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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:32:00 -
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I highly disagree with a forceful decloak within proximity of an enemy/installation etc. While this would be useful for assaults/logis unless that range is like 1m it will not help scouts, it will not help the scout role besides helping them cross the street which is a waste of an equipment slot. It will also make people just hide by objectives and installations if they think a scout is near like they did when installations had vision.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:54:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:mollerz wrote:I think this (what the 6th cloaking thread?) thread should be considered garbage. What we have here is a CPM bullet pointing a self chosen list that completely disregards scout input.
That's the most medium oriented list of demands I ever saw.
More than half of those bullet points are pure trash meant to nerf the cloak before it even comes out.
pathetic. cloaking has been in eve for 8 years, its the most complained about feature to this day that has yet to be nerfed, namely on the grounds a guy sitting middle of nowhere can never be found ever even if he afks for months on end while cloaked. Only one nerf was ever thrown on it and it only affected non covert ships the most. Knowing that track record its best to bring it in prenerfed. Than pre-lame.
Considering the scout's bonus and role has to deal with the cloak is should NOT come prenerfed. You then bring this already weak role into a position where it's even weaker because it's bonus deals with a piece of a equipment that would be near useless for anything but walking around when nobody is around.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:56:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:mollerz wrote:I think this (what the 6th cloaking thread?) thread should be considered garbage. What we have here is a CPM bullet pointing a self chosen list that completely disregards scout input.
That's the most medium oriented list of demands I ever saw.
More than half of those bullet points are pure trash meant to nerf the cloak before it even comes out.
pathetic. cloaking has been in eve for 8 years, its the most complained about feature to this day that has yet to be nerfed, namely on the grounds a guy sitting middle of nowhere can never be found ever even if he afks for months on end while cloaked. Only one nerf was ever thrown on it and it only affected non covert ships the most. Knowing that track record its best to bring it in prenerfed. Than pre-lame. Considering the scout's bonus and role has to deal with the cloak is should NOT come prenerfed. You then bring this already weak role into a position where it's even weaker because it's bonus deals with a piece of a equipment that would be near useless for anything but walking around when nobody is around. Im trying to get rid of cloaking bonuses on scouts to be honest, Scouts should be viable without them.
Then why have cloaks in the first place if they're just cumbersome and useless?
I do not agree with this direction.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:12:00 -
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I agree that a scout should be able to do it's job with or without a cloak however most considerations of this cloaking is going directly towards other suits and not the scout. It is clearly being balanced/discussed for other frames and not the scout.
Do something about other frames equipping the cloak instead of trying to make it a one cloak fits all.
Give scouts something that's their own instead of the ****** place they have now.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:24:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:I agree that a scout should be able to do it's job with or without a cloak however most considerations of this cloaking is going directly towards other suits and not the scout. It is clearly being balanced/discussed for other frames and not the scout.
Do something about other frames equipping the cloak instead of trying to make it a one cloak fits all.
Give scouts something that's their own instead of the ****** place they have now. Cept this is supposed to be a sandbox game. By doing a full restriction to scouts only is a step in the wrong direction as it would move the game closer to that of class based shooters (we're classless still) While true the heavies do have the only means of equipping heavy weapons we do know that there been previous instances of mediums having heavies, and its not the only platform with heavy weapons (drones have up to 4 heavies and it was suggested drones could be hijacked to kill its brethren) The generic tech 1 items have to be usable by the many but at a cost. The suggestions in this thread are part of that cost. The tech 2 cloak if ever brought in would do away with more of these restrictions and then you can slap that on an equally nich'ed tech 2 suit. However that is another fight overall.
Now you're talking about stuff that doesn't exist and most likely wont exist for the years to come.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
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Posted - 2014.01.10 00:54:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:Heavenly Daughter wrote:Assuming no changes to scanners, no need to have cloaks change a profile size as scout can hide even from proto scanner. That's still up in the air at the moment. SiSi indicates we are going to lose our scan profile bonus (except for the Gallente scout) and there is no news on whether or not our base scan profile is being reduced to compensate. Not to mention scouts are going to have to severely gimp their fits to avoid a proto scanner used by a gal logi with their new bonus.
and if no changes to scan profile/scanners a minmatar scout will NEVER beat a gal logi.
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