I am just curious. I picked Amarr because when I was reading all the bio's they seemed like the bad guys. I wanted to be a bad guy.

They are vastly more the good guys that any race in New Eden.

I picked them because they are far more different from and real world establishment we have, and more open to creating unique and interesting characters, not to mention everyone and their grandma seems to want to be "freedom junkies" in this game. I mean really, X thousand years in the future and everyone still wants to play the status quo?

Bad guys are Blood raiders, Sansha's Nation, Gurista's, general pirate groups.

They are vastly more the good guys that any race in New Eden.

Amarr cause I liked the golden Merc quarters!

They are vastly more the good guys that any race in New Eden.

I picked them because they are far more different from and real world establishment we have, and more open to creating unique and interesting characters, not to mention everyone and their grandma seems to want to be "freedom junkies" in this game. I mean really, X thousand years in the future and everyone still wants to play the status quo?

Bad guys are Blood raiders, Sansha's Nation, Gurista's, general pirate groups.

Because I am Catholic and I could get behind the Amarr religion aspect.

Also, the Amarr struck me as the most different and unique of the four races.

Gallente = Freedom fighters IE America
Caldari = Mega corporations control everything IE Corporate America
Minmatar = the impoverished and enslaved race IE a third world country

Because I am Catholic and I could get behind the Amarr religion aspect.

Also, the Amarr struck me as the most different and unique of the four races.

Gallente = Freedom fighters IE America
Caldari = Mega corporations control everything IE Corporate America
Minmatar = the impoverished and enslaved race IE a third world country

How so? I'm not at all familiar with EVE lore apart from the very short synopsis I've read in which they are slave-owning jerks.

Actually does anyone have any links or anything that describes the four EVE races in more detail, but at the same time is not a million pages long. Definitely not the EVE wiki pages. More like a more detailed summary.

I messed up when i created my clone. I just picked the first thing I saw. If I had bothered to read, I probably would have picked Amaar.

Way back in EVE when I created my first character I went with Gallente, because I found them the most relateable. From the Gallente I chose Intaki because the description of their personality was similar to my own.

When I created my DUST merc, I went with the same princible, but my character has since then evolved into an Intaki freedom fighter who opposes the Gallente. It's quite interesting.

I wont argue the point here but if you want to run a public contract I can explain it too you. Not to mention slavery by the Amarr is nothing like the historical slavery we know.

It's exactly like the slavery we've known in our histories.

1. They seized slaves on their home world as a means of political and social repression, not to mention extreme profit.

2. They had it codified it in their scripture decades after they began doing it, just to say God was okay with it after the fact.

3. They deliberately destroy native cultures. Only slaves who've converted to the Amarr religion and embraced Amarr society, rejecting their own in the process have even the hope of being freed. That's cultural genocide.

There is nothing unique about the Amarr. Even their religious spin is nothing but a reinterpretation of Islamic Manumission, which allowed for the freeing of 'pious' slaves, but didn't prevent the Arab Slave trade from being absolutely massive.

wished I had read the descriptions... brother in law walked me through creating character, told me race meant nothing, so just hit X a few times..


turns out it was the guy to the left...


funny... but true

anyway DNA tests prove im actually of Amarr origin, and CCP is to blame for the image attached to my name!!

Ha. People prefer the "freedom junkies" as you've coined them because you don't have to look too far to discover the poisonous results of religious extremism, totalitarianism in governments, or elitist exceptionalism in this, our sad reality. You merely picked the faction that combines all three of those cancerous ideals, making the Amarr the most realistic Empire in New Eden, and thus the easiest to hate. The Mimitar and the Gallente with their defense of the individual and promotion of benevolent egalitarianism are pure escapist fantasy, and thus naturally the most popular.

I picked Gallente because I like Iain Bank's The Culture series, and The Gallente as a culture of free-wheeling, equalist party animals remind me of The Culture.

I wont argue but in new eden we do not have the same world politics and you have to ask yourself why the Athenians, historically one of the first great democracies, historically gave up a democratic state for a more dictatorial one during times of hardship.

