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steadyhand amarr wrote:

C Saunders wrote:

Baal Omniscient wrote:

C Saunders wrote:

**** the russians, they have no right to be in Crimea.

Get stuffed idiot, you don't know what you are even talking about.

For those who care to learn a bit before making braindead comments on it, here's some basic info on the situation:

Crimea is part of Ukraine which used to be a part of Russia. Crimea has been a largely pro-Russian area of the Ukraine for some years now. It's not like Russia is invading Ireland or anything, they were annexing Crimea to get the Ukrainian military out of it so that Crimea could become a part of Russia again. As of right now, Putin is insisting that they have no intentions to further hassle Ukraine.

On the flip side, this action was brash and violated several international laws. Russia did something similar years ago with Georgia (the country, not the state), but I really don't recall what happened with that.... it kinda got fogged out with all of our stupid war bullshit over here in the US. Our news pretty much stopped covering it and we lost interest. Anyway, they pretty much got away with hitting Georgia. That means the international community is taking this latest action very seriously.

And that is a VERY basic rundown of the situation. Now, people, please learn about the topic before you post on it....

Hi.tler invaded some countries that used to be part of Germany before WW1.

Your argument is invalid.

Oh yeah, who the hell said I was from the US. Im british. So stop giving me US examples.

Thats stuiped logic and you know it you might as well say we can the US back please been an adult here its important ti
Topic and i dont want it locked because of trolling.

Back ontopic i would find ingame attacks on Russia corps an intrested case study on realworld/virtual world corss over

