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Void Echo
Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium
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Posted - 2013.09.30 20:56:00 -
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I read the race bios carefully when i 1st downloaded the game & watched the videos.
this is all MY own views on each of the races based on my own experience in dealing with them and watching their affairs:
1st is my race- The Gallente Federation: The only truly free society within New Eden, basically all cultures are free to perform and act as their own as long as they do not go against the federation. everyone has a chance at being on the top of the political and military ladder, this includes people with good ideals, views and methods AND those with selfish, evil and tyrannical intentions, but that is what comes with having a free society where nothing is set in stone. The Federation stand for freedom and choice yet within its boarders openly opposing the federation is a bad decision as it is within all boarders of humanity. in my personal experience with the federation, i am standing proud and strong as a defender and bringer of freedom and choice.
2nd is my rival race- The Caldari State: They fight for profit and honor, basically anyone who offers them the highest price. they take great pride in fighting for the state especially, they are stubborn to take down as they defend their "ideals" with fierceness and numbers, which is probably why we haven't wiped them out yet. they seem to have very strict guidelines on how to conduct social activities not to mention they have no control over how they are to live their lives, the corporations in control have all the power and in their society it seems that the person with the largest wallet gets the largest share. I give respect to the caldari ONLY for the reason that they defend their state with as much determination as i defend my federation.
3rd is the tribal race- The Minmitar Republic: Everyone can agree with me that they are the most primitive of the 4 races, their equipment large and small are covered in rust which is most likely a symbol used by them to show that they are the hardest working of all the races. they may have inferior technology but that doesn't mean they are the weakest willed of the races, by far they have the strongest home running will iv ever seen, their iron resolve and will is most likely the result of their enslavement by the amarrians centuries ago and they do wish to reclaim their honor they had before the amarrians arrived at their worlds.
4th is the religious fanatics- The Amarr Empire: I have no good words for this race but i will try to seem as neutral as possible. They do everything in the name of their religion, their god, whether it be extremely highly praised or highly tyrannical, they always give the same statement when asked why they do it, "it is what our god wishes and it shall be done". they seem to be closed minded and extremely paranoid at the thought of personal freedom and individuality as expressed by one True Adamance, be that as it may, their devotion to their religion is very interesting, its in the same way that i fight for the federation, and people fight for the state and why the minmitar fight for their honor back. the fact is that they only accept those that share their specific ideals and beliefs and want to destroy or enslave anything and everything that has different views than they do, which is why they come off as the tyrannical empire of the galaxy, which is also the most realistic of all the empires as it shows the true fearful and brutal nature of humanity is its worst.
ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS ALL MY PERSONAL VIEWS BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE DEALING WITH ALL THE RACES. |
Void Echo
Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium
1567
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Posted - 2013.09.30 21:10:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:
4th is the religious fanatics- The Amarr Empire: I have no good words for this race but i will try to seem as neutral as possible. They do everything in the name of their religion, their god, whether it be extremely highly praised or highly tyrannical, they always give the same statement when asked why they do it, "it is what our god wishes and it shall be done". they seem to be closed minded and extremely paranoid at the thought of personal freedom and individuality as expressed by one True Adamance, be that as it may, their devotion to their religion is very interesting. the fact is that they only accept those that share their specific ideals and beliefs and want to destroy or enslave anything and everything that has different views than they do, which is why they come off as the tyrannical empire of the galaxy, which is also the most realistic of all the empires as it shows the true fearful and brutal nature of humanity is its worst.
ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS ALL MY PERSONAL VIEWS BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE DEALING WITH ALL THE RACES.
That's basically the Amarrian style. I do what I do because I believe I am doing the right thing. I believe I am helping the peoples of New Eden. I believe that the God you despise so much is real and that this is what he would wish for me, and that because I have the freedom and the power to do something to change this galaxy I will. You do have a point about how we enslave the other races we encounter, but I honestly think we are doing them a favour. The Ni-Kunni are the perfect examples of that. They were not as developed as many of the other races were, they were extremely pious, and willing to accept Amarrian culture with minimal need for force. In one generation many if not all of the Ni Kunni were freed, and were adopted into the empire, less than 1% remain in bondage. Comparing them to the Minmatar who were obstinate and rebellious, much longer was needed to soothe their wilfulness but that never came to pass. ((I don't believe the Amarr are humanity at its worst I believe they sit on an axis they are humanity, and humanity through the lens of religion, capable of the greatest good of all the races, but the greatest evil too. I perceive the Gallente as one aspect of the worst humanity has to offer, because they too sit on an axis one that lets them do as they see fit, but what they have achieved with this freedom is complacency, corruption, and a lack of true purpose. But as always I respect your opinion, and will always debate it if you don't mind the good only fashioned arguments we have.))
i had no intention of starting another debate on which race is the best, also this is the 1st time weve ever actually talked rationally about the views. |
Void Echo
Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium
1567
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Posted - 2013.09.30 21:13:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:I picked Minmatar because I'm a roughneck/blue collar kind of guy. I enjoy my freedom with responsibility, without the intrusion of some governmental, economical, or religious institution telling my what freedoms I am allowed to enjoy.
i hate slavery and other forms of bigotry and feel that those who practice these are a blight upon humanity that should be eradicated.
