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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
1011
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Posted - 2014.01.15 02:50:00 -
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Ruthless Lee wrote:You know what I want to see? Scout/Commando squads. Six mercs, three scouts, three commandos.
This needs to happen.
I second that....
What's that like.... rabid wolves and pissed off grizzlys? Or is that just one squad tuggin' on superman's cape and spitting into the wind...? |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
2928
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Posted - 2014.01.15 02:58:00 -
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Matticus Monk wrote:Ruthless Lee wrote:You know what I want to see? Scout/Commando squads. Six mercs, three scouts, three commandos.
This needs to happen. I second that.... What's that like.... rabid wolves and pissed off grizzlys? Or is that just one squad tuggin' on superman's cape and spitting into the wind...? I'm going to say the first analogy is probably more accurate....and I want to do this too.....
everyone runs proto commando or scout with proto weapons
Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // D-Uni instructor
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
5091
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Posted - 2014.01.15 03:01:00 -
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Hey guys, I'm working on a skill guide for Commandos. Not sure about the other racial commandos and what new slot layouts we may all possibly get, but I can make one with the general idea. Would definitely like feedback from other Commandos, this will most likely go through some revisions. The skills listed within each segment are not in the order you should skill them, but the order they showed up in the fitting tool.
1 million SP - First week Dropsuit Command 3 [Race] Heavy 3 [Race] Commando 1 Dropsuit Upgrades 3 Dropsuit Armor Upgrades 3 Dropsuit Shield Upgrades 2 Dropsuit Core Upgradess 2 Preferred Equipment 1 Dropsuit Electronics 1 Dropsuit Engineering 1 Weaponry 3 Light Weapon Operations 3 1st Preferred Weapon Operations 1 2nd Preferred Weapon Operations 1
3 million SP - Getting on a roll [Race] Commando 3 Dropsuit Armor Upgrades 4 Dropsuit Shield Upgrades 4 Dropsuit Armor Repair Systems 3 Dropsuit Electronics 3 Dropsuit Engineering 3 Handheld Weapon Upgrades 3 1st Preferred Weapon 3 2nd Preferred Weapon 3
5 million SP - 1st milestone Dropsuit Electronics 4 Dropsuit Engineering 4 Preferred Equipment 3 1st Preferred Weapon 5 2nd Preferred Weapon 5
10 million SP - The grind [Race] Commando 5 Dropsuit Electronics 5 Dropsuit Engineering 5 1st Preferred Weapon Proficiency 4 2nd Preferred Weapon Proficiency 4
15 million SP - Addressing weaknesses Dropsuit Upgrades 4 Dropsuit Armor Repair Systems 5 Dropsuit Biotic Upgrades 4 Dropsuit Core Upgrades 4 Hacking Systems 4 Shield Extension 5 or Shield Recharging 5 Handheld Weapon Upgrades 5 1st Preferred Weapon Ammo Capacity 4 1st Preferred Weapon Rapid Reload 2nd Preferred Weapon Ammo Capacity 4 2nd Preferred Weapon Rapid Reload
20 million SP - Approaching Perfection Dropsuit Armor Upgrades 5 Dropsuit Shield Upgrades 5 Dropsuit Core Upgrades 5 Dropsuit Biotics Upgrades 5 Preferred Equipment 5 Systems Hacking 5 1st Preferred Weapon Rapid Reload 4 1st Preferred Weapon Fitting Optimization 4 2nd Preferred Weapon Rapid Reload 4 2nd Preferred Weapon Fitting Optimization 4
26 million SP - Badass Certified Light Weapons Operation 5 1st Preferred Weapon Ammo Capacity 5 1st Preferred Weapon Rapid Reload 5 1st Preferred Weapon Proficiency 5 1st Preferred Weapon Fitting Optimization 5 2nd Preferred Weapon Ammo Capacity 5 2nd Preferred Weapon Rapid Reload 5 2nd Preferred Weapon Proficiency 5 2nd Preferred Weapon Fitting Optimization 5
ARC Commander
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
5706
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Posted - 2014.01.15 03:13:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Hey guys, I'm working on a skill guide for Commandos. Not sure about the other racial commandos and what new slot layouts we may all possibly get, but I can make one with the general idea. Would definitely like feedback from other Commandos, this will most likely go through some revisions. The skills listed within each segment are not in the order you should skill them, but the order they showed up in the fitting tool.