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Spaceman-Rob Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 372	Posted - 2014.03.21 14:16:00 - [31] - Quote Yea Putin is a wanker alright.
DEATH DEALER 1975 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 22	Posted - 2014.03.21 14:19:00 - [32] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: C Saunders wrote: ** the russians, they have no right to be in Crimea. Get stuffed idiot, you don't know what you are even talking about. For those who care to learn a bit before making braindead comments on it, here's some basic info on the situation: Crimea is part of Ukraine which used to be a part of Russia. Crimea has been a largely pro-Russian area of the Ukraine for some years now. It's not like Russia is invading Ireland or anything, they were annexing Crimea to get the Ukrainian military out of it so that Crimea could become a part of Russia again. As of right now, Putin is insisting that they have no intentions to further hassle Ukraine. On the flip side, this action was brash and violated several international laws. Russia did something similar years ago with Georgia (the country, not the state), but I really don't recall what happened with that.... it kinda got fogged out with all of our stupid war bullshit over here in the US. Our news pretty much stopped covering it and we lost interest. Anyway, they pretty much got away with hitting Georgia. That means the international community is taking this latest action very seriously. And that is a VERY basic rundown of the situation. Now, people, please learn about the topic before you post on it.... And you should know your history better that's same justification that **** used...appeasement, how well did that work out? What the hell h.itler is a blocked word? Anyways it appears a couple people already made this argument.
Derpty Derp It's All Gone Derp 173	Posted - 2014.03.21 14:21:00 - [33] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: C Saunders wrote: ** the russians, they have no right to be in Crimea. Get stuffed idiot, you don't know what you are even talking about. For those who care to learn a bit before making braindead comments on it, here's some basic info on the situation: Crimea is part of Ukraine which used to be a part of Russia. Crimea has been a largely pro-Russian area of the Ukraine for some years now. It's not like Russia is invading Ireland or anything, they were annexing Crimea to get the Ukrainian military out of it so that Crimea could become a part of Russia again. As of right now, Putin is insisting that they have no intentions to further hassle Ukraine. On the flip side, this action was brash and violated several international laws. Russia did something similar years ago with Georgia (the country, not the state), but I really don't recall what happened with that.... it kinda got fogged out with all of our stupid war bullshit over here in the US. Our news pretty much stopped covering it and we lost interest. Anyway, they pretty much got away with hitting Georgia. That means the international community is taking this latest action very seriously. And that is a VERY basic rundown of the situation. Now, people, please learn about the topic before you post on it.... By your logic Britain should be allowed to barge into the US and claim it back by force? But seriously why does any individual person give a ** what bit of land their country is made up of, we should just lock down all land in it's current names and leave it at that, if some ponse calling themselves a leader decides they want more money/power/resources/land they should be ignored & if they try it a second time should just be shot by their own people who should really know better than not to question a politician.
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2663	Posted - 2014.03.21 14:22:00 - [34] - Quote Stay on topic guys really i dont want to get banned for you guys squabbling -_- Discuss ingame reanfications only "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
C Saunders Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 558	Posted - 2014.03.21 14:23:00 - [35] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: C Saunders wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: C Saunders wrote: ** the russians, they have no right to be in Crimea. Get stuffed idiot, you don't know what you are even talking about. For those who care to learn a bit before making braindead comments on it, here's some basic info on the situation: Crimea is part of Ukraine which used to be a part of Russia. Crimea has been a largely pro-Russian area of the Ukraine for some years now. It's not like Russia is invading Ireland or anything, they were annexing Crimea to get the Ukrainian military out of it so that Crimea could become a part of Russia again. As of right now, Putin is insisting that they have no intentions to further hassle Ukraine. On the flip side**, this action was brash and violated several international laws. Russia did something similar years ago with Georgia (the country, not the state), but I really don't recall what happened with that.... it kinda got fogged out with all of our stupid war bullshit over here in the US. Our news pretty much stopped covering it and we lost interest. Anyway, they pretty much got away with hitting Georgia. That means the international community is taking this latest action very seriously. And that is a VERY basic rundown of the situation. Now, people, please learn about the topic before you post on it.... Hi.tler invaded some countries that used to be part of Germany before WW1. Your argument is invalid. Oh yeah, who the hell said I was from the US. Im british. So stop giving me US examples. Thats stuiped logic and you know it you might as well say we can the US back please been an adult here its important ti Topic and i dont want it locked because of trolling. Back ontopic i would find ingame attacks on Russia corps an intrested case study on realworld/virtual world corss over Stupid logic? A perfect comparison actually. Russia lost crimea during time as soviet russia. They're now trying to reclaim it. // Fully Speced Mass Driver Expert // Closed Beta Vet // Tech Guards Sexy Beast //