I'm all for the Tribal lifestyle. I feel man is meant to live in harmony with nature - not destroy it with materialism. Technology is relied upon too much. Certain creature comforts are nice, but one should still be able to survive without them if the need arises.
have fun shooting at my dropsuit with spears then |
Void Echo
Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium
1567
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Posted - 2013.09.30 21:17:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:One of the most ignorant yet common generalization I hear about the Amarr is that they are racists. I'm assuming people make this assumption based on their stance on slavery. However, this is not the case at all. The Amarr enslave other races not because of their race, but because of their unenlightened beliefs. Bringing up the Ni-Kunni again, they are a perfect example of the Amarr taking in a foreign race and welcoming them as equals among the Empire.
how long did it take? several centuries, it doesn't take that long for a newly assimilated civilization to be accepted into an open coalition. |
Void Echo
Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium
1567
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Posted - 2013.09.30 21:23:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:One of the most ignorant yet common generalization I hear about the Amarr is that they are racists. I'm assuming people make this assumption based on their stance on slavery. However, this is not the case at all. The Amarr enslave other races not because of their race, but because of their unenlightened beliefs. Bringing up the Ni-Kunni again, they are a perfect example of the Amarr taking in a foreign race and welcoming them as equals among the Empire.
how long did it take? several centuries, it doesn't take that long for a newly assimilated civilization to be accepted into an open coalition. One generation with many liberal Holder realising them almost immediately. However you do have to accept that part of the cultural integration is the changes to social structure, religion and superstition, as well as changing public opinion. For the Ni-kunni that was easy (they like many societies in our world were only too willing to adopt foreign beliefs, Check out some of the Portuguese missionaries and mission in feudal japan, they have some very interesting times there) but for some it take much linger based on how much you wish to resist of be obstinate.
im willing to be that they weren't slaves for long because they actually shared your beliefs, which also gives more to the fact that the empire is closed minded. |
Void Echo
Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium
1567
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Posted - 2013.09.30 21:28:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:True Adamance wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:Amarr are clearly villains with their hyper expansion and forced conversion. It also reminded me of SVER for a different reason, they are the largest and control the most.
On a different note. Whenever there is a moral choice system in games, most people will choose the good side every time. I'd provide examples, but I can't find a source at the moment. For now, just look at the FW status right now. The "good guys" are winning. I wouldn't say bad guys, imperial aspirations have never been a bad thing, the envy of every peoples. Good is subjective in New Eden. For example the MInmatar cannot let go of the past. They are trapped in a cycle of brutality and anger made of their own youthful impetuousness, the Gallente are a hive of scum and villainy but also oppressive behind closed doors, the Caldair while good meaning are callous at times, and the Amarr have held to their religions and kept slaves for millennia. No group is good, no group is bad. People I guess cannot shake the real world concepts they bring into the game. (A response to each paragraph) Imperial aspirations is not something every culture has strives to achieve. Otherwise America would of had more than two empires by the time the Spanish came. "Good" has always been subjective. I chose Caldari because working for what you want and things not being handed to you appealed to me. People will usually bring their values when they RP. Part of our nature I suppose. A response to your responses. 1. That remains to have been seen, America was a small fledgling country during the time when imperial aspirations were very much so the thing to do, they broke away for their own personal rights and liberties, but I also believe because such aspirations weren't appealing. I also believe that if such aspirations were the case then they would have stayed with the larger British empire and claimed the new world for that empire, however since all of this is speculation the point and comparison between America and Amarricuh is moot. 2. Yup it always has but that doesn't mean the Gallente and Minmatar are the good guys in new eden, I mean I cannot say the Matari are bad because I don't believe that, but I do believe the Gallente are the counterpart to the empire and while we can be the best and worst of human nature at one time or another, the federation remains the best and worst all at the same time. 3. Good reason. Yup anything you work for is always more valuable than something you have given to you or assume have given to you.
America broke away from England because the king at the time kept on taking away their personal and political liberties and freedoms, they got sick of it and rebelled and we have been a country ever since. |
Void Echo
Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium
1567
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Posted - 2013.09.30 21:33:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:One of the most ignorant yet common generalization I hear about the Amarr is that they are racists. I'm assuming people make this assumption based on their stance on slavery. However, this is not the case at all. The Amarr enslave other races not because of their race, but because of their unenlightened beliefs. Bringing up the Ni-Kunni again, they are a perfect example of the Amarr taking in a foreign race and welcoming them as equals among the Empire.
how long did it take? several centuries, it doesn't take that long for a newly assimilated civilization to be accepted into an open coalition. One generation with many liberal Holder realising them almost immediately. However you do have to accept that part of the cultural integration is the changes to social structure, religion and superstition, as well as changing public opinion. For the Ni-kunni that was easy (they like many societies in our world were only too willing to adopt foreign beliefs, Check out some of the Portuguese missionaries and mission in feudal japan, they have some very interesting times there) but for some it take much linger based on how much you wish to resist of be obstinate. im willing to be that they weren't slaves for long because they actually shared your beliefs, which also gives more to the fact that the empire is closed minded. That's not true, it has been a statute that yes the Ni Kunni were religious though they did not share the same kind of religion the True Amarr did, what the have been known to do however is be drawn to the Sani Sabik ways which are a direct violation of our religious mandate, substituting water in their ceremonies for blood. Close minded?.... because one religion has inducted another into its society? That's is not close minded, more so open minded, If we were dead set on being the only empire around total destruction would be our game, but it is not, it is instead bringing all the peoples of new eden together.
i would take water over blood any day |
Void Echo
Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium
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Posted - 2013.10.01 21:52:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I'm an armor guy, and the four-eyed suit looked bad ass, simple Ewww a Gallentean.... don't touch me sir! at least minmitar has an eye, you guys are blind lol |
Void Echo
Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium
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Posted - 2013.10.02 00:22:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I'm an armor guy, and the four-eyed suit looked bad ass, simple Ewww a Gallentean.... don't touch me sir! at least minmitar has an eye, you guys are blind lol We have 3 eyes, caldari have 2..... Enlightened *****!
having 4 eyes, we see everything |
Void Echo
Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium
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Posted - 2013.10.02 00:26:00 -
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Stevez Lau wrote:Amarr cause that's my EvE race and I love lasers!!
the amarr... lords of lazers. |
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