What's the difference between invading it and invading Ireland?
Ukraine is a sovereign country and has a treaty with Russia.

Russia has no place in Crimea beyond what the treaty allows and Ukrainians have already been killed.
It's an invasion.

Paul,
I am indeed quite confused as to who you are referring to, and I will assume that you are indeed an American.

The American mindset is very good! Indeed it is. I have always admired Americans. And by this I mean the American Individual, the American work ethic, the American dream. What is left? Almost none of the ideals that made America great exist now in today's America. I look around me in the streets of LA and I see gang violence, reminiscent perhaps of the old days in Russia.

I believe that perhaps the Russian people feel cheated. Many of us who have been exposed to both American and Russian propaganda, we feel cheated on both sides of the world. When my uncle first came to America, he sent me a letter back home telling me how friendly the people were, how hard working, and how much better they lived. That was true, then. Now it is a different story. I decided to follow my Uncle--it appears I missed the golden days because the America that I saw was not the America my uncle had told me.

It was an America where the only person speaking the pledge of allegiance in a crowded room of natural-born Americans was an immigrant.
It was an America where the only person respecting the great ideals of America, the great flag of America, the only person respecting and having pride in his new country, was me, a Russian, and a legal immigrant.
It was an America where drugs slowly became more and more prevalent, filled with grumblers and people demanding handouts and other such entitlement.

I often asked myself is this the America I came over to see? To find a reflection of the old Russia I had left behind?

I returned to Russia recently to visit relatives. It has vastly improved since I last visited. Taxes were low, religious and freedom of speech. Corruption had already begun to slowly fall apart as the old system of Druzhiniki was re-established.
Most of all we had a leader, Putin. Maybe a shrewd, cunning, snakish, more authoritan ruler--but a ruler nontheless.

America should not be grossly generalized as fat, full, and lazy. Far from that, there is certainly much more to America than McDonalds, dozens and dozens of young teens bent over, staring at their Samsung Galaxies and iPhone 5's while they cross the street, surely more than the racism and ethnic hating I receive for being a Russian, surely more than the ignoranumuses who traverse around blasting around their mouths in gigantic suits who call themselves politicians. Surely America is more than the average teen who utilizes crude words in every sentence, with a vocabulary smaller than that of an immigrant who has lived fewer years in America than they have, surely more than the theoretical knowledge that America has over practical, applied knowledge, surely more than failed education systems and banks.

Yes, the heart of America is still there, but it is hidden by a certain corruption, tainted by a single individual, or several up in the big, marble-columned house in Washington D.C.

Putin himself stumbles as he speaks, makes his mistakes like any individual. Does he lie? Certainly. What shrewd politician does not?

But do we stereotype, or hate, a country based on one man, the actions of a few, of a hundred, of a thousand, in almost perfect synechdoche of hundreds of millions of people?

What exactly does that make us? If Russia stereotyped US entirely by Obama, the Average Russian's respect for US would be absolutely zero.

What makes a country a home? Is it how much money, how much food, how much material wealth you have?

Then I ask, is it not the warmth of the people, the strength of their hearts, and the vigor and passion they have? These values I find that the average American no longer has. I look around me and I find distress, anguish, amidst the abundance and wealth in America.

And all of it is plagued with a large number we call a national debt.

Do the same problems hit home in Russia? No! By no means. Russia has different problems. Russia has Putin. Likewise, America has Obama.

Is it fair, and I am sure most will agree, that Russia is bad because Putin and America because Obama?

In the end I say one thing: We should both take out the planks in each of our own eyes before we mutter any harsh word or stand blindly behind our own ideals. For right now one thing is clear--America is a beautiful nation, impurified by one. Russia is beautiful, alas impurified as well.

I do not believe you are blind in your beliefs, however, I feel that many fellow Americans are. It saddened me greatly when, during the 2004 elections, I heard a group of men and women, when approached by some Obama voters, told that if they did not vote for Obama, they were racist.

It saddened me more yet to hear from a group of young adults that they "voted for Obama just because he was black, a better speaker, and did I mention suave?"

Even in Russia, amongst the drinks passed around the table at night, amongst the old traditions that hold still, talks of policies dominated voting. The Russian Congress has 5 parties that hold fair shares of seats, versus the US Congress of Two Parties.

There always exists the ignorant. Let us two not be one of those ignorant, may I have an agreement in that? ))

Besides, we are of the same alliance.

If I seemingly contradict myself, it is possible I am under the influence, but more likely than not I have since changed my mind, open-minded and observing of all opinions.

Please have a nice day!

Sincerely,
Dmitri Chuikov

The ppl of Crimea were threatened by the mob who proclaimed to be the government of Ukraine, they conducted a referendum and secessed from Ukraine according to the will of their people. What invasion are you talking about?

a fun strategy i heard:
start putting some of the strategic oil reserve onto the market
gas prices get cheaper for everyone, and the collective price drop really hurts russia's economy (up to 10% of its gpd, which is massive)
and considering how huge the SOR is, we could keep this up for 14 years, YEARS

Well, I have read some amazing article about this.
Basically, America is always trying to beat Russia one way or another. And it has a very interesting way of doing it.
CIA funded Alkaida, and many other coups. You know why? Because... China. Let me explain. Syberia has some awesome resources that China needs. They are very resource dependent and they suck them up like a sponge. So America is slowly making their way towards Russia, by placing their military bases closer and closer, and trying to deny Russia anything that they can without causing a **** storm.


