OK I don't see why everyone cannot grasp this concept. I'M WELL AWARE THE GALLENTE ORIGINATED IN EUROPE, BUT their ideals of liberty and justice for all (which is in the AMERICAN Pledge of Allegiance) is an AMERICAN way of thinking therefore they COME OFF as AMERICAN.

Broken down enough for you now?

I picked Caldari because of the industrial culture it had. You must work to get what you want and can't expect things to be given to you. Freeloadering is for the weak! I also like the design of how the ships looked like. It reminded me of the Imperial Empire design from Star Wars. I never liked the government and as someone has said, I never liked Heth either.

Gallente was my second choice because of the whole Space 'Murica ideal. It became distasteful when I learn they were originally French. I didn't want to play as a Frenchie.

Minmatar's design reminded me too much of SVER from MAG. I don't like SVER.

Amarr are clearly villains with their hyper expansion and forced conversion. It also reminded me of SVER for a different reason, they are the largest and control the most.

On a different note. Whenever there is a moral choice system in games, most people will choose the good side every time. I'd provide examples, but I can't find a source at the moment. For now, just look at the FW status right now. The "good guys" are winning.

I picked Caldari because of the industrial culture it had. You must work to get what you want and can't expect things to be given to you. Freeloadering is for the weak! I also like the design of how the ships looked like. It reminded me of the Imperial Empire design from Star Wars. I never liked the government and as someone has said, I never liked Heth either.

Gallente was my second choice because of the whole Space 'Murica ideal. It became distasteful when I learn they were originally French. I didn't want to play as a Frenchie.

Minmatar's design reminded me too much of SVER from MAG. I don't like SVER.

Amarr are clearly villains with their hyper expansion and forced conversion. It also reminded me of SVER for a different reason, they are the largest and control the most.

On a different note. Whenever there is a moral choice system in games, most people will choose the good side every time. I'd provide examples, but I can't find a source at the moment. For now, just look at the FW status right now. The "good guys" are winning.

90% of the time when I choose amarr in fw , my team wins or maybe it could just be me carrying them. :p

but what i have picked up over time is that...

gallente are racist
amar are slaveholders
minmatar are gangs and stuff
caldari are poor

sooooo all these races suck and so im gallente purely from my merc quarters.

but if i had a chance i would be Jove... screw humanity.

I don't want to be offensive but....

That's a poor and generally ignorant set of understandings you have come to.

I read the race bios carefully when i 1st downloaded the game & watched the videos.

this is all MY own views on each of the races based on my own experience in dealing with them and watching their affairs:

1st is my race-
The Gallente Federation: The only truly free society within New Eden, basically all cultures are free to perform and act as their own as long as they do not go against the federation. everyone has a chance at being on the top of the political and military ladder, this includes people with good ideals, views and methods AND those with selfish, evil and tyrannical intentions, but that is what comes with having a free society where nothing is set in stone. The Federation stand for freedom and choice yet within its boarders openly opposing the federation is a bad decision as it is within all boarders of humanity. in my personal experience with the federation, i am standing proud and strong as a defender and bringer of freedom and choice.

2nd is my rival race-
The Caldari State: They fight for profit and honor, basically anyone who offers them the highest price. they take great pride in fighting for the state especially, they are stubborn to take down as they defend their "ideals" with fierceness and numbers, which is probably why we haven't wiped them out yet. they seem to have very strict guidelines on how to conduct social activities not to mention they have no control over how they are to live their lives, the corporations in control have all the power and in their society it seems that the person with the largest wallet gets the largest share. I give respect to the caldari ONLY for the reason that they defend their state with as much determination as i defend my federation.

3rd is the tribal race-
The Minmitar Republic: Everyone can agree with me that they are the most primitive of the 4 races, their equipment large and small are covered in rust which is most likely a symbol used by them to show that they are the hardest working of all the races. they may have inferior technology but that doesn't mean they are the weakest willed of the races, by far they have the strongest home running will iv ever seen, their iron resolve and will is most likely the result of their enslavement by the amarrians centuries ago and they do wish to reclaim their honor they had before the amarrians arrived at their worlds.

4th is the religious fanatics-
The Amarr Empire: I have no good words for this race but i will try to seem as neutral as possible. They do everything in the name of their religion, their god, whether it be extremely highly praised or highly tyrannical, they always give the same statement when asked why they do it, "it is what our god wishes and it shall be done". they seem to be closed minded and extremely paranoid at the thought of personal freedom and individuality as expressed by one True Adamance, be that as it may, their devotion to their religion is very interesting, its in the same way that i fight for the federation, and people fight for the state and why the minmitar fight for their honor back. the fact is that they only accept those that share their specific ideals and beliefs and want to destroy or enslave anything and everything that has different views than they do, which is why they come off as the tyrannical empire of the galaxy, which is also the most realistic of all the empires as it shows the true fearful and brutal nature of humanity is its worst.

ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS ALL MY PERSONAL VIEWS BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE DEALING WITH ALL THE RACES.

4th is the religious fanatics-
The Amarr Empire: I have no good words for this race but i will try to seem as neutral as possible. They do everything in the name of their religion, their god, whether it be extremely highly praised or highly tyrannical, they always give the same statement when asked why they do it, "it is what our god wishes and it shall be done". they seem to be closed minded and extremely paranoid at the thought of personal freedom and individuality as expressed by one True Adamance, be that as it may, their devotion to their religion is very interesting. the fact is that they only accept those that share their specific ideals and beliefs and want to destroy or enslave anything and everything that has different views than they do, which is why they come off as the tyrannical empire of the galaxy, which is also the most realistic of all the empires as it shows the true fearful and brutal nature of humanity is its worst.

ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS ALL MY PERSONAL VIEWS BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE DEALING WITH ALL THE RACES.

That's basically the Amarrian style.

I do what I do because I believe I am doing the right thing. I believe I am helping the peoples of New Eden. I believe that the God you despise so much is real and that this is what he would wish for me, and that because I have the freedom and the power to do something to change this galaxy I will.

You do have a point about how we enslave the other races we encounter, but I honestly think we are doing them a favour. The Ni-Kunni are the perfect examples of that. They were not as developed as many of the other races were, they were extremely pious, and willing to accept Amarrian culture with minimal need for force. In one generation many if not all of the Ni Kunni were freed, and were adopted into the empire, less than 1% remain in bondage.

Comparing them to the Minmatar who were obstinate and rebellious, much longer was needed to soothe their wilfulness but that never came to pass.

((I don't believe the Amarr are humanity at its worst I believe they sit on an axis they are humanity, and humanity through the lens of religion, capable of the greatest good of all the races, but the greatest evil too. I perceive the Gallente as one aspect of the worst humanity has to offer, because they too sit on an axis one that lets them do as they see fit, but what they have achieved with this freedom is complacency, corruption, and a lack of true purpose.

But as always I respect your opinion, and will always debate it if you don't mind the good only fashioned arguments we have.))

I picked Minmatar because I'm a roughneck/blue collar kind of guy. I enjoy my freedom with responsibility, without the intrusion of some governmental, economical, or religious institution telling my what freedoms I am allowed to enjoy.

i hate slavery and other forms of bigotry and feel that those who practice these are a blight upon humanity that should be eradicated.

I'm all for the Tribal lifestyle. I feel man is meant to live in harmony with nature - not destroy it with materialism. Technology is relied upon too much. Certain creature comforts are nice, but one should still be able to survive without them if the need arises.

I picked Minmatar because I'm a roughneck/blue collar kind of guy. I enjoy my freedom with responsibility, without the intrusion of some governmental, economical, or religious institution telling my what freedoms I am allowed to enjoy.

i hate slavery and other forms of bigotry and feel that those who practice these are a blight upon humanity that should be eradicated.

I'm all for the Tribal lifestyle. I feel man is meant to live in harmony with nature - not destroy it with materialism. Technology is relied upon too much. Certain creature comforts are nice, but one should still be able to survive without them if the need arises.

That's basically the Amarrian style.

I do what I do because I believe I am doing the right thing. I believe I am helping the peoples of New Eden. I believe that the God you despise so much is real and that this is what he would wish for me, and that because I have the freedom and the power to do something to change this galaxy I will.

You do have a point about how we enslave the other races we encounter, but I honestly think we are doing them a favour. The Ni-Kunni are the perfect examples of that. They were not as developed as many of the other races were, they were extremely pious, and willing to accept Amarrian culture with minimal need for force. In one generation many if not all of the Ni Kunni were freed, and were adopted into the empire, less than 1% remain in bondage.

Comparing them to the Minmatar who were obstinate and rebellious, much longer was needed to soothe their wilfulness but that never came to pass.

((I don't believe the Amarr are humanity at its worst I believe they sit on an axis they are humanity, and humanity through the lens of religion, capable of the greatest good of all the races, but the greatest evil too. I perceive the Gallente as one aspect of the worst humanity has to offer, because they too sit on an axis one that lets them do as they see fit, but what they have achieved with this freedom is complacency, corruption, and a lack of true purpose.

But as always I respect your opinion, and will always debate it if you don't mind the good only fashioned arguments we have.))

One of the most ignorant yet common generalization I hear about the Amarr is that they are racists. I'm assuming people make this assumption based on their stance on slavery. However, this is not the case at all. The Amarr enslave other races not because of their race, but because of their unenlightened beliefs. Bringing up the Ni-Kunni again, they are a perfect example of the Amarr taking in a foreign race and welcoming them as equals among the Empire.

Thank you, Adamance. Really I wish we had more people role playing Ni-Kunni to spread this message around.

One of the most ignorant yet common generalization I hear about the Amarr is that they are racists. I'm assuming people make this assumption based on their stance on slavery. However, this is not the case at all. The Amarr enslave other races not because of their race, but because of their unenlightened beliefs. Bringing up the Ni-Kunni again, they are a perfect example of the Amarr taking in a foreign race and welcoming them as equals among the Empire.

Amarrian slavery isn't bigotry nor is it discriminatory, they do not believe their slaves are inferior to them.

However in Amarrian culture there are nobility so we do have a caste system in place.
Also the MInmatar suit you then since they were lucky enough to have been situated on a paradise world when they were developing and I assume much like the Intaki Idama and Caldari Ida practitioners they are rather in tune with nature

how long did it take? several centuries, it doesn't take that long for a newly assimilated civilization to be accepted into an open coalition.

I wouldn't say bad guys, imperial aspirations have never been a bad thing, the envy of every peoples.

Good is subjective in New Eden. For example the MInmatar cannot let go of the past. They are trapped in a cycle of brutality and anger made of their own youthful impetuousness, the Gallente are a hive of scum and villainy but also oppressive behind closed doors, the Caldair while good meaning are callous at times, and the Amarr have held to their religions and kept slaves for millennia.

No group is good, no group is bad. People I guess cannot shake the real world concepts they bring into the game.

how long did it take? several centuries, it doesn't take that long for a newly assimilated civilization to be accepted into an open coalition.