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Zaaeed Massani
RisingSuns
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Posted - 2014.04.05 18:36:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Well I can now say I love the minmando....it's a dream in urban combat....
And on an unrelated note, I can confirm the CR is OP as all flip
No moreso than the Scrambler Rifle imho...
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
4175
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Posted - 2014.04.05 18:40:00 -
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Zaaeed Massani wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Well I can now say I love the minmando....it's a dream in urban combat....
And on an unrelated note, I can confirm the CR is OP as all flip No moreso than the Scrambler Rifle imho... Sort of....the ScR seriosuly lacks against armour so when taking down those gal and amarr sentinels, your going to have some issues.
The CR just eats shields and armour for breakfast.
Here is one of many scenarios I was in:
Hiding behind a truck and a sentinel waddles around the corner full health (amarr adv sentinel)
I'm in a basic min commando with only 150 armour remaining.
Sentinel proceeds to take me down to 50 ish armour with his HMG.
I wreck his face in with my BASIC combat rifle and walk away with 67 armour left.
Ps. This scenario took about 2 seconds to go from start to finish....
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Zaaeed Massani
RisingSuns
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Posted - 2014.04.05 18:45:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Zaaeed Massani wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Well I can now say I love the minmando....it's a dream in urban combat....
And on an unrelated note, I can confirm the CR is OP as all flip No moreso than the Scrambler Rifle imho... Sort of....the ScR seriosuly lacks against armour so when taking down those gal and amarr sentinels, your going to have some issues. The CR just eats shields and armour for breakfast. Here is one of many scenarios I was in: Hiding behind a truck and a sentinel waddles around the corner full health (amarr adv sentinel) I'm in a basic min commando with only 150 armour remaining. Sentinel proceeds to take me down to 50 ish armour with his HMG. I wreck his face in with my BASIC combat rifle and walk away with 67 armour left. Ps. This scenario took about 2 seconds to go from start to finish....
Teach me to aim like you, then. Because I have some moments where I almost win such an engagement...but the number of times I actually do it is somewhere between zero and once per update.
EDIT: I actually haven't played much in the past few days...I just hit level 5 in my CR and prof 1...so I suspect as I get more points in CR proficiency and Commando suits I will notice my firepower increase significantly.
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
4175
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Posted - 2014.04.05 18:48:00 -
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Zaaeed Massani wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Zaaeed Massani wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Well I can now say I love the minmando....it's a dream in urban combat....
And on an unrelated note, I can confirm the CR is OP as all flip No moreso than the Scrambler Rifle imho... Sort of....the ScR seriosuly lacks against armour so when taking down those gal and amarr sentinels, your going to have some issues. The CR just eats shields and armour for breakfast. Here is one of many scenarios I was in: Hiding behind a truck and a sentinel waddles around the corner full health (amarr adv sentinel) I'm in a basic min commando with only 150 armour remaining. Sentinel proceeds to take me down to 50 ish armour with his HMG. I wreck his face in with my BASIC combat rifle and walk away with 67 armour left. Ps. This scenario took about 2 seconds to go from start to finish.... Teach me to aim like you, then. Because I have some moments where I almost win such an engagement...but the number of times I actually do it is somewhere between zero and once per update. Lol, I strafe into my targets.....and spam the trigger :p
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1151
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Posted - 2014.04.05 18:52:00 -
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While I'm a scout first and foremost, I run an adv min commando regularly now as well, along with the min sentinel. Am I applicable to the list?
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Zaaeed Massani
RisingSuns
104
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Posted - 2014.04.05 18:52:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Zaaeed Massani wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Zaaeed Massani wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Well I can now say I love the minmando....it's a dream in urban combat....
And on an unrelated note, I can confirm the CR is OP as all flip No moreso than the Scrambler Rifle imho... Sort of....the ScR seriosuly lacks against armour so when taking down those gal and amarr sentinels, your going to have some issues. The CR just eats shields and armour for breakfast. Here is one of many scenarios I was in: Hiding behind a truck and a sentinel waddles around the corner full health (amarr adv sentinel) I'm in a basic min commando with only 150 armour remaining. Sentinel proceeds to take me down to 50 ish armour with his HMG. I wreck his face in with my BASIC combat rifle and walk away with 67 armour left. Ps. This scenario took about 2 seconds to go from start to finish.... Teach me to aim like you, then. Because I have some moments where I almost win such an engagement...but the number of times I actually do it is somewhere between zero and once per update. Lol, I strafe into my targets.....and spam the trigger :p
Hmph.