Also as with the more popular choice I would say that that is simply people playing to social coventions, its boring. I mean more and more within the universe of New Eden I am coming to believe the Amarr are doing the right thing.

Exactly. Just because the giant slaving ships are a golden color doesn't make it all wine and roses.

And I'm here to kill you for trying, doesn't that make you feel better?

Gallente are originarily French people.

Amarr cause I liked the golden Merc quarters!

No its not. Before you make your assertions play a match with me and let me explain.

1. Amarr do not take slaves for social repression purposes nor as a means of profit, it is their belief that though hardship people become closer to God and in doing so they become ready to enter into the Empire, and are emancipated.

2. They had being doing so yes, their development into a theocracy was definitely a legitimization of the proactive, though that doesn't change the intentions of the practice.

3. How can people unite as one people and one group if there are many cultures, simply answer it cannot happen since one culture will always try to hold its self up as special, self important. We are one species, not a division of 4 races.

Soooo.....How many times are you willing to repeat this argument before you give up on the community and let them rot in their ignorance?

I'm genuinely curious.

True Adamance being apologetic about Amarrian slavery, never gets old.

Every faction has negative qualities about it. Accept it young padawan.

I have. We have done horrible things in the name of our God, and we have done great things.

Just like the Federation is the best and worst of all of the empires in one basket.

Only the Caldari, to me, seem to be without flaw, except perhaps for their rough social policies.

Yeah I have to say Caldari are pretty neutral to me.
The only reason why I didn't pick them is because of their fighting style.

Can't stand Caldari tactics.

Every faction has negative qualities about it. Accept it young padawan.

^^
There is exactly one group of "good guys" in new eden: the Sisters of Eve humanitarian organization that cleans up the messes left behind in wars, and even they are involved in subterfuge


Everyone else is a mess of people with their own goals and values, lots of guns, and good intentions

You know what they say about good intentions

OK I don't see why everyone cannot grasp this concept. I'M WELL AWARE THE GALLENTE ORIGINATED IN EUROPE, BUT their ideals of liberty and justice for all (which is in the AMERICAN Pledge of Allegiance) is an AMERICAN way of thinking therefore they COME OFF as AMERICAN.

Broken down enough for you now?

Cladari Prime anyone :P

OK I don't see why everyone cannot grasp this concept. I'M WELL AWARE THE GALLENTE ORIGINATED IN EUROPE, BUT their ideals of liberty and justice for all (which is in the AMERICAN Pledge of Allegiance) is an AMERICAN way of thinking therefore they COME OFF as AMERICAN.

Broken down enough for you now?

France went through its own revolution where they fought for those very same ideals, so it definitely not an exclusively American way of thinking.

Libert+¬, +¬galit+¬, fraternit+¬, and all that.

EDIT - beaten!

lol hey, hey, no need to be p***ed, I'm a peaceful Achura, not an autarchic Deteis

Anyway, you probably think as liberty and justice as american ideals because you're american (I suppose), many countries have a strong representative concept of these ideals as well:

Libert+¿, Egalit+¿, Fraternit+¿.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libert%C3%A9,_%C3%A9galit%C3%A9,_fraternit%C3%A9

Sounds Gallente, doesn't it?

France went through its own revolution where they fought for those very same ideals, so it definitely not an exclusively American way of thinking.

Libert+¬, +¬galit+¬, fraternit+¬, and all that.

EDIT - beaten!

OK I don't see why everyone cannot grasp this concept. I'M WELL AWARE THE GALLENTE ORIGINATED IN EUROPE, BUT their ideals of liberty and justice for all (which is in the AMERICAN Pledge of Allegiance) is an AMERICAN way of thinking therefore they COME OFF as AMERICAN.

Broken down enough for you now?

I picked Caldari because of the industrial culture it had. You must work to get what you want and can't expect things to be given to you. Freeloadering is for the weak! I also like the design of how the ships looked like. It reminded me of the Imperial Empire design from Star Wars. I never liked the government and as someone has said, I never liked Heth either.