1 million SP - First week Dropsuit Command 3 [Race] Heavy 3 [Race] Commando 1 Dropsuit Upgrades 3 Dropsuit Armor Upgrades 3 Dropsuit Shield Upgrades 2 Dropsuit Core Upgradess 2 Preferred Equipment 1 Dropsuit Electronics 1 Dropsuit Engineering 1 Weaponry 3 Light Weapon Operations 3 1st Preferred Weapon Operations 1 2nd Preferred Weapon Operations 1
3 million SP - Getting on a roll [Race] Commando 3 Dropsuit Armor Upgrades 4 Dropsuit Shield Upgrades 4 Dropsuit Armor Repair Systems 3 Dropsuit Electronics 3 Dropsuit Engineering 3 Handheld Weapon Upgrades 3 1st Preferred Weapon 3 2nd Preferred Weapon 3
5 million SP - 1st milestone Dropsuit Electronics 4 Dropsuit Engineering 4 Preferred Equipment 3 1st Preferred Weapon 5 2nd Preferred Weapon 5
10 million SP - The grind [Race] Commando 5 Dropsuit Electronics 5 Dropsuit Engineering 5 1st Preferred Weapon Proficiency 4 2nd Preferred Weapon Proficiency 4
15 million SP - Addressing weaknesses Dropsuit Upgrades 4 Dropsuit Armor Repair Systems 5 Dropsuit Biotic Upgrades 4 Dropsuit Core Upgrades 4 Hacking Systems 4 Shield Extension 5 or Shield Recharging 5 Handheld Weapon Upgrades 5 1st Preferred Weapon Ammo Capacity 4 1st Preferred Weapon Rapid Reload 2nd Preferred Weapon Ammo Capacity 4 2nd Preferred Weapon Rapid Reload
20 million SP - Approaching Perfection Dropsuit Armor Upgrades 5 Dropsuit Shield Upgrades 5 Dropsuit Core Upgrades 5 Dropsuit Biotics Upgrades 5 Preferred Equipment 5 Systems Hacking 5 1st Preferred Weapon Rapid Reload 4 1st Preferred Weapon Fitting Optimization 4 2nd Preferred Weapon Rapid Reload 4 2nd Preferred Weapon Fitting Optimization 4
26 million SP - Badass Certified Light Weapons Operation 5 1st Preferred Weapon Ammo Capacity 5 1st Preferred Weapon Rapid Reload 5 1st Preferred Weapon Proficiency 5 1st Preferred Weapon Fitting Optimization 5 2nd Preferred Weapon Ammo Capacity 5 2nd Preferred Weapon Rapid Reload 5 2nd Preferred Weapon Proficiency 5 2nd Preferred Weapon Fitting Optimization 5
Sweet being a badass only takes a full year........
Admittedly once you get a Commando like that skilled you can pick up any infantry role with little trouble to a very high standard.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
5096
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Posted - 2014.01.15 03:19:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: Sweet being a badass only takes a full year........
Admittedly once you get a Commando like that skilled you can pick up any infantry role with little trouble to a very high standard.
But I mean, that is maxing out every possible skill that could help the Commando even slightly. I sort of like the time frame to reach that, 1 year.
And to be fair, the vast majority of these skills carry over to other roles and would not need to be retrained.
ARC Commander
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
5709
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Posted - 2014.01.15 04:00:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:True Adamance wrote: Sweet being a badass only takes a full year........
Admittedly once you get a Commando like that skilled you can pick up any infantry role with little trouble to a very high standard.