I also suppose I feel squishy because I run strictly Minmatar Commando...coming from brick-tanked Gallente suits it feels a little rough.
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
4175
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Posted - 2014.04.05 18:54:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:While I'm a scout first and foremost, I run an adv min commando regularly now as well, along with the min sentinel. Am I applicable to the list? I guess :p
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
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Posted - 2014.04.05 18:56:00 -
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Zaaeed Massani wrote:Hmph.
I also suppose I feel squishy because I run strictly Minmatar Commando...coming from brick-tanked Gallente suits it feels a little rough. It is a little weird at first but once you get used to it it's pretty good
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1381
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Posted - 2014.04.05 18:59:00 -
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I'm a commado too
Fun > Realism
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
4175
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Posted - 2014.04.05 19:00:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:I'm a commado too Alrighty, I'll make sure aero adds you too
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Zaaeed Massani
RisingSuns
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Posted - 2014.04.05 19:01:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Zaaeed Massani wrote:Hmph.
I also suppose I feel squishy because I run strictly Minmatar Commando...coming from brick-tanked Gallente suits it feels a little rough. It is a little weird at first but once you get used to it it's pretty good
The first time I ran a flank-and-gank build/game (ambush), I went 15-5. The second, I went 13-3. The third, I went 10-2. Granted, not the same numbers you see cloaked shotgun scouts putting up...but it's not half bad, considering I was the only person on my team that went positive in any of those games.
It's quite different than my head-on engagement style i was used to before...but in a good way. It makes me think, and act sneaky.
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
4176
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Posted - 2014.04.05 19:33:00 -
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Zaaeed Massani wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Zaaeed Massani wrote:Hmph.
I also suppose I feel squishy because I run strictly Minmatar Commando...coming from brick-tanked Gallente suits it feels a little rough. It is a little weird at first but once you get used to it it's pretty good The first time I ran a flank-and-gank build/game (ambush), I went 15-5. The second, I went 13-3. The third, I went 10-2. Granted, not the same numbers you see cloaked shotgun scouts putting up...but it's not half bad, considering I was the only person on my team that went positive in any of those games. It's quite different than my head-on engagement style i was used to before...but in a good way. It makes me think, and act sneaky. Thats a pretty solid run with the minmando :)
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Thanjac
Ruthless Chaos
140
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Posted - 2014.04.05 20:03:00 -
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Those are some pretty solid runs
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Zaaeed Massani
RisingSuns
107
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Posted - 2014.04.05 20:05:00 -
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Thanjac wrote:Those are some pretty solid runs
In the 15-5 game my only deaths were to a heavy babysitting the snipers & uplinks I was repeatedly flanking. But eventually i got him.
I definitely had a lot of fun those games, I just need to get in the groove of having that be my normal playstyle.
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Thanjac
Ruthless Chaos
140
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Posted - 2014.04.05 20:40:00 -
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Nice, yeah heavys will tear you apart, but if you get the drop on them they are toast
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Zaaeed Massani
RisingSuns
108
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Posted - 2014.04.05 20:51:00 -
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The damage profile of the CR is helpful lol.
And following up the shield stripping by dumping on them with an assault MD lol.
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Thanjac
Ruthless Chaos
141
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Posted - 2014.04.05 20:56:00 -
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Yeah that works beautifully, sometimes, I am starting to like the AScR/ CR combo. Take the shields and them the armor, and it takes out those pesky caldari scouts which are hard to kill with a CR.
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Awesome Pantaloons
Lokapalas.
424
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Posted - 2014.04.05 22:26:00 -
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You can add me. I went proto Amarr commando before the respec and went back to advanced. It's my new favorite role.
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Oxskull Duncarino
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad.
514
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Posted - 2014.04.05 22:54:00 -
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I got to say I'm feckin delighted with the Gal commando, and can't recommend it enough to people looking at getting into hanging free I've it to proto, but just run the advanced and the Ge38 is a dream on it, with the basic plasma cannon and ELM 7 laser being brilliant secondaries. Even though the laser is only getting a damage buff from proficiency and the complex damage mod I've on, it is melting clones, and the plasma cannon with the suit reload as well as level 4 reload is some of the best fun I've had in a long time.