Gallente was my second choice because of the whole Space 'Murica ideal. It became distasteful when I learn they were originally French. I didn't want to play as a Frenchie.

Minmatar's design reminded me too much of SVER from MAG. I don't like SVER.

Amarr are clearly villains with their hyper expansion and forced conversion. It also reminded me of SVER for a different reason, they are the largest and control the most.

On a different note. Whenever there is a moral choice system in games, most people will choose the good side every time. I'd provide examples, but I can't find a source at the moment. For now, just look at the FW status right now. The "good guys" are winning.

I picked Caldari because of the industrial culture it had. You must work to get what you want and can't expect things to be given to you. Freeloadering is for the weak! I also like the design of how the ships looked like. It reminded me of the Imperial Empire design from Star Wars. I never liked the government and as someone has said, I never liked Heth either.

Gallente was my second choice because of the whole Space 'Murica ideal. It became distasteful when I learn they were originally French. I didn't want to play as a Frenchie.

Minmatar's design reminded me too much of SVER from MAG. I don't like SVER.

Amarr are clearly villains with their hyper expansion and forced conversion. It also reminded me of SVER for a different reason, they are the largest and control the most.

On a different note. Whenever there is a moral choice system in games, most people will choose the good side every time. I'd provide examples, but I can't find a source at the moment. For now, just look at the FW status right now. The "good guys" are winning.

90% of the time when I choose amarr in fw , my team wins or maybe it could just be me carrying them. :p

but what i have picked up over time is that...

gallente are racist
amar are slaveholders
minmatar are gangs and stuff
caldari are poor

sooooo all these races suck and so im gallente purely from my merc quarters.

but if i had a chance i would be Jove... screw humanity.

I don't want to be offensive but....

That's a poor and generally ignorant set of understandings you have come to.

I read the race bios carefully when i 1st downloaded the game & watched the videos.

this is all MY own views on each of the races based on my own experience in dealing with them and watching their affairs:

1st is my race-
The Gallente Federation: The only truly free society within New Eden, basically all cultures are free to perform and act as their own as long as they do not go against the federation. everyone has a chance at being on the top of the political and military ladder, this includes people with good ideals, views and methods AND those with selfish, evil and tyrannical intentions, but that is what comes with having a free society where nothing is set in stone. The Federation stand for freedom and choice yet within its boarders openly opposing the federation is a bad decision as it is within all boarders of humanity. in my personal experience with the federation, i am standing proud and strong as a defender and bringer of freedom and choice.

2nd is my rival race-
The Caldari State: They fight for profit and honor, basically anyone who offers them the highest price. they take great pride in fighting for the state especially, they are stubborn to take down as they defend their "ideals" with fierceness and numbers, which is probably why we haven't wiped them out yet. they seem to have very strict guidelines on how to conduct social activities not to mention they have no control over how they are to live their lives, the corporations in control have all the power and in their society it seems that the person with the largest wallet gets the largest share. I give respect to the caldari ONLY for the reason that they defend their state with as much determination as i defend my federation.

3rd is the tribal race-
The Minmitar Republic: Everyone can agree with me that they are the most primitive of the 4 races, their equipment large and small are covered in rust which is most likely a symbol used by them to show that they are the hardest working of all the races. they may have inferior technology but that doesn't mean they are the weakest willed of the races, by far they have the strongest home running will iv ever seen, their iron resolve and will is most likely the result of their enslavement by the amarrians centuries ago and they do wish to reclaim their honor they had before the amarrians arrived at their worlds.