But I mean, that is maxing out every possible skill that could help the Commando even slightly. I sort of like the time frame to reach that, 1 year. And to be fair, the vast majority of these skills carry over to other roles and would not need to be retrained.
Anyone who does reach that level would in all honesty be an absolute brick in the field, able to adapt to changing battlefield situations with strategically fit load outs to counter any threat that approaches.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
5104
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Posted - 2014.01.15 04:36:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:True Adamance wrote: Sweet being a badass only takes a full year........
Admittedly once you get a Commando like that skilled you can pick up any infantry role with little trouble to a very high standard.
But I mean, that is maxing out every possible skill that could help the Commando even slightly. I sort of like the time frame to reach that, 1 year. And to be fair, the vast majority of these skills carry over to other roles and would not need to be retrained. Anyone who does reach that level would in all honesty be an absolute brick in the field, able to adapt to changing battlefield situations with strategically fit load outs to counter any threat that approaches. And to think a lot of the players have already reached that point, just not necessarily with the Commando. How much SP do the top guys have by now? 40 million at least.
ARC Commander
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T'orq
DUST University Ivy League
140
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Posted - 2014.01.15 05:03:00 -
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If we do end up getting a respec I will probably follow this guide. Good work Aero, very nice plan
Thanjac-
Proud Member of Commando 6
ARC Instructor
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
5106
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Posted - 2014.01.15 05:05:00 -
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T'orq wrote:If we do end up getting a respec I will probably follow this guide. Good work Aero, very nice plan May I ask how far along the plan you would be, if you got all your SP returned to unallocated?
ARC Commander
CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
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T'orq
DUST University Ivy League
140
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Posted - 2014.01.15 05:08:00 -
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Right in between 1st milestone and the grind. I have something like 8.3 million sp
Thanjac-
Proud Member of Commando 6
ARC Instructor
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T'orq
DUST University Ivy League
141
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Posted - 2014.01.15 05:11:00 -
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I will only do one preferred equipment though and use that sp for RE's * possibly
Thanjac-
Proud Member of Commando 6
ARC Instructor
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
5108
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Posted - 2014.01.15 05:14:00 -
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T'orq wrote:Right in between 1st milestone and the grind. I have something like 8.3 million sp Ugh, The Grind! I was going to say that this guide is just that, a guideline. I have a few other ideas for when to focus on what skills, but not for The Grind. That bit is pretty inflexible in my opinion, and definitely the worst part of the process. You could argue Approaching Perfection or Badass Certified are worse grinds, but at least during those stages you already have a really good fit to use.
But hey, considering that there is still some time before 1.8, including an accelerated SP week, you should be able to complete all of The Grind upon the respec.
ARC Commander
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T'orq
DUST University Ivy League
141
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Posted - 2014.01.15 05:15:00 -
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Hey Aero, I don't see where you take shield and armor upgrades to 5. Do you just leave them at 4?
Thanjac-
Proud Member of Commando 6
ARC Instructor
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
5108
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Posted - 2014.01.15 05:22:00 -
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T'orq wrote:Hey Aero, I don't see where you take shield and armor upgrades to 5. Do you just leave them at 4? Technically, you don't need shield and armor upgrades up to anything past 1 to unlock everything. However, there is a 5% bonus to respective HP type per level. Since Commando is a heavy, this does add up. Do note though that I have them upgraded to Level 4 at the 3 million SP mark, and don't upgrade them to Level 5 until the 20 million mark. The SP gap from Level 4 to 5 is the same as Level 0 to 4, so really you don't get anything up to 5 until the end, unless you need it to unlock something.
Also specifically concerning the Amarr Commando, since it's base armor and base shield are both 325, each level from the skills give you 16.25 extra HP. So when I upgrade these skills, I alternate. Armor 1, Shield 1, Armor 2, Shield 2, and so on. I have a friend who went all the way to Armor 5 before touching shield, but with the same amount of SP you could of got Armor 4 and Shield 4 and thus more HP.