Now ,every time China was close to acquiring something useful, some stuff would happen that would not allow them to get the resources. They are starting to get desperate and that is exactly what US wants - for China to start looking into Syberia, since it's so incredibly close and has ALL the stuff they need.

USA was trying to get rid of Russia's power for tens of years now. Does it seem brutal? Yes.
But I approve. My countryr (Poland) is close to Russia. They were always affecting my country one way or another. A lot of people don't know how crazy the russians are, how horrible.
My girlfriend's grand grand mother told her an interesting story from the WWII. We were pretty much occupied by both Germany and Russia, and what that old lady said was that when Germans were coming to her farm, they would always be clean, washed, smelled good and were polite.
Now, when Russians used to come to the farm, they'd be absolutely filthy, smelled like ****, did not even ask for permission to take anything from the farm and they were abusive.
This is a good example of how the whole Russia treats other people. This country is a mess, in a huge debt and is one big mafia.

Russia should never be in power of anything. They will destroy it, suck it out of all the money and profits so a couple of politicians can stuff their wallets. They were ruthless during Stalin's rule, they were ruthless before that, and they are known for stuffing their citizens throats with propaganda.

Some of you have no idea how **** that country is. I wish I didn't have to live near it. We grow up reading books about Russification (occupation where we can't speak another language other than Russian, where the intelligent Polish people were often killed to try and make the country dumber), gulags, Katyn disaster and so on. They have a history of being liars, backstabbers, filthy alcoholics that HAVE TO BE STOPPED one way or another.

So, even though America is doing something very mean and I do not fully approve, I think it is necessary to finally start getting rid of the evil.

Hi.tler invaded some countries that used to be part of Germany before WW1.

Your argument is invalid.


Oh yeah, who the hell said I was from the US. Im british. So stop giving me US examples.

if your talking about an American civil war, were long overdue for one. I am speaking based on our military strength, not the strength of all u.s citizens.

Russia did invade according to the media, you have to look at both sides to see if its an invasion or a reclamation.

That's a poor explanation at best. When the Ukrainians ousted their president they put in a president who is very pro west and anti east and is pretty open about that. There were talks in this new government to cancel the lease to the Russians allowing their ships in the black sea fleet to be stationed there. This lease was to last until 2042. The port in Crimea is a massive strategic port for the Russians and is what allows them to project power into the black sea, Mediterranean, and Indian ocean.
It would be stupid for the Russians not to act, as they would either have to send billions of monies to the south of Russia to build a suitable port, or they would have to seriously reduce their black sea fleet if the lease was canceled. This is not the first time the Ukrainian government have tried to cancel The lease, and as important as the port is in Crimea I'm not surprised the Russians are trying to annex it. Though the people of Crimea seem quite content to join the Russian federation.

The real question is what business does the united states have there? I'm sure its because of the same strategic port. The us doesn't want the Russians to have it for themselves. Though the us has pulled similar moves to the one Russia is taking with Crimea, so it's pretty ironic they are coming down so hard on them.

I don't know much about what happened with Georgia back in 2009, I think the Russians grabbed a bunch of their land, like a third of it. Iqouod have to look into that one, however the situation in Crimea is understandable, that port is very important to the Russians.

Ok here is talk about yanks beeing in afghanistan,but some of you people may remember.russian`s/soviet`s was also in there,and they got their asses kicked by afghans

Comrade Zahle ))

I did not call Obamacare Fascism. I said that Obamacare was a Fascist Attempt at Socialism--very different thing. If I did not, I correct myself.

What I mean is that in itself Obamacare is very direct and forceful. No health insurance? Ok, pay a fine! What if you can't get health insurance no matter what? Buy Obamacare!

You don't have much of a choice as to what to do, is what I mean. Kind of like being stuck between rock and a hard place...

Hope this helps clarify!

-Dmitri

this is a political argument. this country has gone to **** on the things youv described and more thanks to the liberals taking over, more and more freedom is robed from us each day and only the immigrants are happy because theyv never had real freedom.

I wonder if Russia will lose veto power in UN security council for violations

This is a game, the crimea crisis is about politics...

I don't see a connection. The only prob would be people paying over blocked credit cards...

The ppl of Crimea were threatened by the mob who proclaimed to be the government of Ukraine, they conducted a referendum and secessed from Ukraine according to the will of their people. What invasion are you talking about?

Damned if we do and damned if we don't. People want America to intervene in world events and others want America to not intervene world events. Not just the people here but around the world. There will be people saying screw America because we're not helping or because we are. If we were to simply just isolate ourselves from the world except our straight-forward allies, people would QQ. If we would act like the world police, like we still do at times, people will QQ.


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I don't see how this affects the game btw OP

**** the russians, they have no right to be in Crimea.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f91/Shaunessy/Criminal_zps0f0a5c90.jpg

Anyone that say it was needed for Russia to project power into the black sea is fooling themselves. Russia enjoys a long border with the black sea. Infact the latest Olympics, held by Russia, is right on the black sea as witnessed in this pic here. http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f91/Shaunessy/sochi_zpsd148e2b5.jpg

So what was your argument again?

Ok here is talk about yanks beeing in afghanistan,but some of you people may remember.russian`s/soviet`s was also in there,and they got their asses kicked by afghans

Ok but there is still talk about America going to Afghanistan..... So.... You kinda fail to address that point.

i mean seriously crimea did choose to be a part of russia again.