4th is the religious fanatics-
The Amarr Empire: I have no good words for this race but i will try to seem as neutral as possible. They do everything in the name of their religion, their god, whether it be extremely highly praised or highly tyrannical, they always give the same statement when asked why they do it, "it is what our god wishes and it shall be done". they seem to be closed minded and extremely paranoid at the thought of personal freedom and individuality as expressed by one True Adamance, be that as it may, their devotion to their religion is very interesting, its in the same way that i fight for the federation, and people fight for the state and why the minmitar fight for their honor back. the fact is that they only accept those that share their specific ideals and beliefs and want to destroy or enslave anything and everything that has different views than they do, which is why they come off as the tyrannical empire of the galaxy, which is also the most realistic of all the empires as it shows the true fearful and brutal nature of humanity is its worst.

ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS ALL MY PERSONAL VIEWS BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE DEALING WITH ALL THE RACES.

4th is the religious fanatics-
The Amarr Empire: I have no good words for this race but i will try to seem as neutral as possible. They do everything in the name of their religion, their god, whether it be extremely highly praised or highly tyrannical, they always give the same statement when asked why they do it, "it is what our god wishes and it shall be done". they seem to be closed minded and extremely paranoid at the thought of personal freedom and individuality as expressed by one True Adamance, be that as it may, their devotion to their religion is very interesting. the fact is that they only accept those that share their specific ideals and beliefs and want to destroy or enslave anything and everything that has different views than they do, which is why they come off as the tyrannical empire of the galaxy, which is also the most realistic of all the empires as it shows the true fearful and brutal nature of humanity is its worst.

ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS ALL MY PERSONAL VIEWS BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE DEALING WITH ALL THE RACES.

That's basically the Amarrian style.

I do what I do because I believe I am doing the right thing. I believe I am helping the peoples of New Eden. I believe that the God you despise so much is real and that this is what he would wish for me, and that because I have the freedom and the power to do something to change this galaxy I will.

You do have a point about how we enslave the other races we encounter, but I honestly think we are doing them a favour. The Ni-Kunni are the perfect examples of that. They were not as developed as many of the other races were, they were extremely pious, and willing to accept Amarrian culture with minimal need for force. In one generation many if not all of the Ni Kunni were freed, and were adopted into the empire, less than 1% remain in bondage.

Comparing them to the Minmatar who were obstinate and rebellious, much longer was needed to soothe their wilfulness but that never came to pass.

((I don't believe the Amarr are humanity at its worst I believe they sit on an axis they are humanity, and humanity through the lens of religion, capable of the greatest good of all the races, but the greatest evil too. I perceive the Gallente as one aspect of the worst humanity has to offer, because they too sit on an axis one that lets them do as they see fit, but what they have achieved with this freedom is complacency, corruption, and a lack of true purpose.

But as always I respect your opinion, and will always debate it if you don't mind the good only fashioned arguments we have.))

I picked Minmatar because I'm a roughneck/blue collar kind of guy. I enjoy my freedom with responsibility, without the intrusion of some governmental, economical, or religious institution telling my what freedoms I am allowed to enjoy.

i hate slavery and other forms of bigotry and feel that those who practice these are a blight upon humanity that should be eradicated.

I'm all for the Tribal lifestyle. I feel man is meant to live in harmony with nature - not destroy it with materialism. Technology is relied upon too much. Certain creature comforts are nice, but one should still be able to survive without them if the need arises.

I picked Minmatar because I'm a roughneck/blue collar kind of guy. I enjoy my freedom with responsibility, without the intrusion of some governmental, economical, or religious institution telling my what freedoms I am allowed to enjoy.

i hate slavery and other forms of bigotry and feel that those who practice these are a blight upon humanity that should be eradicated.

I'm all for the Tribal lifestyle. I feel man is meant to live in harmony with nature - not destroy it with materialism. Technology is relied upon too much. Certain creature comforts are nice, but one should still be able to survive without them if the need arises.

That's basically the Amarrian style.

I do what I do because I believe I am doing the right thing. I believe I am helping the peoples of New Eden. I believe that the God you despise so much is real and that this is what he would wish for me, and that because I have the freedom and the power to do something to change this galaxy I will.