ARC Commander
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T'orq
DUST University Ivy League
141
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Posted - 2014.01.15 05:28:00 -
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Okay. And I see what you are talking about, I just didn't see them was all
Thanjac-
Proud Member of Commando 6
ARC Instructor
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
5111
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Posted - 2014.01.15 06:32:00 -
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The following has been added to my SP guide,
Quote:Also as a note, I highly encourage you to use the following tool, brought to you by Cyrus Grevare.http://www.protofits.com/fittingsThere are somethings that simply are not possible to fit, thus making some of these skills unnecessary. For instance, in a fit that I am eyeing currently, there would be no need for me to spend any points into Weapon Fitting Optimization for either of my selected weapons.
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
5111
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Posted - 2014.01.15 07:00:00 -
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A little more analysis on the fitting tool, the fit I am eyeing is
Commando ak.0 CRD-9 Assault Scrambler Rifle ELM-7 Laser Rifle Complex Light Damage Modifier Complex Shield Extender Complex Armor Repairer A-19 Stable Active Scanner
Taking away all of the unnecessary fitting skills, plus the proto equipment, results in Scrambler Rifle Fitting Optimization 5 0 Laser Rifle Fitting Optimization 5 0 Light Weapons Operation 5 4 Active Scanner 5 3
Which puts it at 22 million SP instead of 26 million SP to get Badass Certified. Then if I take it a step further and move all the skills that don't unlock anything down from 5 to 4, it results in Laser Rifle Proficiency 5 4 Laser Rifle Ammo Capacity 5 4 Laser Rifle Rapid Reload 5 4 Scrambler Rifle Proficiency 5 4 Scrambler Rifle Ammo Capacity 5 4 Scrambler Rifle Rapid Reload 5 4 Dropsuit Armor Upgrades 5 4 Dropsuit Shield Upgrades 5 4 Dropsuit Biotic Upgrades 5 4 Hacking Systems 5 4
It brings the SP requirement all the way down to 16 million. This is what I will likely do when the respec hits, as it gives me a near perfect fitting and leaves me with 2-3 million SP (depending on when 1.8 hits) to use to pursue other interests, such as the Amarr scout.
ARC Commander
CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
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T'orq
DUST University Ivy League
144
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Posted - 2014.01.15 13:18:00 -
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nice
Thanjac-
Proud Member of Commando 6
ARC Instructor
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Aker Ghaal
Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd
2
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Posted - 2014.01.15 13:37:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:A little more analysis on the fitting tool, the fit I am eyeing is Commando ak.0 CRD-9 Assault Scrambler Rifle ELM-7 Laser Rifle Complex Light Damage Modifier Complex Shield Extender Complex Armor Repairer A-19 Stable Active Scanner Taking away all of the unnecessary fitting skills, plus the proto equipment, results in Scrambler Rifle Fitting Optimization 5 0 Laser Rifle Fitting Optimization 5 0 Light Weapons Operation 5 4 Active Scanner 5 3 Which puts it at 22 million SP instead of 26 million SP to get Badass Certified. Then if I take it a step further and move all the skills that don't unlock anything down from 5 to 4, it results in Laser Rifle Proficiency 5 4 Laser Rifle Ammo Capacity 5 4 Laser Rifle Rapid Reload 5 4 Scrambler Rifle Proficiency 5 4 Scrambler Rifle Ammo Capacity 5 4 Scrambler Rifle Rapid Reload 5 4 Dropsuit Armor Upgrades 5 4 Dropsuit Shield Upgrades 5 4 Dropsuit Biotic Upgrades 5 4 Hacking Systems 5 4 It brings the SP requirement all the way down to 16 million. This is what I will likely do when the respec hits, as it gives me a near perfect fitting and leaves me with 2-3 million SP (depending on when 1.8 hits) to use to pursue other interests, such as the Amarr scout.
Ello! Just stumbled upon this forum post ( Commando registry) and I would like to be added to the registry if that is possible? Have been running with commando suits ever since they came out although don't think I have any reputation to speak of in terms of my prowess with em hehe.
