral view point whats going to happen here its not somthing we can pretend is not happening A sudden removal of players could quickly change the landscape. To our Russia players any thoughts i would like to hear the othersides view on this. "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 4834	Posted - 2014.03.21 11:41:00 - [2] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: It seems sanctions are kicking in now and i would like to know CCP,s stance on this i believe this is the first time any mmo company could be faceing this problem and from a political neutral view point whats going to happen here its not somthing we can pretend is not happening A sudden removal of players could quickly change the landscape. To our Russia players any thoughts i would like to hear the othersides view on this. I've honestly been wondering how this would effect EVE and Dust for quite a few years now if it ever came to pass. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1883	Posted - 2014.03.21 11:41:00 - [3] - Quote This could be Putin a lot of pressure on the part of our community playing in that timezone
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 252	Posted - 2014.03.21 11:44:00 - [4] - Quote This is a game, the crimea crisis is about politics... I don't see a connection. The only prob would be people paying over blocked credit cards...
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1883	Posted - 2014.03.21 11:46:00 - [5] - Quote It's already sort of affected Eve. There are certain groups that tend to form around languages. The shared communication and lack of options for joining other alliances makes the members very loyal, and very difficult to infiltrate. It's that degree of unity that always made it a bad idea to venture into the dronelands to poke the Russians. Recently one of the more well known Russian speaking alliances fell apart, which had a large number of Ukranians in it. It has since been denied, but initial rumor was that they split up over political arguments on their internal forums. No way to really know if it's true, but I wouldn't be surprised.
Sergamon Draco Rautaleijona Top Men. 399	Posted - 2014.03.21 11:49:00 - [6] - Quote Yep i vote yes to kick russians out Fck the kdr,i`m going in
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2661	Posted - 2014.03.21 11:50:00 - [7] - Quote Mad Syringe wrote: This is a game, the crimea crisis is about politics... I don't see a connection. The only prob would be people paying over blocked credit cards... The connect is Russia tanks flying into the Ukraine means a lot of angry players taking it out on Russia players you cant pretend their not connected if EU and US governments tell sony and ccp no business with Russia thats a huge impact in a lot of games "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 253	Posted - 2014.03.21 11:56:00 - [8] - Quote Anyway, I think war rhetorics and sanctions are not leading anywhere except more conflict. We should try to communicate more not less... But I expect the exact opposite in here, since most people seem to enjoy shooting at things, so they might enjoy seeing real world conflict without really getting the consequences for the people in Ukraine...
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 4834	Posted - 2014.03.21 11:57:00 - [9] - Quote Sergamon Draco wrote: Yep i vote yes to kick russians out Kindly get stuffed. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Meee One The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 575	Posted - 2014.03.21 12:16:00 - [10] - Quote What? You mean there's a world outside of Dust/EvE?!! To borrow a phrase from the amarr: You speak heresy!!! I game over like a boss.

C Saunders Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 555	Posted - 2014.03.21 12:19:00 - [11] - Quote **** the russians, they have no right to be in Crimea. // Fully Speced Mass Driver Expert // Closed Beta Vet // Tech Guards Sexy Beast //
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC 494	Posted - 2014.03.21 12:28:00 - [12] - Quote We can always impose our own economic sanctions across dust and ever on any and all known Russian players. Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 4844	Posted - 2014.03.21 12:51:00 - [13] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: We can always impose our own economic sanctions across dust and eve on any and all known Russian players. If Ccp tries to stop us they hate freedom. do you hate freedom Ccp? Okay, that one was good for a chuckle. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1859	Posted - 2014.03.21 13:00:00 - [14] - Quote C Saunders wrote: ** the russians, they have no right to be in Crimea. Isn't that like kinda saying "** the Americans, they have no right to be in Cuba"? I mean, they have military bases there and are culturally intermingled with the Crimeans. Isn't Ukraine basically where Russian culture traces its foundations to as well? Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5268	Posted - 2014.03.21 13:03:00 - [15] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: C Saunders wrote: ** the russians, they have no right to be in Crimea. Isn't that like kinda saying " the Americans, they have no right to be in Cuba"? I mean, they have military bases there and are culturally intermingled with the Crimeans. Isn't Ukraine basically where Russian culture traces its foundations to as well? America, horrible choice to base your apologetic statement off of. 1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole** -Title Awarded by True Adamance
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1320	Posted - 2014.03.21 13:05:00 - [16] - Quote C Saunders wrote: ** the russians, they have no right to be in Crimea. Get stuffed idiot, you don't know what you are even talking about. For those who care to learn a bit before making braindead comments on it, here's some basic info on the situation: Crimea is part of Ukraine which used to be a part of Russia. Crimea has been a largely pro-Russian area of the Ukraine for some years now. It's not like Russia is invading Ireland or anything, they were annexing Crimea to get the Ukrainian military out of it so that Crimea could become a part of Russia again. As of right now, Putin is insisting that they have no intentions to further hassle Ukraine. On the flip side*, this action was brash and violated several international laws. Russia did something similar years ago with Georgia (the country, not the state), but I really don't recall what happened with that.... it kinda got fogged out with all of our stupid war bullshit over here in the US. Our news pretty much stopped covering it and we lost interest. Anyway, they pretty much got away with hitting Georgia. That means the international community is taking this latest action very seriously. And that is a VERY basic rundown of the situation. Now, people, please learn about the topic before you post on it.... MAG ~ Raven* I GÖú puppies.