You do have a point about how we enslave the other races we encounter, but I honestly think we are doing them a favour. The Ni-Kunni are the perfect examples of that. They were not as developed as many of the other races were, they were extremely pious, and willing to accept Amarrian culture with minimal need for force. In one generation many if not all of the Ni Kunni were freed, and were adopted into the empire, less than 1% remain in bondage.

Comparing them to the Minmatar who were obstinate and rebellious, much longer was needed to soothe their wilfulness but that never came to pass.

((I don't believe the Amarr are humanity at its worst I believe they sit on an axis they are humanity, and humanity through the lens of religion, capable of the greatest good of all the races, but the greatest evil too. I perceive the Gallente as one aspect of the worst humanity has to offer, because they too sit on an axis one that lets them do as they see fit, but what they have achieved with this freedom is complacency, corruption, and a lack of true purpose.

But as always I respect your opinion, and will always debate it if you don't mind the good only fashioned arguments we have.))

One of the most ignorant yet common generalization I hear about the Amarr is that they are racists. I'm assuming people make this assumption based on their stance on slavery. However, this is not the case at all. The Amarr enslave other races not because of their race, but because of their unenlightened beliefs. Bringing up the Ni-Kunni again, they are a perfect example of the Amarr taking in a foreign race and welcoming them as equals among the Empire.

Thank you, Adamance. Really I wish we had more people role playing Ni-Kunni to spread this message around.

One of the most ignorant yet common generalization I hear about the Amarr is that they are racists. I'm assuming people make this assumption based on their stance on slavery. However, this is not the case at all. The Amarr enslave other races not because of their race, but because of their unenlightened beliefs. Bringing up the Ni-Kunni again, they are a perfect example of the Amarr taking in a foreign race and welcoming them as equals among the Empire.

Amarrian slavery isn't bigotry nor is it discriminatory, they do not believe their slaves are inferior to them.

However in Amarrian culture there are nobility so we do have a caste system in place.
Also the MInmatar suit you then since they were lucky enough to have been situated on a paradise world when they were developing and I assume much like the Intaki Idama and Caldari Ida practitioners they are rather in tune with nature

how long did it take? several centuries, it doesn't take that long for a newly assimilated civilization to be accepted into an open coalition.

I wouldn't say bad guys, imperial aspirations have never been a bad thing, the envy of every peoples.

Good is subjective in New Eden. For example the MInmatar cannot let go of the past. They are trapped in a cycle of brutality and anger made of their own youthful impetuousness, the Gallente are a hive of scum and villainy but also oppressive behind closed doors, the Caldair while good meaning are callous at times, and the Amarr have held to their religions and kept slaves for millennia.

No group is good, no group is bad. People I guess cannot shake the real world concepts they bring into the game.

how long did it take? several centuries, it doesn't take that long for a newly assimilated civilization to be accepted into an open coalition.

One generation with many liberal Holder realising them almost immediately. However you do have to accept that part of the cultural integration is the changes to social structure, religion and superstition, as well as changing public opinion. For the Ni-kunni that was easy (they like many societies in our world were only too willing to adopt foreign beliefs, Check out some of the Portuguese missionaries and mission in feudal japan, they have some very interesting times there) but for some it take much linger based on how much you wish to resist of be obstinate.

(A response to each paragraph)

Imperial aspirations is not something every culture has strives to achieve. Otherwise America would of had more than two empires by the time the Spanish came.

"Good" has always been subjective.

I chose Caldari because working for what you want and things not being handed to you appealed to me. People will usually bring their values when they RP. Part of our nature I suppose.

im willing to be that they weren't slaves for long because they actually shared your beliefs, which also gives more to the fact that the empire is closed minded.

A response to your responses.

1. That remains to have been seen, America was a small fledgling country during the time when imperial aspirations were very much so the thing to do, they broke away for their own personal rights and liberties, but I also believe because such aspirations weren't appealing. I also believe that if such aspirations were the case then they would have stayed with the larger British empire and claimed the new world for that empire, however since all of this is speculation the point and comparison between America and Amarricuh is moot.

