DUST Search - Commando Registry // Scouts only think they got it bad

Llast 326 wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Llast 326 wrote:

Easiest way to find True and AeroGÇª

Since you two have run Scout and certainly have some thoughts about the Amarr scoutGÇª

CCP Rattati wrote:

What do you feel about Amarr having the range, Gallente having dampeners, CA having precision and MM get better at hacking and running.

I am not too comfortable with giving the CA both range and precision supremacy, I believe you have to make a choice.

Swing by the Shop

I'm cool with that but what happens to the biotics stats. Amarr naturally has the highest base stamina pool....... how does its stamina regen compare to the other scouts... or how would it compare sans its current bonus?

Well, the disparity in the Min regen still exists (really think 45 would have sufficed) Amarr will still have a pool of 50-75 point higher than anyone else, but I would say a base increase in Regen would be in order. Currently (without Bonus) its 40 (a 6.8 sec recharge) the slowest recharge to full rate. Cal/Gal sitting at 6.6 recharge to full (albeit with a much smaller pool) and Min sitting at 3.75 sec recharge to full.
Switch the Min and Amarr rates 5.6 for Min and Amarr would be 4.5ishGÇª possible solution.

Totally overlooked how Stamina changes would play on this.
Thanks True

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Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 2122	Posted - 2014.07.09 22:36:00 - [1411] - Quote Hey Yassavi, (do you still visit? I don't really know anymore) The Scouts are planning to get some FW matches done sometime in the near future in preparation for a tip top super secret operation. What would you say to being the opposition? (Min vs Amarr, naturally) Give us a good organised team to test our mettle against, y'know? I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11727	Posted - 2014.07.09 22:56:00 - [1412] - Quote Spademan wrote: Hey Yassavi, (do you still visit? I don't really know anymore) The Scouts are planning to get some FW matches done sometime in the near future in preparation for a tip top super secret operation. What would you say to being the opposition? (Min vs Amarr, naturally) Give us a good organised team to test our mettle against, y'know? They tried that months ago..... nothing amounted. If it goes ahead I have no doubt Amarr Mil can put together its squads with no issue......but right now PIE Inc has more pressing concerns meaning I won't be on Dust very much. As for Aero I haven't seen him in Dust or on PSN for a long while. "So you came back......My son, my Udorian son.....bearing the filthy blood of his heathen mother." - Eaderan Ouryon
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 2128	Posted - 2014.07.09 23:26:00 - [1413] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Spademan wrote: Hey Yassavi, (do you still visit? I don't really know anymore) The Scouts are planning to get some FW matches done sometime in the near future in preparation for a tip top super secret operation. What would you say to being the opposition? (Min vs Amarr, naturally) Give us a good organised team to test our mettle against, y'know? They tried that months ago..... nothing amounted. If it goes ahead I have no doubt Amarr Mil can put together its squads with no issue......but right now PIE Inc has more pressing concerns meaning I won't be on Dust very much. As for Aero I haven't seen him in Dust or on PSN for a long while. We're getting some more momentum with the idea, so it looks like it'll happen. I ran with Aero the other day, so he's still around (unless it was an anomaly) But yeah, if ye can't then no sweat, cheers. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8729	Posted - 2014.07.11 10:12:00 - [1414] - Quote XxGhazbaranxX wrote: Verify Your reload math please, the thread is good but some numbers are incorrect Plasma Cannon Reload: 3.5 seconds 25% reduction Commando bonus level 5: .75 multiplier 15% reduction rapid reload multiplier: .85 The math would go: Plasma Cannon Reload speed example 3.5.75.85 = 2.3 seconds Not -25%-15% = 40% reduction 3. .6 = 2.04 I was never doing the latter. I believe the way I did my math was 1.25 x 1.15 =1.375, meaning 37.5% faster reloading. That is different than your supposed 0.75 x 0.85 = 0.6375, meaning 36.25% faster reloading. Not sure which is correct, liked the first because it's a little higher :p Amarr are the good guys Their way of the Commando seems right and noble
