I don't play Eve but from what I've read logistics ships also offer energy transfer and targeting buffs. I didn't see any general use Eve equivalent to the rest of the Dust equipment but I believe that is because Eve is more complicated in that the roles of the equipment in Dust cannot be fulfilled by a piece of equipment in Eve.

Those are other 'Logistics' functions, but they aren't the main ones. There tend to be other ships built just for these, just as there are ships built just for Shield Transporters/Remote Armor Repairers. Energy Transfer is used to keep capacitor intensive ships cap-stable and targeting links are meant to increase the rotation speed of turrets to allow them to betterd hit smaller/faster targets. Unless they are adding capacitors with the vehicle restructuring, we have no capacitor equivalent in DUST, and even then it would probably be an LLAV or LDS thing. As for targeting links, the only thing I could think of as an analog would just screw with everyone's sensitivity, and that would be a griefing tool, not a Logistics one.

It's not just rotation speed but range buffs as well. Just because they are secondary bonuses doesn't mean they aren't logistics skills.


It's a bit of a stretch but energy transfer could be considered similar to nanohives(in that they both replenish a resource) and targeting buffs could be considered similar to the active scanner(both aid in target acquisition).

I was remarking solely on dropsuits(that's what this thread is about after all but I would love to see a capacitor based power management system for vehicles). I was comparing Eve functions to Dust functions(as you said not the same but they do affect similar attributes or in the case of nanohives restores or prolongs your ability to fight).

Whether they match or not isn't really relevant, what is relevant is that in Eve logistics ships aren't solely about healing - that may be their primary use but it's not their only intended use. I presume that this is how it is with logistics suits in Dust(or maybe they're using the real definition of logistics in Dust).

I don't wanna see more uplinks all over the field.

Also I like my Gallente Fitting bonus.

Commando needs some love, the bonus for weapon reloads based on racial type is kind of lame. Currently it offers all light weapons allowing for diversity and utility (which in reality is the entire point) by splitting up this bonus to racial weapons and the same bonus for every race is kind of bland.

Caldari: bonus to shield regeneration rate 5% / level
Gallante: bonus to ammunition reserves 5% per level
Minmatar: bonus to clip size 4% per level / bonus to weapon swapping speed?

Actually, just to pipe in regarding Logistics in EVE vs RL vs Dust.

Logistic SHIPS -> Ships with bonuses to remote repairing other ships/structures/drones, including through the use of modules and drones. These ships also have bonuses when projecting secondary effects such as capacitor transfer, tracking buff etc.

Logistics networks/roles etc -> Infrastructure and or pilots involved in performing duties with the dictionary definition of the word 'logistics'. A good logistics network/infrastructure includes Jump capable ships (carriers/supercarriers/jump freighters), as well as immobile stuff.

Logistics can equally be applied to both meanings and are often used, much to the confusion as seen in the previous posts. However, technically CCP defined logistics in EVE to refer to the logistic SHIPS.

Another point is: Zero, you're mistaken. ALL logistics ships in EVE, either tech 1 or tech 2, have slots for guns and/or missiles. It's just not a good idea to fit them in most cases since the remote repairers/shield transfers go in the same high slots as weapons, and you also don't get bonuses to weapons. However, I seriously doubt this will work in Dust, as no one wants to run around the battlefield performing pure repping duty and not have a gun in a FPS. This is also due to the reason that there is a hard limit on how many people can be on each side, whereas there aren't any artificial limits like this in EVE.

Also, the naming conventions matter Mr. Stile. They are one of the major linking factors between DUST and EVE and give us reasonable expectations of what we are getting into when we choose a specialization. If I chose Heavy but he ended up being the fast, agile, low-HP guy, I'd be damn irritated at the crappy naming, wouldn't you?

All light weapons would take 25% less PG/CPU (when maxed out). That is big.
HP related bonuses like shield recharge do not fit the commando's role as a versatile dual light weapon specialization, such bonuses belong a sentinel.
Ammunition reserves fit, but seems kind of pointless since commandos can carry nanohives.
Clip size seems nice and it fits, but since it applies to all weapons, it would just upstage my proposed Minmatar assault bonus.

I would like to have 2 equipment slots on medium frame proto level.

Conversely, if I wanted to drop equipment and generally help my team in a supporting role with no interest in healing but got stuck as a medic I certainly wouldn't be happy.

Dust names are generally accurate an in line with the standards set out in the FPS world, but not in the case of logistics if it were to be turned into a medic type class. If this were to happen Dust would require a tutorial that explains the different classes general usage, strengths and weaknesses at the very least.

i dont see why the assault shield bonus for galente is useless.


they might go into shields. and get some use out of it.

A tutorial would be fine, but I do not understand your point. If you want to be the Engineer, you would choose the Engineer suit. Also, Logistics means healer in New Eden, as we have already discussed to clonedeath and CRU, so you should already know that Logistics is Medic. If I went into some other game and didn't bother to learn its naming conventions before settling into a role, I'd probably be in a role I don't like. That makes sense. It's be like playing Final Fantasy and going 'Oh, I'll be a White Mage because they cast spells!' and then being irritated that they only know Cure.

The only point I am trying to make, which you have noted, is that players will have certain expectations of what a class will be based on it's name and their previous gaming experience. It's fine to follow traditional game lore but an explanation is required for those who aren't fully conversant in that lore(myself for example - even after watching several hours worth of Eve gameplay I didn't even know there was a logistics class of vessels).

Everything would be fine as long as there was a tutorial. We do not need to discuss this topic any further.