2. Yup it always has but that doesn't mean the Gallente and Minmatar are the good guys in new eden, I mean I cannot say the Matari are bad because I don't believe that, but I do believe the Gallente are the counterpart to the empire and while we can be the best and worst of human nature at one time or another, the federation remains the best and worst all at the same time.

3. Good reason. Yup anything you work for is always more valuable than something you have given to you or assume have given to you.

Amarrian slavery isn't bigotry nor is it discriminatory, they do not believe their slaves are inferior to them.

However in Amarrian culture there are nobility so we do have a caste system in place.
Also the MInmatar suit you then since they were lucky enough to have been situated on a paradise world when they were developing and I assume much like the Intaki Idama and Caldari Ida practitioners they are rather in tune with nature

America broke away from England because the king at the time kept on taking away their personal and political liberties and freedoms, they got sick of it and rebelled and we have been a country ever since.

Exactly, Amarr slavery is more equatable to a parent-child relationship. We guide them and make them do things sure, but it's out of love in an effort to grow them into better people. We may act rough at times, but we do not discriminate or view them as inferiors. In fact, we hope that one day they may be closer to the Lord than any of us.

That's not true, it has been a statute that yes the Ni Kunni were religious though they did not share the same kind of religion the True Amarr did, what the have been known to do however is be drawn to the Sani Sabik ways which are a direct violation of our religious mandate, substituting water in their ceremonies for blood.

Close minded?.... because one religion has inducted another into its society? That's is not close minded, more so open minded, If we were dead set on being the only empire around total destruction would be our game, but it is not, it is instead bringing all the peoples of new eden together.

I'm quite tired and have had most of a bottle of wine, so forgive me for misreading the title of this thread as "why did you pick your nose?"

That's not true, it has been a statute that yes the Ni Kunni were religious though they did not share the same kind of religion the True Amarr did, what the have been known to do however is be drawn to the Sani Sabik ways which are a direct violation of our religious mandate, substituting water in their ceremonies for blood.

Close minded?.... because one religion has inducted another into its society? That's is not close minded, more so open minded, If we were dead set on being the only empire around total destruction would be our game, but it is not, it is instead bringing all the peoples of new eden together.

1. That remains to have been seen, America was a small fledgling country during the time when imperial aspirations were very much so the thing to do, they broke away for their own personal rights and liberties, but I also believe because such aspirations weren't appealing. I also believe that if such aspirations were the case then they would have stayed with the larger British empire and claimed the new world for that empire, however since all of this is speculation the point and comparison between America and Amarricuh is moot.

No its not. Before you make your assertions play a match with me and let me explain.

1. Amarr do not take slaves for social repression purposes nor as a means of profit, it is their belief that though hardship people become closer to God and in doing so they become ready to enter into the Empire, and are emancipated.

2. They had being doing so yes, their development into a theocracy was definitely a legitimization of the proactive, though that doesn't change the intentions of the practice.

3. How can people unite as one people and one group if there are many cultures, simply answer it cannot happen since one culture will always try to hold its self up as special, self important. We are one species, not a division of 4 races.

That's the propaganda they use to make themselves appear less malevolent. Their early reasons for taking slaves were driven by politics and profit which they later had codified in their religious text. Basically, it's what they tell the masses in order to get them to play along. No one is actually expected to do which was why was there a massive revolt slaveholder revolt when the Empress released a few million Mimitaur. The religion aspect is mainly lip service.


The original intent of the practice had nothing to do with their religion until it became so widespread that it became part of their religion. They were a eugenic theocracy before they became slaveholders. But the thing is, they were so bad about it that they didn't bother codifying it until after they'd been doing it for years. All the nice bits about improvement through hardship and whatever came about centuries afterward. And as the refusard revolt singularly demonstrates, you weren't supposed to take that part seriously.



Yeah, erasing someone's culture in order to make things more convenient for your own is one of the qualifiers for genocide. Too many real world examples to list. In fantasy and sci-fi any empire that does this is unequivocally the bad guy. Forced assimilation isn't a good thing. Remember the Buddy Bears from Garfield and friends, and how they were dicks and no one liked them? Remember their theme song?

