DUST Search - goodbye to our Russia players?

Harpyja wrote:

C Saunders wrote:

**** the russians, they have no right to be in Crimea.

The US had no right to be in and mess with Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria... the list goes on.

Russia has every right to be in Crimea. Russian majority, strong cultural ties, and the Crimeans even overwhelmingly voted to be annexed by Russia.

Western propoganda is nothing but Western propoganda. Take a look at some videos of what really happened during the riots in Kiev, Ukraine. Riot police forming defensive lines while the protestors throw Molotov cocktails at them, beat them with clubs and metal poles, even threatening to run a bulldozer through one police line. They were even destroying the roads to use their bricks as projectiles to throw at the riot police.

Are these protestors civilized people we want in a newly installed government? And don't forget that this was a coup d'+¬tat which is technically illegal under the UN charter and the new government is a "government of the victors," not a democratically chosen government. Russian people in Ukraine have every right to ask Russia for help.

And the West has absolutely no right to tell Russia otherwise.


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soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 771	Posted - 2014.03.21 16:51:00 - [1] - Quote Harpyja wrote: C Saunders wrote: ** the russians, they have no right to be in Crimea. The US had no right to be in and mess with Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria... the list goes on. Russia has every right to be in Crimea. Russian majority, strong cultural ties, and the Crimeans even overwhelmingly voted to be annexed by Russia. Western propoganda is nothing but Western propoganda. Take a look at some videos of what really happened during the riots in Kiev, Ukraine. Riot police forming defensive lines while the protestors throw Molotov cocktails at them, beat them with clubs and metal poles, even threatening to run a bulldozer through one police line. They were even destroying the roads to use their bricks as projectiles to throw at the riot police. Are these protestors civilized people we want in a newly installed government? And don't forget that this was a coup d'+¬tat which is technically illegal under the UN charter and the new government is a "government of the victors," not a democratically chosen government. Russian people in Ukraine have every right to ask Russia for help. And the West has absolutely no right to tell Russia otherwise. You are correct about Iraq, however you are wrong about Afghanistan( the taliban were protecting bin laden and 911 was his fault). Libya and Syria?, The US has not invaded Libya or Syria. If Crimea wants to join Russia, I say let them. Most of them are ethnic Russians anyway. As far as the Russian players, why on earth would folks punish gamers of any country just because their governments are stupid? Both the West and the East governments are quite capable of doing stupid things. Innocent civilians that had nothing to do with their governments being ******, should not be punished.
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 771	Posted - 2014.03.21 19:24:00 - [2] - Quote Shokhann Echo wrote: C Saunders wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Think the internet is bad now wait till we have to deal with WW3 trash talking One trigger happy soldier and world war 3 could start. Its not too funny. if World War 3 started, there would be no worry on Americas part because our military is voluntary, now if there was a draft enacted immediately, then we would have to worry. also china and Russia's military power could effectively invade us on our best day and we would struggle to keep dominance on the mainland. You obviously have not seen Red Dawn. Wolverines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 772	Posted - 2014.03.21 19:54:00 - [3] - Quote Kristoff Atruin wrote: I'm just here to shoot nerds in the face. Real world politics has no place in the game unless I'm directly involved and other people bring the topic up. The idea of taking some kind of in-game action in response to a real world politician taking hostile action is just silly. Realistically the only effect this will have is on in-game "ethnic" politics, if there even are any Dust groups based around the Russian language, or on internet connection stability for players living in that part of the world. Beyond that it isn't relevant to us. You had me at "shoot nerds in the face"
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 775	Posted - 2014.03.21 23:25:00 - [4] - Quote As I have said on here a couple of times before, I have no problem with Crimea wanting to join Russia. Most of them are ethnic Russians anyway and it was always part of Russia prior to Kruschev giving it away. The Iraq war was bogus, however, do not lump Kuwait and Afghanistan in with it and say they are the same thing. There was a bad guy who headed a bad guy organization and he was being sheltered by the Taliban. That same bad guy and his organization were responsible for 9-11-2001. The Taliban would not give him up. As a result, the US had every right to go in there. Kuwait was invaded by a foreign country know as Iraq. The west went in there to kick them out of Kuwait. Once that was done, they did not invade Iraq again until that moron bush did it. Do not compare the Kuwait and Afghanistan wars to the second Iraq fiasco. P.S. chief, there are no oil refineries of note in Afghanistan. If everything was about oil, then Obama would invade Venezuela. That's right sunshine. The biggest oil reserves on the planet are there.
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 780	Posted - 2014.03.22 13:26:00 - [5] - Quote All these politics are making folks get more antsy than they need to be on a video game forum. So lets debate things that really matter like tastes great vs less filling, copenhagen or kodiak snuff, which pony is the best pony, and last but not least, is justin bieber an alien or not?
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 780	Posted - 2014.03.22 14:22:00 - [6] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: Sergamon Draco wrote: Ok here is talk about yanks beeing in afghanistan,but some of you people may remember.russian`s/soviet`s was also in there,and they got their asses kicked by afghans Ok but there is still talk about America going to Afghanistan..... So.... You kinda fail to address that point. You sir, also fail to mention why the Americans went to Afghanistan. There was a certain bad guy living there at the time that was responsible for 9-11-2001 or did you forget that?
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 780	Posted - 2014.03.22 19:36:00 - [7] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: soulreaper73 wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: Sergamon Draco wrote: Ok here is talk about yanks beeing in afghanistan,but some of you people may remember.russian`s/soviet`s was also in there,and they got their asses kicked by afghans Ok but there is still talk about America going to Afghanistan..... So.... You kinda fail to address that point. You sir, also fail to mention why the Americans went to Afghanistan. There was a certain bad guy living there at the time that was responsible for 9-11-2001 or did you forget that? And you fail to mention why Soviets were there.... You see how things are sorta symmetric here. The Soviets went there to prop up the government of Afghanistan. They were not attacked by a terrorist group prior to their invasion. The U.S was. But, I guess you are one of those conspiracy nuts that believes, the US blew the World Trade Center itself.