Lol, the funniest thing though is that I've a speed tanked cloaked commando, with shotgun as primary and AR as secondary, which is fun, but it sits on my suit list directly above my scout setups, giving me some comical moments before the penny drops, of wondering why my scout has such big hands and is moving a bit slower than normal It actually works fairly good once I know I'm using it and don't try to speed like a scout around the place.
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
4178
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Posted - 2014.04.05 23:13:00 -
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Oxskull Duncarino wrote:I got to say I'm feckin delighted with the Gal commando, and can't recommend it enough to people looking at getting into hanging free I've it to proto, but just run the advanced and the Ge38 is a dream on it, with the basic plasma cannon and ELM 7 laser being brilliant secondaries. Even though the laser is only getting a damage buff from proficiency and the complex damage mod I've on, it is melting clones, and the plasma cannon with the suit reload as well as level 4 reload is some of the best fun I've had in a long time. Lol, the funniest thing though is that I've a speed tanked cloaked commando, with shotgun as primary and AR as secondary, which is fun, but it sits on my suit list directly above my scout setups, giving me some comical moments before the penny drops, of wondering why my scout has such big hands and is moving a bit slower than normal It actually works fairly good once I know I'm using it and don't try to speed like a scout around the place. Think we may have just found our 4th and final proto commando....
\o/ yaaaay
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Captain Equestria
Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors Dropsuit Samurai
1
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Posted - 2014.04.06 00:00:00 -
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Zaaeed Massani wrote:
Hmph.
I also suppose I feel squishy because I run strictly Minmatar Commando...coming from brick-tanked Gallente suits it feels a little rough.
You do need to keep into mind the racial bonuses and limitations. I run Minmando, and while the basic is squishy at around 600 hp, you get bonuses to the CR, MD, and other projectile/explosive weapons. It's being debated whether the Swarms also apply under the bonus. You also get better speed, and stamina regen is a beast.
I run this strictly, and I'm having absolute fun flanking (the Minmatar-version suit's purpose). Keep into mind that you won't win a stand-up fight with Amarr or Gallente Commandos, which I've made the mistake of doing. Flank and get the drop on them.
BTW, can I be added to the list? I have CR to 5 and MD to 3; Minmatar Commando to 1. |
Zaaeed Massani
RisingSuns
112
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Posted - 2014.04.06 00:29:00 -
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Captain Equestria wrote:Zaaeed Massani wrote:
Hmph.
I also suppose I feel squishy because I run strictly Minmatar Commando...coming from brick-tanked Gallente suits it feels a little rough.
You do need to keep into mind the racial bonuses and limitations. I run Minmando, and while the basic is squishy at around 600 hp, you get bonuses to the CR, MD, and other projectile/explosive weapons. It's being debated whether the Swarms also apply under the bonus. You also get better speed, and stamina regen is a beast. I run this strictly, and I'm having absolute fun flanking (the Minmatar-version suit's purpose). Keep into mind that you won't win a stand-up fight with Amarr or Gallente Commandos, which I've made the mistake of doing. Flank and get the drop on them. BTW, can I be added to the list? I have CR to 5 and MD to 3; Minmatar Commando to 1.
Yeah it's just a very different playstyle from the head-on assault style I used to run with my brick-tanked Gallente suits.
As I get more and more used to it I'm coming into my own. I have both the MD and CR to prof 1, and Minmatar Commando to 3...just wait till you level up your suits and weapons some more, the damage bonus is spectacular.
I just have to remember that I'm a flanker now, not a head-on kind of guy.
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Captain Equestria
Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors Dropsuit Samurai
1
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Posted - 2014.04.06 03:56:00 -
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Zaaeed Massani wrote:Captain Equestria wrote:Zaaeed Massani wrote:
Hmph.
I also suppose I feel squishy because I run strictly Minmatar Commando...coming from brick-tanked Gallente suits it feels a little rough.