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC 496	Posted - 2014.03.21 13:06:00 - [17] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: We can always impose our own economic sanctions across dust and eve on any and all known Russian players. If Ccp tries to stop us they hate freedom. do you hate freedom Ccp? Okay, that one was good for a chuckle. What do you think about Ccp? More like CCCP am I right? Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1860	Posted - 2014.03.21 13:08:00 - [18] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: C Saunders wrote: ** the russians, they have no right to be in Crimea. Isn't that like kinda saying "** the Americans, they have no right to be in Cuba"? I mean, they have military bases there and are culturally intermingled with the Crimeans. Isn't Ukraine basically where Russian culture traces its foundations to as well? America, horrible choice to base your apologetic statement off of. I know, I know, we're allowed to do what we want because America. Still, it just seems wrong to me that we can tell them what they can do with their military bases in places that are their backyard when we would never stand for another country doing the same to us. I'm not quite sure how you think I am apologizing either, I'm just playing devil's advocate. Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC 498	Posted - 2014.03.21 13:10:00 - [19] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: C Saunders wrote: ** the russians, they have no right to be in Crimea. Get stuffed idiot, you don't know what you are even talking about. For those who care to learn a bit before making braindead comments on it, here's some basic info on the situation: Crimea is part of Ukraine which used to be a part of Russia. Crimea has been a largely pro-Russian area of the Ukraine for some years now. It's not like Russia is invading Ireland or anything, they were annexing Crimea to get the Ukrainian military out of it so that Crimea could become a part of Russia again. As of right now, Putin is insisting that they have no intentions to further hassle Ukraine. On the flip side*, this action was brash and violated several international laws. Russia did something similar years ago with Georgia (the country, not the state), but I really don't recall what happened with that.... it kinda got fogged out with all of our stupid war bullshit over here in the US. Our news pretty much stopped covering it and we lost interest. Anyway, they pretty much got away with hitting Georgia. That means the international community is taking this latest action very seriously. And that is a VERY basic rundown of the situation. Now, people, please learn about the topic before you post on it.... What's the difference between invading it and invading Ireland? Ukraine is a sovereign country and has a treaty with Russia. Russia has no place in Crimea beyond what the treaty allows and Ukrainians have already been killed. It's an invasion. Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank!* *TURTLE POWER!!!*
Villanor Aquarius WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 150	Posted - 2014.03.21 13:14:00 - [20] - Quote The sanctions currently in place and the only ones likely to happen are against individuals in Russia and certain companies. Sanctions on the level of "no company may do business with Russian citizens" are not going to happen. Currently a list of people and I believe 1 bank are not allowed to conduct transactions in US Dollars. Those people are also denied visas and therefore are not allowed to travel to places controlled by those imposing the sanctions. Nobody is going anywhere due to sanctions because even the more large sweeping sanctions are far more focused at preventing Russian companies from interacting with other countries. The Russian individual having direct contact with external companies is not going to be sanctioned against and simply will not happen.

Marc Rime 312	Posted - 2014.03.21 13:24:00 - [21] - Quote Villanor Aquarius wrote: The sanctions currently in place and the only ones likely to happen are against individuals in Russia and certain companies. Sanctions on the level of "no company may do business with Russian citizens" are not going to happen. Currently a list of people and I believe 1 bank are not allowed to conduct transactions in US Dollars. Those people are also denied visas and therefore are not allowed to travel to places controlled by those imposing the sanctions. Nobody is going anywhere due to sanctions because even the more large sweeping sanctions are far more focused at preventing Russian companies from interacting with other countries. The Russian individual having direct contact with external companies is not going to be sanctioned against and simply will not happen. Was just about to point this out, you saved me the trouble, thanks ;). Also, to the OP: International sanctions tend to be decided on a government level, not by individuals or companies. There's no reason for CCP (the corporate entity) to have a stance on this matter.