Delanus Turgias Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 294	Posted - 2014.03.21 14:28:00 - [36] - Quote DEATH DEALER 1975 wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: C Saunders wrote: ** the russians, they have no right to be in Crimea. Get stuffed idiot, you don't know what you are even talking about. For those who care to learn a bit before making braindead comments on it, here's some basic info on the situation: Crimea is part of Ukraine which used to be a part of Russia. Crimea has been a largely pro-Russian area of the Ukraine for some years now. It's not like Russia is invading Ireland or anything, they were annexing Crimea to get the Ukrainian military out of it so that Crimea could become a part of Russia again. As of right now, Putin is insisting that they have no intentions to further hassle Ukraine. On the flip side, this action was brash and violated several international laws. Russia did something similar years ago with Georgia (the country, not the state), but I really don't recall what happened with that.... it kinda got fogged out with all of our stupid war bullshit over here in the US. Our news pretty much stopped covering it and we lost interest. Anyway, they pretty much got away with hitting Georgia. That means the international community is taking this latest action very seriously. And that is a VERY basic rundown of the situation. Now, people, please learn about the topic before you post on it.... And you should know your history better that's same justification that ** used...appeasement, how well did that work out? What the hell h.itler is a blocked word? Anyways it appears a couple people already made this argument. Ever heard of a little place called Sudetenland? This is the exact same **. Nation A wants to take part of Nation B that holds a large number of Ethnicity A, who all speak Language A. Nation B says Nation A can't have it, so Nation A takes it by a treaty to keep them from invading all of Nation B. Closed Beta Vet since May, 2012 TEST Alliance Best Alliance Proud owner of essentially every BPO in Dust
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 249	Posted - 2014.03.21 14:29:00 - [37] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Stay on topic guys really i dont want to get banned for you guys squabbling -_- Discuss ingame reanfications only OK What is really happening - I thought most stuff was being really targeted. I kind of tuned out the last couple of days because most of the news has been about the missing plane. Has there been blocking of network traffic or forcing companies to close / bar existing services? I thought the plan was to hurt the political and corporate elite and not just that sector but specifically the ones close to Putin "Shine bright like a diamond"
OliX PRZESMIEWCA Bezimienni... 64	Posted - 2014.03.21 14:30:00 - [38] - Quote Anybody with at least minimum responsibility and power can close this topic. You discuss about things that no one from this community can know. Once great guy named Bill Hicks said: "war is when two armies are fighting". Since II WW we had only invasions or for example: Persian Gulf Destruction. Please don't put politics here (except dust politics ofc), I'm Polish and it's hard for me that my neighbors got hudge problem. The worst thing is that both sides of interest don't give a f... about Ukrainians...
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2663	Posted - 2014.03.21 14:31:00 - [39] - Quote Ug im gunna delete this thread i had to much faih in communty to not have it derail into the wordest dumest debate Edit: yeh i just wanted this to desucess ingame problems but yeh asking to much of this communty "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Paul Peacemaker Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 28	Posted - 2014.03.21 14:32:00 - [40] - Quote OliX PRZESMIEWCA wrote: Anybody with at least minimum responsibility and power can close this topic. You discuss about things that no one from this community can know. Once great guy named Bill Hicks said: "war is when two armies are fighting". Since II WW we had only invasions or for example: Persian Gulf Destruction. Please don't put politics here (except dust politics ofc), I'm Polish and it's hard for me that my neighbors got hudge problem. The worst thing is that both sides of interest don't give a f... about Ukrainians... I wouldn't worry. As long as people don't call each other idiots for having different views I think this conversation can be quite healthy. I, for one, am very interested in this. Everybody I meet says "I dont want to talk about it" and I am a bit happy that I can finally see what people have to say about it.