Oh, we are the buddy bears,
we always get along!
We do a little dance,
and then we sing a little song!

If you ever disagree,
It means that you are wrong!
Oh, we are the buddy bears,
We always get along!

I meant the Aztec and the Inca. There were empires before these two existed, but empires kept replacing them in the same general geography of Mesoamerica until the Spanish conquered them. There weren't any empires or really nations anywhere else in America. The same argument can be made to a lesser extent in Southern Africa. The Zulu changed that.

(( Dude who gave you the right to make assetions about and empire that isn't your own, nor one I have come to believe you even know about?

I just going to give up I have spent all to my time trying to explain the aspects of one culture to you people. Yet all I get are the same weak arguments.
PROPAGANDA THIS and WERE THE HEROES that. Most of you people have little to no understand of lore, I apologise to guys who do, I am always inclined to respect and argue with you on friendly terms, but I cant keep doing this in the face of overwhelming ignorance and the same already run through arguments.))

A Gallentean saying the Amarr are under the effects of propaganda is like a raven calling a rook black.

C.R.E.A.M

If you dont know what that means, please exit life stage left

I forgive you but I pick my nose because I am a gold digger.

Capitalist ***** :3

(( Dude who gave you the right to make assetions about and empire that isn't your own, nor one I have come to believe you even know about?

I just going to give up I have spent all to my time trying to explain the aspects of one culture to you people. Yet all I get are the same weak arguments.
PROPAGANDA THIS and WERE THE HEROES that. Most of you people have little to no understand of lore, I apologise to guys who do, I am always inclined to respect and argue with you on friendly terms, but I cant keep doing this in the face of overwhelming ignorance and the same already run through arguments.))

A Gallentean saying the Amarr are under the effects of propaganda is like a raven calling a rook black.

I am just curious. I picked Amarr because when I was reading all the bio's they seemed like the bad guys. I wanted to be a bad guy.

I am just curious. I picked Amarr because when I was reading all the bio's they seemed like the bad guys. I wanted to be a bad guy.

((No, you've been writing slaver apologia for your character and growing annoyed that no one is buying it, and now you're resorting to the traditional battlecry of keyboard warriors and dragon role-players everywhere: "You guys don't get it."

Here's is a history of The Amarr empire. link

Here's a history of slavery in the Amarr Empire. link

I think between the two of us chum, I'm the only one who bothered to do any reading on the subject. Soz.))

The amarr are all racist zealots. :P

Plus their players are jerks.

Hey since when. You used to squad with us. When were we ever jerks to you?

You and Aero were cool.

The rest of the people in PIE...

Especially when you two weren't there to vouch for me.

I'd have felt more comfortable in a room with drunken ignorant shotgun holding rednecks obsessed with defending the border.
Edit: it's funny 'cause I'm mexican.

Really. I do suppose they RP, but then again you have to remember they were capsuleers... and they are all crazy.

Also you are a Matari loyalist..... but that is no excuse.

I wasn't at the time. I did help win a few Amarr fight with you. And it's not like those capsuleers knew of my dust support of the minmatar. They just assumed.

But now I'm more of loyalist than ever. I've seen first hand the arrogance. The words of earning equality are all lies. The Amarr will never fully treat us as equals. You said yourself, they are crazy. And the cluster will do better without them.

Trust in Rust!

They are vastly more the good guys that any race in New Eden.

I picked them because they are far more different from and real world establishment we have, and more open to creating unique and interesting characters, not to mention everyone and their grandma seems to want to be "freedom junkies" in this game. I mean really, X thousand years in the future and everyone still wants to play the status quo?

Bad guys are Blood raiders, Sansha's Nation, Gurista's, general pirate groups.

Dude you were a Minnie through and through when I met you, don't twist my words, I meant that the people of EVE and the people of Dust are vastly different, they have done their things for 10 years and have different expectations, were new to this.