On a side note Aero, with regards to the quote that is pretty much what I am rolling with now in tandem with a mix of Gallante and Gurista themed suits. Although I do lack a few of those skills you mention however i think I am preforming admirably albeit I am still never going to be satisfied with my current skill level haha!
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
5121
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Posted - 2014.01.15 15:16:00 -
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Added you to the registry. And yes, I've been running Commando ever since it was released on July 2nd as part of Uprising 1.2
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Aker Ghaal
Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd
4
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Posted - 2014.01.15 17:15:00 -
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Thanks mate! I appreciate it ! Although yeah I have seen that you have been quite vocal and supportive of the commandos, keep up the good fight! |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
2939
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Posted - 2014.01.15 20:24:00 -
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Like my new sig :D
Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // D-Uni instructor
A Balac's and a Thale's.....What's on your commando?
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
5726
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Posted - 2014.01.15 20:41:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Like my new sig :D
You are insane you know that right?
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
2943
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Posted - 2014.01.15 20:42:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Like my new sig :D You are insane you know that right? Yup....and I'm also the merc that purposely flies his incubus backwards so he can shoot the viper chasing him
Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // D-Uni instructor
A Balac's and a Thale's.....What's on your commando?
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T'orq
DUST University Ivy League
151
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Posted - 2014.01.15 20:43:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:T'orq wrote:Right in between 1st milestone and the grind. I have something like 8.3 million sp Ugh, The Grind! I was going to say that this guide is just that, a guideline. I have a few other ideas for when to focus on what skills, but not for The Grind. That bit is pretty inflexible in my opinion, and definitely the worst part of the process. You could argue Approaching Perfection or Badass Certified are worse grinds, but at least during those stages you already have a really good fit to use. But hey, considering that there is still some time before 1.8, including an accelerated SP week, you should be able to complete all of The Grind upon the respec.
That is my goal. =P but college starts next Wednesday.=/
Thanjac-
Proud Member of Commando 6
ARC Instructor
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
2943
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Posted - 2014.01.15 20:46:00 -
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T'orq wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:T'orq wrote:Right in between 1st milestone and the grind. I have something like 8.3 million sp Ugh, The Grind! I was going to say that this guide is just that, a guideline. I have a few other ideas for when to focus on what skills, but not for The Grind. That bit is pretty inflexible in my opinion, and definitely the worst part of the process. You could argue Approaching Perfection or Badass Certified are worse grinds, but at least during those stages you already have a really good fit to use. But hey, considering that there is still some time before 1.8, including an accelerated SP week, you should be able to complete all of The Grind upon the respec. That is my goal. =P but college starts next Wednesday.=/ I have exams starting next Wednesday so I won't be on as much until the Wednesday a week from then
Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // D-Uni instructor
A Balac's and a Thale's.....What's on your commando?
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T'orq
DUST University Ivy League
152
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Posted - 2014.01.15 20:50:00 -
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Well, I don't ( Thank goodness) I am just starting lol
Thanjac-
Proud Member of Commando 6
ARC Instructor
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
5728
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Posted - 2014.01.15 20:51:00 -
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T'orq wrote:Well, I don't ( Thank goodness) I am just starting lol
Ah Uni....was there for a couple of years....never thought I'd end up where I did in the long run.....
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
2944
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Posted - 2014.01.15 20:53:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:T'orq wrote:Well, I don't ( Thank goodness) I am just starting lol Ah Uni....was there for a couple of years....never thought I'd end up where I did in the long run..... You never do expect where you will end up.....
Commando 6 // A.R.C Commander // D-Uni instructor
A Balac's and a Thale's.....What's on your commando?
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
5153
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Posted - 2014.01.15 23:45:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:True Adamance wrote:T'orq wrote:Well, I don't ( Thank goodness) I am just starting lol Ah Uni....was there for a couple of years....never thought I'd end up where I did in the long run..... You never do expect where you will end up..... That is sort of true with EVE and Dust as well.
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