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8730	Posted - 2014.07.11 10:20:00 - [1415] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: True Adamance wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Easiest way to find True and AeroGÇª Since you two have run Scout and certainly have some thoughts about the Amarr scoutGÇª CCP Rattati wrote: What do you feel about Amarr having the range, Gallente having dampeners, CA having precision and MM get better at hacking and running. I am not too comfortable with giving the CA both range and precision supremacy, I believe you have to make a choice. Swing by the Shop I'm cool with that but what happens to the biotics stats. Amarr naturally has the highest base stamina pool....... how does its stamina regen compare to the other scouts... or how would it compare sans its current bonus? Well, the disparity in the Min regen still exists (really think 45 would have sufficed) Amarr will still have a pool of 50-75 point higher than anyone else, but I would say a base increase in Regen would be in order. Currently (without Bonus) its 40 (a 6.8 sec recharge) the slowest recharge to full rate. Cal/Gal sitting at 6.6 recharge to full (albeit with a much smaller pool) and Min sitting at 3.75 sec recharge to full. Switch the Min and Amarr rates 5.6 for Min and Amarr would be 4.5ishGÇª possible solution. Totally overlooked how Stamina changes would play on this. Thanks True True, I'm disappointed that you didn't bring up that Amarr's stamina is to make up for their slower speed, so no need to factor that in with the balancing the bonuses. Compare the Amarr scout base stamina with say the Minmatar for example. Put them to a race and stop once the stamina depletes. Even though Amarr has more stamina, Minmatar goes further (and in less time). May have to reexamine the numbers, but you get the point. Amarr are the good guys Their way of the Commando seems right and noble
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8730	Posted - 2014.07.11 10:27:00 - [1416] - Quote Spademan wrote: Hey Yassavi, (do you still visit? I don't really know anymore) The Scouts are planning to get some FW matches done sometime in the near future in preparation for a tip top super secret operation. What would you say to being the opposition? (Min vs Amarr, naturally) Give us a good organised team to test our mettle against, y'know? Still around, just spending more time in game than the forums lately, but I try to catch up with triple posts when I can. It's be down for such matches after the Amarr scout gets tweaked in the hot fix. I actually deleted all my scout fits and have been regretting maxing out the Amarr scout as ff late, don't get much use out of it. Amarr are the good guys Their way of the Commando seems right and noble
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 2145	Posted - 2014.07.11 21:00:00 - [1417] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Spademan wrote: Hey Yassavi, (do you still visit? I don't really know anymore) The Scouts are planning to get some FW matches done sometime in the near future in preparation for a tip top super secret operation. What would you say to being the opposition? (Min vs Amarr, naturally) Give us a good organised team to test our mettle against, y'know? Still around, just spending more time in game than the forums lately, but I try to catch up with triple posts when I can. It's be down for such matches after the Amarr scout gets tweaked in the hot fix. I actually deleted all my scout fits and have been regretting maxing out the Amarr scout as ff late, don't get much use out of it. Well they've been considering giving the Amarr a Precision bonus instead of stamina. Can I ask, what exactly would you like to see from the Amarr Scout? What would you like it to do? I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 2286	Posted - 2014.07.16 17:17:00 - [1418] - Quote News: Possible slot layout changes, Amarr get more lows in general and Gallente slightly less (by like 1 or two) Caldari Assault getting a 5/2 layout and Amarr getting a 2/5 for example. Things like that. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8799	Posted - 2014.07.16 22:23:00 - [1419] - Quote Spademan wrote: News: Possible slot layout changes, Amarr get more lows in general and Gallente slightly less (by like 1 or two) Caldari Assault getting a 5/2 layout and Amarr getting a 2/5 for example. Things like that. The only real change for the Amarr Commando would be a change at standard from 1H/1L to 0H/2L and a change at advanced from 1H/2L to 0H/3L. Certainly makes the prototype suit feel a little less desirable given you have all your low slots available at advanced (albeit not the CPU/PG). Amarr are the good guys Their way of the Commando seems right and noble
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 2303	Posted - 2014.07.16 22:39:00 - [1420] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Spademan wrote: News: Possible slot layout changes, Amarr get more lows in general and Gallente slightly less (by like 1 or two) Caldari Assault getting a 5/2 layout and Amarr getting a 2/5 for example. Things like that. The only real change for the Amarr Commando would be a change at standard from 1H/1L to 0H/2L and a change at advanced from 1H/2L to 0H/3L. Certainly makes the prototype suit feel a little less desirable given you have all your low slots available at advanced (albeit not the CPU/PG). Don't suppose that high could be valuable for a damage mod? Keeping in mind Rattati made an offhand comment about buffing them. Minmatar Commando sees no change though. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community

Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8800	Posted - 2014.07.16 22:41:00 - [1421] - Quote Spademan wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Spademan wrote: News: Possible slot layout changes, Amarr get more lows in general and Gallente slightly less (by like 1 or two) Caldari Assault getting a 5/2 layout and Amarr getting a 2/5 for example. Things like that. The only real change for the Amarr Commando would be a change at standard from 1H/1L to 0H/2L and a change at advanced from 1H/2L to 0H/3L. Certainly makes the prototype suit feel a little less desirable given you have all your low slots available at advanced (albeit not the CPU/PG). Don't suppose that high could be valuable for a damage mod? Keeping in mind Rattati made an offhand comment about buffing them. Minmatar Commando sees no change though. Oh absolutely! I always run a damage mod on my Commandos currently. With my already 10% class bonus. And with my max proficiency proto weapons. I don't care if I already kill faster than most suits, I can always kill faster Amarr are the good guys Their way of the Commando seems right and noble
axINVICTUSxa DETHDEALERS RISE of LEGION 187	Posted - 2014.07.16 23:18:00 - [1422] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Spademan wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Spademan wrote: News: Possible slot layout changes, Amarr get more lows in general and Gallente slightly less (by like 1 or two) Caldari Assault getting a 5/2 layout and Amarr getting a 2/5 for example. Things like that. The only real change for the Amarr Commando would be a change at standard from 1H/1L to 0H/2L and a change at advanced from 1H/2L to 0H/3L. Certainly makes the prototype suit feel a little less desirable given you have all your low slots available at advanced (albeit not the CPU/PG). Don't suppose that high could be valuable for a damage mod? Keeping in mind Rattati made an offhand comment about buffing them. Minmatar Commando sees no change though. Oh absolutely! I always run a damage mod on my Commandos currently. With my already 10% class bonus. And with my max proficiency proto weapons. I don't care if I already kill faster than most suits, I can always kill faster I admit there's a difference when I put compex Damage mods on my gk.0 When running an Allotek Burst with a Complex Dmg Mod my TTK seems drastically smaller than when running a GK-13 Burst and a Basic Dmg Mod. Which of course, goes without saying. Why the hell is the Allotek so expensive though >.< Not like I lose enough of it to not be able to restock though :P (Thank you Comrade Aero and True) Wherever the Wind (Aero) might take me, may it ever be True, for the way of the Commando is noble and right.
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 5286	Posted - 2014.07.17 01:16:00 - [1423] - Quote Ok so I read the previous posts but I'm still a little confused....can someone explain to me where these changes came from? (Whose idea was it) I can use all 4 proto commandos ^.^ CCP, at least fix my ck.0 commandos colour scheme...he looks like the Michelin man
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8802	Posted - 2014.07.17 03:53:00 - [1424] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: Ok so I read the previous posts but I'm still a little confused....can someone explain to me where these changes came from? (Whose idea was it) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=168380&find=unread Amarr are the good guys Their way of the Commando seems right and noble
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11957	Posted - 2014.07.17 04:17:00 - [1425] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Spademan wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Spademan wrote: News: Possible slot layout changes, Amarr get more lows in general and Gallente slightly less (by like 1 or two) Caldari Assault getting a 5/2 layout and Amarr getting a 2/5 for example. Things like that. The only real change for the Amarr Commando would be a change at standard from 1H/1L to 0H/2L and a change at advanced from 1H/2L to 0H/3L. Certainly makes the prototype suit feel a little less desirable given you have all your low slots available at advanced (albeit not the CPU/PG). Don't suppose that high could be valuable for a damage mod? Keeping in mind Rattati made an offhand comment about buffing them. Minmatar Commando sees no change though. Oh absolutely! I always run a damage mod on my Commandos currently. With my already 10% class bonus. And with my max proficiency proto weapons. I don't care if I already kill faster than most suits, I can always kill faster I told you that Tank is not mutually exclusive of Gank! "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 5286	Posted - 2014.07.17 14:17:00 - [1426] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Ok so I read the previous posts but I'm still a little confused....can someone explain to me where these changes came from? (Whose idea was it) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=168380&find=unread Thanks As long as the commandos aren't getting nerfed to kingdom come (wich from what I've read, they aren't) I'm fine I can use all 4 proto commandos ^.^ CCP, at least fix my ck.0 commandos colour scheme...he looks like the Michelin man
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 2980	Posted - 2014.08.15 00:17:00 - [1427] - Quote Well, looks like the thread's dead. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 408	Posted - 2014.08.15 00:31:00 - [1428] - Quote Yea Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"
Spademan Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3922	Posted - 2014.10.02 20:36:00 - [1429] - Quote So it's a bit of a necro, but I figure it's a decent enough way to contact 'mandos for this I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Atiim 12685	Posted - 2014.10.03 16:08:00 - [1430] - Quote Spademan wrote: So it's a bit of a necro, but I figure it's a decent enough way to contact 'mandos for this Thanks for the link. I'll try to post my thoughts later. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND

Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 13544	Posted - 2014.11.09 21:19:00 - [1431] - Quote Anyone here want to help revive the old Commando channel? The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14334	Posted - 2014.11.09 21:22:00 - [1432] - Quote Atiim wrote: Anyone here want to help revive the old Commando channel? No #thisisnotaregistry "HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGÇª. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this." -Kador Ouryon
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 13544	Posted - 2014.11.09 21:24:00 - [1433] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: Anyone here want to help revive the old Commando channel? No #thisisnotaregistry I know it's #notaregistry. :\| All I want to do is play with other Commandos. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1758	Posted - 2014.11.09 22:47:00 - [1434] - Quote caldari commando is not worth useing till advanced level. all commando need +1 slot to their primary tank need a smaller hitbox then sentinels need to be faster then sentinel [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Spademan Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4438	Posted - 2014.11.09 22:50:00 - [1435] - Quote Atiim wrote: Anyone here want to help revive the old Commando channel? I'd love to, it may only be a secondary role but I love rolling in a Commando squad. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9145	Posted - 2014.11.10 06:42:00 - [1436] - Quote I don't even have a single skill point is commandos anymore. I am a disgrace. I have failed you all. Amarr are the good guys Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
Aeon Amadi Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7135	Posted - 2014.11.10 07:59:00 - [1437] - Quote Ran Prototype Gallente Commando for a while. Decided it wasn't viable and stopped using it. Long-Term Roadmap Question -EVERYTHING-
calvin b Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2227	Posted - 2014.11.10 09:09:00 - [1438] - Quote I run commando along with my many other roles each day. I have Gal and Armarr Commando. Can the other voices in other peoples minds hear my voices in my head????
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1609	Posted - 2014.11.10 09:20:00 - [1439] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Ran Prototype Gallente Commando for a while. Decided it wasn't viable and stopped using it. one of the best commandos is not viable? well...
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 5340	Posted - 2015.01.13 01:31:00 - [1440] - Quote pulls out nanoinjector revived thread King of Commandos - And Dust's #1 best dressed merc. Destiny name - FireofPrometheus PSN- jcptmo8055



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