I'm Caldari

because

ISK

I am just curious. I picked Amarr because when I was reading all the bio's they seemed like the bad guys. I wanted to be a bad guy.

You and Aero were cool.

The rest of the people in PIE...

Especially when you two weren't there to vouch for me.

I'd have felt more comfortable in a room with drunken ignorant shotgun holding rednecks obsessed with defending the border.
Edit: it's funny 'cause I'm mexican.

Wow. as i keep reading through this topic i find that some people have grown quite prejudice to other races.

And its not just amar.

Gallante is multi cultural, so it allowed for more intricate background stories.

C.R.E.A.M

If you dont know what that means, please exit life stage left

Caldari, because I think they look the sexiest.

Gallente- seem to much like America (or what we think everyone thinks of America)
Amarr- I almost went with them because I like the idea of following an Empress, but I couldn't agree with slavery.
Minmatar- Are my favorite. They're underdogs, and if anyone has a legitimate reason to fight in a war, it would be to free their fellow slaves. Too bad all of their suits look ugly.

I actually don't like Caldari because I don't like corporate America. However, one of their bloodlines are the Achura.
I love space. I love the way stars look and how stories can be built around constellations. I love how the hubble telescope takes beautiful pictures of novas and galaxies with hues of purple and green and red. I love how planets look from outerspace, and I love the silence of cold and distant alien landscapes.

If I lived in the Eve Universe I would be saving every ISK I could get in the hopes of leaving my mercenary life, buy a ship, and sail into the heavens, away from war, away from slavery, away from greed. There I could dream and be myself. I could see the universe not as we would form it, but as it truly is, an incredibly awe-inspiring force of nature. Then I think I could be happy.

I believe the Achura are the closest to this thinking, despite being part of the terrible Caldari State.
*singing wistfully and quietly* I dream, I dream. Of space and beauty. Of sails beyond the sea...

*dropship door opens and everything is drowned by the sound of gunfire and explosions*
*still singing to herself* I pray tomorrow I'll be free...
*charges into battlefield*

I picked Minmatar because I liked the description of them and then I picked Vherokior bloodline because I feel like that's how I am in real life. Versatile, quiet and I feel like Vherokiors would really be into music, so there would be a lot of musicians in that bloodline. They'd be some bluesy mofos.

I picked Minmatar because I liked the description of them and then I picked Vherokior bloodline because I feel like that's how I am in real life. Versatile, quiet and I feel like Vherokiors would really be into music, so there would be a lot of musicians in that bloodline. They'd be some bluesy mofos.

There are a lot of musicians in that blood line, hell there was an eve kufuffle where one of their top singers got assasinated in gallente space.

I gotta read that. Short story right? Or news?

@True when are you going to make her a clone or just a character for RP and fiction? I know you wrote about her before in IGS. Would definitely be a good character for RP. Not a lot of Ammatar on here.

She is Matari, slave, I suppose then Ammatar. But yeah I will make her tomorrow and train her up some in the ways of the Amarr.

I am just curious. I picked Amarr because when I was reading all the bio's they seemed like the bad guys. I wanted to be a bad guy.

It's all in-character. I doubt anyone actually notices the races of the characters that they're shooting at in this game. Everyone here is an amoral merc out for a paycheck.

I'm an armor guy, and the four-eyed suit looked bad ass, simple

Ewww a Gallentean.... don't touch me sir!

at least minmitar has an eye, you guys are blind lol

We have 3 eyes, caldari have 2.....

Enlightened *****!

Amarr cause that's my EvE race and I love lasers!!

Ever been to an Amarr rave? Lazers and flashing lights everywhere.

I assume there would be nanite injectors handed out at the door, then?
With all those lazerbeams being flashed around, somebody is gonna get hurt

Intaki Syndacate is not supported by the Gallente Federation and there have been battles between the Intaki and the rest of the Gallente, so it does make sense

having 4 eyes, we see everything