DUST Search - JLAV's needs to go

Godin Thekiller wrote:

lithkul devant wrote:

All I have to say to Godin is for them to rot, after how Nayain San literally made ambush tankbush, with little to no way to fight back against it. Even if we did kill 5 tanks, they just summon in more, camp all spawn points, and let the other people destroy all of the uplinks. The OP's arguement is even more **** because the patch notes are clearly saying all gernades will be down to 2, meaning that with advanced AV gernades I can not even kill a milita LAV most times.

If you want tanks cheap and available for everyone to use, they need to be destroyable, instead of nearly indestructible when using swarm missiles. Their's plenty of threads proving that tanks have gotten to OP and bullshitish for the price, such as if you miss one round with a drop ship on them, the tanks will be nearly back to full health from nearly dead.

Beyond this point, suicide tactics have always been a part of war, we do it in modern times even and we will do so in the future as well. So your entire arguement is just absolute **** Godin.

You tankers got your wish that it would take more then 1 person to kill a tank, then you have corps who summon in 4-5 tanks for a match on any mode, roll around together and use herd protection if one of the tanks get weak. So like I said before, go rot Godin if you really want to have Jihad jeeps taken out, when AV is so weak and pathetic.

You want to use real life to argue against balance? Also, are you trying to condone tactics that I'm pretty sure no western country hates and doesn't use like at all?

Also, you made the mistake everyone else made: You didn't read the whole thing


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lithkul devant Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day 162	Posted - 2014.03.19 02:00:00 - [1] - Quote All I have to say to Godin is for them to rot, after how Nayain San literally made ambush tankbush, with little to no way to fight back against it. Even if we did kill 5 tanks, they just summon in more, camp all spawn points, and let the other people destroy all of the uplinks. The OP's arguement is even more ** because the patch notes are clearly saying all gernades will be down to 2, meaning that with advanced AV gernades I can not even kill a milita LAV most times. If you want tanks cheap and available for everyone to use, they need to be destroyable, instead of nearly indestructible when using swarm missiles. Their's plenty of threads proving that tanks have gotten to OP and bullshitish for the price, such as if you miss one round with a drop ship on them, the tanks will be nearly back to full health from nearly dead. Beyond this point, suicide tactics have always been a part of war, we do it in modern times even and we will do so in the future as well. So your entire arguement is just absolute ** Godin. You tankers got your wish that it would take more then 1 person to kill a tank, then you have corps who summon in 4-5 tanks for a match on any mode, roll around together and use herd protection if one of the tanks get weak. So like I said before, go rot Godin if you really want to have Jihad jeeps taken out, when AV is so weak and pathetic.
lithkul devant Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day 162	Posted - 2014.03.20 16:34:00 - [2] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: lithkul devant wrote: All I have to say to Godin is for them to rot, after how Nayain San literally made ambush tankbush, with little to no way to fight back against it. Even if we did kill 5 tanks, they just summon in more, camp all spawn points, and let the other people destroy all of the uplinks. The OP's arguement is even more ** because the patch notes are clearly saying all gernades will be down to 2, meaning that with advanced AV gernades I can not even kill a milita LAV most times. If you want tanks cheap and available for everyone to use, they need to be destroyable, instead of nearly indestructible when using swarm missiles. Their's plenty of threads proving that tanks have gotten to OP and bullshitish for the price, such as if you miss one round with a drop ship on them, the tanks will be nearly back to full health from nearly dead. Beyond this point, suicide tactics have always been a part of war, we do it in modern times even and we will do so in the future as well. So your entire arguement is just absolute ** Godin. You tankers got your wish that it would take more then 1 person to kill a tank, then you have corps who summon in 4-5 tanks for a match on any mode, roll around together and use herd protection if one of the tanks get weak. So like I said before, go rot Godin if you really want to have Jihad jeeps taken out, when AV is so weak and pathetic. You want to use real life to argue against balance? Also, are you trying to condone tactics that I'm pretty sure no western country hates and doesn't use like at all? Also, you made the mistake everyone else made: You didn't read the whole thing Alright, I will admit I did not bother with the red text intially, I have read some of your ideas before, some of which that I do in fact like. That being said, if you were to take out JLAV's currently it would provide a much bigger imbalance to the game, to where games would be decided simply by who has the best tanks and by when. Also, JLAV's are not as cheap as what you are making them out to be, 0-50k based on just the vehicle, then you have to usually add the cost of the suit being destroyed in an effort to temporary make a tank flee or to destroy the tank, which the tank value can actually be pretty low, if you use a milita fitted tank which is very effective still the one I currently use runs for roughly 75k. Also, while the tactics of suicide bombing would not be acceptable within the United States/western currently, except in many movies like independence day or many others where the hero crashes the said vehicle into the enemy vehicle to destroy it or damage it majorly you are correct. We've used suicide tactics before as well in the United States just not in a very long time, because we don't usually have to, they are a last resort tactic not a go to tactic. Many of your other ideas would have to be implimented first before JLAV removal would be fair in many senses. Such as having a reasonable way of handling tank spaming, damage changes, etc. Otherwise you are taking away a viable way of defense such as what CCP is doing with taking away 1 gernade of every type including AV gernades, which is to fix one thing and destroy the balance of another.