You do need to keep into mind the racial bonuses and limitations. I run Minmando, and while the basic is squishy at around 600 hp, you get bonuses to the CR, MD, and other projectile/explosive weapons. It's being debated whether the Swarms also apply under the bonus. You also get better speed, and stamina regen is a beast. I run this strictly, and I'm having absolute fun flanking (the Minmatar-version suit's purpose). Keep into mind that you won't win a stand-up fight with Amarr or Gallente Commandos, which I've made the mistake of doing. Flank and get the drop on them. BTW, can I be added to the list? I have CR to 5 and MD to 3; Minmatar Commando to 1. Yeah it's just a very different playstyle from the head-on assault style I used to run with my brick-tanked Gallente suits. As I get more and more used to it I'm coming into my own. I have both the MD and CR to prof 1, and Minmatar Commando to 3...just wait till you level up your suits and weapons some more, the damage bonus is spectacular. I just have to remember that I'm a flanker now, not a head-on kind of guy. Heh, so true. I was taken down by an Amarr Commando with lvl 3 Laser Rifle and lvl 5 Mass Driver. There was no path to flank him; the outcroppings ensured he wouldn't be flanked. Many lives were lost that day...the one time I got behind him his driver ripped me to shreds.
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
2111
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Posted - 2014.04.06 08:52:00 -
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Hey guys, I speced my alt into:
Proto Gallente commando. Proto AR. Proto Shotty.
Shield and armor upgrades 4.
The suit and concept feels so fricking cool. But I have a hard time closing the distance to instapop with my shotty (the 10% dmg bonus). I will try cloaking up and see if it could help.
300 shield 700+ armor on my ADV suit.
Gek-38 K5 Specialist shotty 1x Enh dmg mod 2x enh armor plates Compact hive
I really want to make this work. Please help meh!!!
Drop it like its hat.
I´m a fat scout. Do you even lift bro?
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Caca Forte
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
0
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Posted - 2014.04.06 08:58:00 -
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Min Commando (III) Don't run, my MD wants to be your friend |
Thanjac
Ruthless Chaos
142
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Posted - 2014.04.06 12:30:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Hey guys, I speced my alt into: Proto Gallente commando. Proto AR. Proto Shotty. Shield and armor upgrades 4. The suit and concept feels so fricking cool. But I have a hard time closing the distance to instapop with my shotty (the 10% dmg bonus). I will try cloaking up and see if it could help. 300 shield 700+ armor on my ADV suit. Gek-38 K5 Specialist shotty 1x Enh dmg mod 2x enh armor plates Compact hive I really want to make this work. Please help meh!!!
I would have to say, that is a beastly cqc fit. You would have to focus on point defense mor because of how slow you suit is, and a cloak would not help too much because your profile is still going to be pretty high, so let the enemy come to you.
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
4187
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Posted - 2014.04.06 13:50:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Hey guys, I speced my alt into: Proto Gallente commando. Proto AR. Proto Shotty. Shield and armor upgrades 4. The suit and concept feels so fricking cool. But I have a hard time closing the distance to instapop with my shotty (the 10% dmg bonus). I will try cloaking up and see if it could help. 300 shield 700+ armor on my ADV suit. Gek-38 K5 Specialist shotty 1x Enh dmg mod 2x enh armor plates Compact hive I really want to make this work. Please help meh!!! That's an absolute monster of a fit....I'm actually scared of gal commandos now....every time I see a gal heavy, I'm going to run the opposite way and try and get him with my RR
As for tactics, stick with what Thanjac said, let the reds come to you, or you can do the classic heavy in a jeep thing ^.^
Hope to see you in the commando chat, we need to put together a squad if all proto commandos again :D
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.04.06 14:11:00 -
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I think this kind of fit, if you have a repper logi with you, is the ULTIMATE counter to scouts. They will just drop like flies.
Drop it like its hat.
I´m a fat scout. Do you even lift bro?
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Thanjac
Ruthless Chaos
144
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Posted - 2014.04.06 15:33:00 -
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They will, I have done a basic minnando with enhanced reps, enhanced shield extender, with a CR and Shotty and the scoutsndon't know what hit them
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
4192
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Posted - 2014.04.06 15:35:00 -
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Thanjac wrote:They will, I have done a basic minnando with enhanced reps, enhanced shield extender, with a CR and Shotty and the scoutsndon't know what hit them ^ this
Complex extender Basic armour rep
CR MD
18/6/3 (k/a/d)
In nan ambush no less ^.^
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