Disturbingly Bored Forum Warfare 2054	Posted - 2014.03.21 14:35:00 - [41] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: OH GOD POLITICS It's the ultimate metagame, dude. You should be all over that. I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - *draconian forum overlord* CCP Logibro]
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2663	Posted - 2014.03.21 14:36:00 - [42] - Quote ... As its not been locked yet i trust maybe the GMs feel the same. I for obe dont think EU or Russia are in the right and US just wants to flex its mussels. The whole situation is fuckrd up and in worried because are government dissolved are armed forcrs and if russia goes for it where ducked "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 250	Posted - 2014.03.21 14:55:00 - [43] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: ... As its not been locked yet i trust maybe the GMs feel the same. I for obe dont think EU or Russia are in the right and US just wants to flex its mussels. The whole situation is fuckrd up and in worried because are government dissolved are armed forcrs and if russia goes for it where ducked You really believe that ??? Or by dissolved you mean spread thin in many conflict areas? And I dont think Obama is stupid enough to go to war when the precedent has already been set that they dont go head to head. Its basically proxy war fighting. There was a talking head who laid out all the incursions since world war 2 by Soviet Union and then Russia and no US President used force to combat it. "Shine bright like a diamond"
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2664	Posted - 2014.03.21 15:22:00 - [44] - Quote Im Uk not US are armed forces is a factually a lot smaller and is still decreaseing in size. At the moment open warfare is off the cards the Russia econ cant take the shock and nither can ours but their called flashpoints for a reason. The true wildcard is what china does if they get involved historicaly they dont but their the 3rd power in all this whoever they side with wins basically "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Marc Rime 314	Posted - 2014.03.21 15:24:00 - [45] - Quote Surprised to see this thread still here. Shouldn't it at least have been moved to the locker room by now?
pseudosnipre 590	Posted - 2014.03.21 15:29:00 - [46] - Quote Mad Syringe wrote: This is a game, the crimea crisis is about politics... I don't see a connection. The only prob would be people paying over blocked credit cards... CCCP This wouldn't have happened if Putin was a dirtsider FC. Compulsion: sated. Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2664	Posted - 2014.03.21 15:29:00 - [47] - Quote I was trying to keep it on topic to effects on dust but iv given up maybe the GMs are busy? In which case PARTY "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Disturbingly Bored Forum Warfare 2054	Posted - 2014.03.21 15:29:00 - [48] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: The true wildcard is what china does if they get involved historicaly they dont but their the 3rd power in all this whoever they side with wins basically Which is why they won't. China wouldn't want a winner, because there's tons of money to be made by placing nice to both sides. US and China first ladies just spent the day playing ping-pong together, for cryin' out loud. I'm sure China will be having pleasant phone calls with Putin in the near future, too. Their foreign policy is essentially: "Okay, everybody, just calm the hell down and stop screwing with our economic plans." I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - *draconian forum overlord* CCP Logibro]
Aleph Rynedee Science For Death 77	Posted - 2014.03.21 15:44:00 - [49] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: C Saunders wrote: ** the russians, they have no right to be in Crimea. Isn't that like kinda saying "** the Americans, they have no right to be in Cuba"? I mean, they have military bases there and are culturally intermingled with the Crimeans. Isn't Ukraine basically where Russian culture traces its foundations to as well? For the first question, it would be the same if America was attempting to annex Cuba (which we aren't). The Rus people trace their heritage to the area around Kiev, I want to say the Rus enter the written record around 800-850. The are very deep cultural/political connections between Russia and the Ukraine. The only similarity between Russia/Ukraine and US/Cuba is the proximity they have to one another (and the use of military bases I guess).
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 13593	Posted - 2014.03.21 15:45:00 - [50] - Quote Aleph Rynedee wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: C Saunders wrote: ** the russians, they have no right to be in Crimea. Isn't that like kinda saying "** the Americans, they have no right to be in Cuba"? I mean, they have military bases there and are culturally intermingled with the Crimeans. Isn't Ukraine basically where Russian culture traces its foundations to as well? For the first question, it would be the same if America was attempting to annex Cuba (which we aren't). The Rus people trace their heritage to the area around Kiev, I want to say the Rus enter the written record around 800-850. The are very deep cultural/political connections between Russia and the Ukraine. The only similarity between Russia/Ukraine and US/Cuba is the proximity they have to one another (and the use of military bases I guess). Anymore. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked

Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1326	Posted - 2014.03.21 16:05:00 - [51] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: C Saunders wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: C Saunders wrote: ** the russians, they have no right to be in Crimea. Get stuffed idiot, you don't know what you are even talking about. For those who care to learn a bit before making braindead comments on it, here's some basic info on the situation: Crimea is part of Ukraine which used to be a part of Russia. Crimea has been a largely pro-Russian area of the Ukraine for some years now. It's not like Russia is invading Ireland or anything, they were annexing Crimea to get the Ukrainian military out of it so that Crimea could become a part of Russia again. As of right now, Putin is insisting that they have no intentions to further hassle Ukraine. On the flip side*, this action was brash and violated several international laws. Russia did something similar years ago with Georgia (the country, not the state), but I really don't recall what happened with that.... it kinda got fogged out with all of our stupid war bullshit over here in the US. Our news pretty much stopped covering it and we lost interest. Anyway, they pretty much got away with hitting Georgia. That means the international community is taking this latest action very seriously. And that is a VERY basic rundown of the situation. Now, people, please learn about the topic before you post on it.... Hi.tler invaded some countries that used to be part of Germany before WW1. Your argument is invalid. Oh yeah, who the hell said I was from the US. Im british. So stop giving me US examples. Thats stuiped logic and you know it you might as well say we can the US back please been an adult here its important ti Topic and i dont want it locked because of trolling. Back ontopic i would find ingame attacks on Russia corps an intrested case study on realworld/virtual world corss over No worries. As everyone who follows politics knows, as soon as you resort to using the bad guys from WWII as examples, you've lost the argument. MAG ~ Raven* I GÖú puppies.
Serimos Haeraven The Exemplars Top Men. 701	Posted - 2014.03.21 16:06:00 - [52] - Quote I can sort of understand why Putin would want to annex Crimea, although even when you WANT to do something, if international law states that it's not allowed, then that should be the end of the line. When a country and its president chooses to defy international law, there should be actions taken in response. And if Russia even tries to annex other cities, it will more than likely immediately lead to war. Hopefully Putin isn't that delusional, but based on what he has done so far, anything is possible at this point. Tankers are being diagnosed with a new disease; Cancer of the Assault Dropship. Many of them don't survive.
Protean Zero SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 0	Posted - 2014.03.21 16:29:00 - [53] - Quote Sergamon Draco wrote: Yep i vote yes to kick russians out Not all russians has to do with their political problems. This was a few on the big chairs that made this decition. BTW alienating people wont get peole to be more humanitarian.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5271	Posted - 2014.03.21 16:39:00 - [54] - Quote I say we take all the Caldari and push them somewhere else! Huh? Wrong thread? *1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole* -Title Awarded by True Adamance
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2665	Posted - 2014.03.21 16:43:00 - [55] - Quote Your joke is what happend to the tatars during the sovat union where Russian deported the lot. Bbuutt i dont think that was point you where eluding too :-P "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 648	Posted - 2014.03.21 16:46:00 - [56] - Quote Sergamon Draco wrote: Yep i vote yes to kick russians out sometimes I wonder what's wrong with this country and comments like this pop up go Finland... BANGO SKANK WAS HERE 1.7 best match (HMG): 40/9/9 (K/A/D)
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 256	Posted - 2014.03.21 16:46:00 - [57] - Quote Serimos Haeraven wrote: There has already recently been a Ukrainian officer killed a few days ago by getting shot directly in the heart when Russian's stormed a Ukrainian base in Crimea. If this is any indication, things could seriously escalate if Russia doesn't start to back down and just sit on Crimea. As far as I know that officer was killed by an agent provokateur, as was a russian soldier in the same incident. This is not a black and white crisis, it's many shades of gray, especcially on the ukrainian side. There are the people, who just wanted to be part of the EU, to gain better standard of living, and maybe getting help against the rampant corruption in the ukraine. But there are also right wing extremists who want nothing but revenge against russia. And obviously the corrupt politicians caste. Problem is, if this goes unchallanged, Putin might get more interest in other former CCCP territory.
ThePrinceOfNigeria Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 366	Posted - 2014.03.21 16:47:00 - [58] - Quote C Saunders wrote: **** the russians, they have no right to be in Crimea. "Cremea river" ~Putin
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 771	Posted - 2014.03.21 16:51:00 - [59] - Quote Harpyja wrote: C Saunders wrote: ** the russians, they have no right to be in Crimea. The US had no right to be in and mess with Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria... the list goes on. Russia has every right to be in Crimea. Russian majority, strong cultural ties, and the Crimeans even overwhelmingly voted to be annexed by Russia. Western propoganda is nothing but Western propoganda. Take a look at some videos of what really happened during the riots in Kiev, Ukraine. Riot police forming defensive lines while the protestors throw Molotov cocktails at them, beat them with clubs and metal poles, even threatening to run a bulldozer through one police line. They were even destroying the roads to use their bricks as projectiles to throw at the riot police. Are these protestors civilized people we want in a newly installed government? And don't forget that this was a coup d'+¬tat which is technically illegal under the UN charter and the new government is a "government of the victors," not a democratically chosen government. Russian people in Ukraine have every right to ask Russia for help. And the West has absolutely no right to tell Russia otherwise. You are correct about Iraq, however you are wrong about Afghanistan( the taliban were protecting bin laden and 911 was his fault). Libya and Syria?, The US has not invaded Libya or Syria. If Crimea wants to join Russia, I say let them. Most of them are ethnic Russians anyway. As far as the Russian players, why on earth would folks punish gamers of any country just because their governments are stupid? Both the West and the East governments are quite capable of doing stupid things. Innocent civilians that had nothing to do with their governments being ******, should not be punished.
Marc Rime 317	Posted - 2014.03.21 16:55:00 - [60] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: No worries. As everyone who follows politics knows, as soon as you resort to using the bad guys from WWII as examples, you've lost the argument. Politics? Arguments on the Internet is what spawned Godwin's Law in the first place ;).



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