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1338	Posted - 2014.03.21 13:28:00 - [22] - Quote C Saunders wrote: **** the russians, they have no right to be in Crimea. The US had no right to be in and mess with Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria... the list goes on. Russia has every right to be in Crimea. Russian majority, strong cultural ties, and the Crimeans even overwhelmingly voted to be annexed by Russia. Western propoganda is nothing but Western propoganda. Take a look at some videos of what really happened during the riots in Kiev, Ukraine. Riot police forming defensive lines while the protestors throw Molotov cocktails at them, beat them with clubs and metal poles, even threatening to run a bulldozer through one police line. They were even destroying the roads to use their bricks as projectiles to throw at the riot police. Are these protestors civilized people we want in a newly installed government? And don't forget that this was a coup d'+¬tat which is technically illegal under the UN charter and the new government is a "government of the victors," not a democratically chosen government. Russian people in Ukraine have every right to ask Russia for help. And the West has absolutely no right to tell Russia otherwise. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Bubba Brown Militaires Sans Jeux 227	Posted - 2014.03.21 13:33:00 - [23] - Quote a fun strategy i heard: start putting some of the strategic oil reserve onto the market gas prices get cheaper for everyone, and the collective price drop really hurts russia's economy (up to 10% of its gpd, which is massive) and considering how huge the SOR is, we could keep this up for 14 years, YEARS
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7594	Posted - 2014.03.21 13:41:00 - [24] - Quote OH GOD POLITICS Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2663	Posted - 2014.03.21 13:51:00 - [25] - Quote Felt the fourms needed liveing up :-P. But good points Russia inviaded crimera and beat the crap out of anyone who disagreed this is a fact, live video proof is all over the net. They could have just forced a peacefull vote but instead they moved troops in. Thats the facts not propaganda. Last time i checked the US didnt annex country's they just invaded to remove a treat. I dont blame russia for defending their intrests but their intrests pretty much bulling the rest of the world their empire building end of. But thats not the point here the point is how are Russia players going to be affected is locking any corp out of PC just because they have Russia players breaking any rules ad im sure more than one Ukraine player would love the chance. Last point ita easy to point the figure when the tanks are not on your border and nut jobs are not romming the streets threating you to vote a certain way... Or as on the guardian this morning beating up a TV presenter. "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Paul Peacemaker Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 28	Posted - 2014.03.21 13:52:00 - [26] - Quote Harpyja wrote: C Saunders wrote: ** the russians, they have no right to be in Crimea. The US had no right to be in and mess with Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria... the list goes on. Russia has every right to be in Crimea. Russian majority, strong cultural ties, and the Crimeans even overwhelmingly voted to be annexed by Russia. Western propoganda is nothing but Western propoganda. Take a look at some videos of what really happened during the riots in Kiev, Ukraine. Riot police forming defensive lines while the protestors throw Molotov cocktails at them, beat them with clubs and metal poles, even threatening to run a bulldozer through one police line. They were even destroying the roads to use their bricks as projectiles to throw at the riot police. Are these protestors civilized people we want in a newly installed government? And don't forget that this was a coup d'+¬tat which is technically illegal under the UN charter and the new government is a "government of the victors," not a democratically chosen government. Russian people in Ukraine have every right to ask Russia for help. And the West has absolutely no right to tell Russia otherwise. Well, I have read some amazing article about this. Basically, America is always trying to beat Russia one way or another. And it has a very interesting way of doing it. CIA funded Alkaida, and many other coups. You know why? Because... China. Let me explain. Syberia has some awesome resources that China needs. They are very resource dependent and they suck them up like a sponge. So America is slowly making their way towards Russia, by placing their military bases closer and closer, and trying to deny Russia anything that they can without causing a storm. Now ,every time China was close to acquiring something useful, some stuff would happen that would not allow them to get the resources. They are starting to get desperate and that is exactly what US wants - for China to start looking into Syberia, since it's so incredibly close and has ALL the stuff they need. USA was trying to get rid of Russia's power for tens of years now. Does it seem brutal? Yes. But I approve. My countryr (Poland) is close to Russia. They were always affecting my country one way or another. A lot of people don't know how crazy the russians are, how horrible. My girlfriend's grand grand mother told her an interesting story from the WWII. We were pretty much occupied by both Germany and Russia, and what that old lady said was that when Germans were coming to her farm, they would always be clean, washed, smelled good and were polite. Now, when Russians used to come to the farm, they'd be absolutely filthy, smelled like , did not even ask for permission to take anything from the farm and they were abusive. This is a good example of how the whole Russia treats other people. This country is a mess, in a huge debt and is one big mafia. Russia should never be in power of anything. They will destroy it, suck it out of all the money and profits so a couple of politicians can stuff their wallets. They were ruthless during Stalin's rule, they were ruthless before that, and they are known for stuffing their citizens throats with propaganda. Some of you have no idea how ** that country is. I wish I didn't have to live near it. We grow up reading books about Russification (occupation where we can't speak another language other than Russian, where the intelligent Polish people were often killed to try and make the country dumber), gulags, Katyn disaster and so on. They have a history of being liars, backstabbers, filthy alcoholics that HAVE TO BE STOPPED one way or another. So, even though America is doing something very mean and I do not fully approve, I think it is necessary to finally start getting rid of the evil.
