Team deploy has absolutely no place outside of Faction Warfare and Planetary Conquest. Putting Team Deploy in high sec pubs would probably be one of the absolute worst things you could possibly do.

Let PC burn, close the broken faucet down and focus on FW.

The only problem I see with this course of action is that the farmers will get to keep their dirty lucre and those who didn't participate in the Blueberry Muffin circlejerk with be locked out of the ranks of being stupid rich like the farmers.

In the interest of the longterm health of Dust, I'd suggest CCP reclaims the Isk distributed thus far via PC. Yes, I understand that this may drive many to ragequit Dust though I honestly feel it it the best thing that can be done currently to ensure the longterm health of Dust and the future player market.

Im not saying team deploy isnt long overdue. What I AM saying is that capability is already present, and devoting precious time to implementing a formal team deploy at this time. With the plethora of other issues that are far more pressing, is where i disagree with pushing for that right now.

dust is 16v16. Before anyone ever deploys into a battle they should at the very least be aware that squads and teams are far superior than randoms.

Its not like dust is groundbreaking in the fact that large numbers mean team-based gameplay.

sorry if 70% of this community has no idea how to play such a game. Perhaps tutorials (lol) or a better system to allow randoms to learn the ways of the jedi...

lets see, in a single cycle (maybe even 2) do u want team deploy.....OR the FW system addressed, memory leaks decreased, overall game latency to improve and the rebels finally having to fess up to the truth that only because of a broken system do they hold all of their area of space?

we are in agreement on what needs to be done, i think its more the prioritizing of those things

I don't agree. My experience is that it works. MAG had it for its version of pubs and it didn't break the game. In fact, it made it much better.

No doubt, I firmly believe that it's the payout system in pubs that has slowly pulled people out of squads and into the redline.

When you can profit more from hiding and going 0-0 with 0 WP and profit more than the dude at the top of the leaderboard you are going to have problems.

Fixing that should be the number 1 priority.

Let PC burn, close the broken faucet down and focus on FW.

The only problem I see with this course of action is that the farmers will get to keep their dirty lucre and those who didn't participate in the Blueberry Muffin circlejerk with be locked out of the ranks of being stupid rich like the farmers.

In the interest of the longterm health of Dust, I'd suggest CCP reclaims the Isk distributed thus far via PC. Yes, I understand that this may drive many to ragequit Dust though I honestly feel it it the best thing that can be done currently to ensure the longterm health of Dust and the future player market.

The inherent flaw of the entire system

couldnt agree more +1

Yes! +1000.

And Team Deploy as fast as possible. Remember that there was a time when there was no squad finder - - yet there were squads. So now have teams without team finder . . .

The players who have participated in Planetary Conquest have done nothing wrong in doing so. They played the game and used the rules set up by CCP to put themselves in the best position possible. The footprints are in the sandbox already and the ISK is in the system.

Even if PC were to be shut off the fairest course of action would be for CCP to sell off the clones at whatever the Genolution purchase price was at that time and refund the cost of any clone pack attacks in process.

Back on topic though the fact that without a player market faction warfare will just wither on the vine and this is the primary issue that needs to be addressed. If the player market can't be implemented in a timely fashion then the stop-gap measure of putting ISK into FW in addition to LP needs to take place.

You bring up the player market and how without it, FW will just "wither on the vine". Once we get it, it will matter very little to anyone who wasn't a farmer if the ISK from PC is left alone.

Would the loss of the ragequitting farmers be a good thing for Dust? It is arguable that it would be, though almost definitely wouldn't be viewed that way. CCP made a mistake similar to paying AFKers for going 0-0-0 with 0 WP in allowing the passive ISK faucet that PC started out as to run for as long as it did. Changing it did nothing to solve the issue of the Blueberry Muffin either, it simply made it even more difficult for newer/smaller corps to get involved in PC without fellating a member of the farmer circlejerk for help with ringing or rental agreements.

Yes, in the shortterm, causing the loss of the farmers though the removal of the PC ISK would appear to be a fatal blow to Dust, though IMHO, it is necessary for the survival of Dust in the longterm. It would create an environment where there would actually be market competition rather than a market dictatorship led by a cabal of farmers turned merchants.

Don't get me wrong, I am not disagreeing that the players who got rich on PC farming were only using the means given to them by CCP to be in the best position. I will however assert my opinion that CCP made a grave mistake in releasing PC as it was and allowing the tools to be so readily exploited. The mistake should be erased for the health and longterm benefit of this game we all love/hate. If people truly had the best intentions for this game and being able to play it for a long time to come, they'd suck it up and deal with returning the ISK. I mean, let's face it, who has truly been happy with the state of PC since its release?

Which is more important to you? Being stupid rich in a game that has a bleak outlook and potential short forecast for lifespan or leveling the imbalanced playing field created by foolish choices made by CCP and potentially greatly extending the potential lifespan of this game we all play??

The answer is obvious if you're not an entitled selfish ****.

IF PC was turned off hardly any players would leave. CCP would just have to put isk in FW and be done with it. CCP says the next version of PC will be totally different so why the hell leave the **** farming on in its current state (disclamer my 5 accounts i am worth close to 1 bill dust isk so i am not being a hater)

I saw it coming as well, but it's still kind of a surprising that Aero, the number one Amarr, the dude with the unflappable spirit has now at least imo has become a bitter vet that has pretty much had it with the game. I squaded up with him earlier and he did about a match and a half before he was fed up...I felt his pain, I wanted to cry for him.

got your skirt all ruffled up kid, dont get so mad about the ass kickings were handing you scrubs