A stealth fighter loses all radar invisibility while the RAM (radar absorbent material) is damage, a small nick is enough to compromise the entire craft.

So as long as the field and armor is comprised since cloaking is a rather extensive system relying on both systems to mask visual and electronic signatures if the systems is computing repairs and the entire system is unwhole it cannot effectively cloak while the values of the systems changes at the same time but once either system is full up it can then cloak up.

That was the original thought behind the statement.

After applying the rule I played it out in my head a bit on the balance aspects for the game

That most being involving vehicles

Vehicles are already quite powerful and hard to kill the last thing I know players would hate to see is a damaged tank running off and ploof! disappears.

I also wanted as few exceptions (ie commando gets a special penalty for using cloaks for example) on the cloaks so I kept the rule the same for infantry.

I do know that if you do an armor suite tank instead of a focus type tank the hp gain rates are indeed awfully low but the focus ones can repair extensively faster than some people can cope with.

But overall I think the adjusted bullet point of making it only external factors of the HP are counted and not internal ones while adding a new rule about other active modules should make it fair to both vehicles and infantry, vehicles now have to time their wave of opportunity better as some modules have an exhaustively long cooldown and that cloaking does put the vehicle into a state of weakness of sorts as there will be no hardeners or damage, or navigation modules to assist their survival should they be compromised going into cloaks or coming out of it disruptively.

Your destroying my dreams of a cloaked Gallente Commando with AR and PLC but yeah any chance CCP could buff the skill that decreases PLC PG/CPU?

Well, a not so quick bullet list since I keep getting bombarded on twitter. Please do debate points, if it's good enough argument[/u = B00LSHITE ] I can see about adjusting and you also get to understand the bullet point a bit.

[u]My scout expert fixes in bold.

Fitting

• Cloaks must remain equipment. - Ok fine.
• Must be difficult to fit. - OK.
• Is CPU Intensive - Why not, what isn't for a scout.
• Scout suits bonus should be high enough they can go full standard loadout with all other module slots. (this may mean the bonus might have to go much higher) - Cool.
• Higher tier Commando, Lights, Mediums, Assaults, and Logistics would have to downgrade modules to fill all slots - OK fine.

Usage

• Cannot activate while HP values are changing due to external factors (repair tools, damage, nano-hives, supply depots [veh]) - BOOLSHITE. mostly. repair, damage I agree. nanohives and supply depot yes you remain cloaked.
• Cannot activate as long as another active module is cycling, or cooling down - Example?
• A distinctive noise must accompany the cloak and decloak and has proximity priority in playing (in an even max number of sound channels are used, for example you're in a nanohive nest in a middle of a fire fight, the decloak sound still still play but you may not notice it still due to the other noises but it was played regardless.) - BOOLSHITE. Why not make the whole thing out of bells and tin cans. F stealth right?
• Cloak sound range is similar to that of a shotgun - WHAT!? That is so .. just bad. lame. Are we breaking the sonic boom? Why? Defeats stealth. NO.
• Cloaks have an endurance time- Better be long as ****.
• Cloaks have a cooldown time- ok. But skill based.
• Cloaks have a disrupted time (that if cloak is involuntarily activated this is a penalized cooldown before regular starts)- You mean involuntarily deactivated?
• Cooldown can remain relatively short, while the disrupted time must be significantly long enough for a fire fight. -OK. Skill based tho.
• Cloaks are forcibly deactivated by proximity to hackable objects such as vehicles, consoles, and OMS objects. - WHAT?! B00LSHITE. If contact is made ok.
• Cloaks may be forcibly deactivated by proximity to hostile infantry. - SAME AS ABOVE B00LSHITE. IF they shoot you or melee you or contact you OK.
• Because of the enemy proximity disruption meleeing will not break cloak because you cannot get near enough to melee another player before it deactivates. - OUT OF THE BOX B00LSHITE.
• Cloaks might be forcibly deactivated by proximity to other friendly players even if they are cloaked. - If contact is made.
• Suggested forced deactivation range 2 meters. - B00LSHITE. Contact.
• Stressed movements could drain the cloak faster (anything that consumes stamina)- As long as scout's meter is long and strong.
• Can issue squad commands, but not be able to call in vehicles or use orbital support. - Hmm... well.. B00LSHITE.
• Can climb ladders while cloaked- Of Course.
• Cloaks are easily deactivatable on purpose by either turning on another module or swapping to another equipment or weapon, decloaking animation will finish first and cause a short delay between the start of turning visible and being able to take action with the new item selected and this does not cause the disruption timeout. - Only if turned off via very easy and only on purpose. Nothing accidental due to ****** wheel mechanics.
• Expired cloaks do not cause disruption timeout. - um Ok.

Weapons

• No guns, no firing from cloaked, must deactivate then swap, the swap is going to be slightly delayed, if forcibly deactivated will swap to last used weapon. NOPE.
• Cannot use other equipment or activate other equipment such as remote explosives. NOPE.

With regards to RE- what is the difference? Usually a scout is across the map doing something else when he detonates. The first shot, melee, or knife charge/slahs will pop a cloak. Not raising a weapon.

Meta

• Cloak progression should focus on cooldown or duration but not thresholds in shimmer or lowering the condition to which cloaks are disadvantaged.- NOPE. Why hamstring it? Sandbox it.You even contradict yourself in the next two suggestions
• Cloak variants can play around with play trade off with how fast, how long, and shimmer limitation or even fitting (a lightweight fit cloak that is purely utter crap for example) - Sure why not?
• Scout progression should focus on stealthing, damage, speed, sensors, fleeting tanks (high regen short endurance), hacking even but should only very lightly touch on cloaking bonuses. This prevents scouts from being shoe horned into MUST fitting cloaks. - Ok.
• Examples Gal (Light Damage or Profile) Cal (Sensor range or Sensor Strength) Min (Sidearm damage or Hacking) Amarr (speed or base hp) - GET BETTER EXAMPLES.

This of course is working under the assumption that there will be no changes to the scanners and that cloaks might reduce the suit sig by half maybe.

You should wait for that then cause this list is pfffrghrgtt.. a heavy full diaper.