C Saunders Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 556	Posted - 2014.03.21 13:52:00 - [27] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: C Saunders wrote: ** the russians, they have no right to be in Crimea. Get stuffed idiot, you don't know what you are even talking about. For those who care to learn a bit before making braindead comments on it, here's some basic info on the situation: Crimea is part of Ukraine which used to be a part of Russia. Crimea has been a largely pro-Russian area of the Ukraine for some years now. It's not like Russia is invading Ireland or anything, they were annexing Crimea to get the Ukrainian military out of it so that Crimea could become a part of Russia again. As of right now, Putin is insisting that they have no intentions to further hassle Ukraine. On the flip side**, this action was brash and violated several international laws. Russia did something similar years ago with Georgia (the country, not the state), but I really don't recall what happened with that.... it kinda got fogged out with all of our stupid war bullshit over here in the US. Our news pretty much stopped covering it and we lost interest. Anyway, they pretty much got away with hitting Georgia. That means the international community is taking this latest action very seriously. And that is a VERY basic rundown of the situation. Now, people, please learn about the topic before you post on it.... Hi.tler invaded some countries that used to be part of Germany before WW1. Your argument is invalid. Oh yeah, who the hell said I was from the US. Im british. So stop giving me US examples. // Fully Speced Mass Driver Expert // Closed Beta Vet // Tech Guards Sexy Beast //
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2663	Posted - 2014.03.21 14:05:00 - [28] - Quote C Saunders wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: C Saunders wrote: ** the russians, they have no right to be in Crimea. Get stuffed idiot, you don't know what you are even talking about. For those who care to learn a bit before making braindead comments on it, here's some basic info on the situation: Crimea is part of Ukraine which used to be a part of Russia. Crimea has been a largely pro-Russian area of the Ukraine for some years now. It's not like Russia is invading Ireland or anything, they were annexing Crimea to get the Ukrainian military out of it so that Crimea could become a part of Russia again. As of right now, Putin is insisting that they have no intentions to further hassle Ukraine. On the flip side**, this action was brash and violated several international laws. Russia did something similar years ago with Georgia (the country, not the state), but I really don't recall what happened with that.... it kinda got fogged out with all of our stupid war bullshit over here in the US. Our news pretty much stopped covering it and we lost interest. Anyway, they pretty much got away with hitting Georgia. That means the international community is taking this latest action very seriously. And that is a VERY basic rundown of the situation. Now, people, please learn about the topic before you post on it.... Hi.tler invaded some countries that used to be part of Germany before WW1. Your argument is invalid. Oh yeah, who the hell said I was from the US. Im british. So stop giving me US examples. Thats stuiped logic and you know it you might as well say we can the US back please been an adult here its important ti Topic and i dont want it locked because of trolling. Back ontopic i would find ingame attacks on Russia corps an intrested case study on realworld/virtual world corss over "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 246	Posted - 2014.03.21 14:09:00 - [29] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: We can always impose our own economic sanctions across dust and eve on any and all known Russian players. If Ccp tries to stop us they hate freedom. do you hate freedom Ccp? Okay, that one was good for a chuckle. What do you think about Ccp? More like CCCP am I right? Clever little one arent you "Shine bright like a diamond"
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 246	Posted - 2014.03.21 14:12:00 - [30] - Quote Bubba Brown wrote: a fun strategy i heard: start putting some of the strategic oil reserve onto the market gas prices get cheaper for everyone, and the collective price drop really hurts russia's economy (up to 10% of its gpd, which is massive) and considering how huge the SOR is, we could keep this up for 14 years, YEARS Whose oil? If you mean american reserves - i doubt that. Their plan will always be to exhaust the rest before they have to use theirs. "Shine bright like a diamond"



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