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Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.09.16 00:48:00 -
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When a tanker gos 30-0, its OP and needs to be nerfed. When an infantry player gos 30-0 (i.e. AR assault), its perfectly balanced. Why does this phenomena happen? Also, wasent attacking the AR assault, but its the most common fit for it.
Alpha 443-6732 wrote:I had averaged out with a 35/0 score during each of my previous 5 games. GOML faglords
Why is everyone but me in this game bad at videogames?
Bow to your lord nerds, I am the Pubstomping KING
#NERF TANKS
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straya fox
CybinSect
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Posted - 2013.09.16 01:16:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:When a tanker gos 30-0, its OP and needs to be nerfed. When an infantry player gos 30-0 (i.e. AR assault), its perfectly balanced. Why does this phenomena happen? Also, wasent attacking the AR assault, but its the most common fit for it. Alpha 443-6732 wrote:I had averaged out with a 35/0 score during each of my previous 5 games. GOML faglords
Why is everyone but me in this game bad at videogames?
Bow to your lord nerds, I am the Pubstomping KING
#NERF TANKS
Yeah i read that post, i think the guy that went 97-0 in his tank probably could not have done that with an assault fit. |
Leovarian L Lavitz
Better Academy.
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Posted - 2013.09.16 01:17:00 -
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Confirmation Bias |
Void Echo
Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium
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Posted - 2013.09.16 01:17:00 -
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its a double standard and needs to be addressed by the community..
the infantry believe they are entitled to everything, and they don't think anyone else should be as good as them.
self entitled pricks |
SgtDoughnut
M.E.R.C. Elite
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Posted - 2013.09.16 01:36:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:
so much this, that and the people who ***** about it cant accept that they dun fuqued up |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.09.16 01:39:00 -
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straya fox wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:When a tanker gos 30-0, its OP and needs to be nerfed. When an infantry player gos 30-0 (i.e. AR assault), its perfectly balanced. Why does this phenomena happen? Also, wasent attacking the AR assault, but its the most common fit for it. Alpha 443-6732 wrote:I had averaged out with a 35/0 score during each of my previous 5 games. GOML faglords
Why is everyone but me in this game bad at videogames?
Bow to your lord nerds, I am the Pubstomping KING
#NERF TANKS Yeah i read that post, i think the guy that went 97-0 in his tank probably could not have done that with an assault fit.
nobody has gone 80+ kills sence the dropship spam of chromosome |
KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
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Posted - 2013.09.16 01:40:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:its a double standard and needs to be dealt with by the community..
the infantry believe they are entitled to everything, and they don't think anyone else should be as good as them.
self entitled pricks
Its a FPS, Infantry is the blood that courses through this type of game.
You want to use vehicles? play EVE.
Ah no,but you people want to use VEHICLES to stomp on INFANTRY....Pfft... talk about EZ mode pricks.... |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.09.16 01:40:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:its a double standard and needs to be dealt with by the community..
the infantry believe they are entitled to everything, and they don't think anyone else should be as good as them.
self entitled pricks
id like to look at the situation more optimistically and just call it a double standard as said above, but i kinda agree. lol. there is abit of truth to this statement. Sucks ppl want their class to be the best and not try to balance the game |
Void Echo
Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium
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Posted - 2013.09.16 01:41:00 -
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straya fox wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:When a tanker gos 30-0, its OP and needs to be nerfed. When an infantry player gos 30-0 (i.e. AR assault), its perfectly balanced. Why does this phenomena happen? Also, wasent attacking the AR assault, but its the most common fit for it. Alpha 443-6732 wrote:I had averaged out with a 35/0 score during each of my previous 5 games. GOML faglords
Why is everyone but me in this game bad at videogames?
Bow to your lord nerds, I am the Pubstomping KING
#NERF TANKS Yeah i read that post, i think the guy that went 97-0 in his tank probably could not have done that with an assault fit.
nobody has gone that high since the end of chromosome, the closest iv gotten was 49/0, in chromosome I could get higher. |
KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
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Posted - 2013.09.16 01:42:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Void Echo wrote:its a double standard and needs to be dealt with by the community..
the infantry believe they are entitled to everything, and they don't think anyone else should be as good as them.
self entitled pricks id like to look at the situation more optimistically and just call it a double standard as said above, but i kinda agree. lol. there is abit of truth to this statement. Sucks ppl want their class to be the best and not try to balance the game
Yup, LIKE TANKERS. |
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Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.09.16 01:42:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Void Echo wrote:its a double standard and needs to be dealt with by the community..
the infantry believe they are entitled to everything, and they don't think anyone else should be as good as them.
self entitled pricks Its a FPS, Infantry is the blood that courses through this type of game. You want to use vehicles? play EVE. Ah no,but you people want to use VEHICLES to stomp on INFANTRY....Pfft... talk about EZ mode pricks....
true to an extent. in chrome tankers were like "our tanks are awsome! but we need to be better than awsome..." so there i agree with you. But in uprising its more so:
"our tanks are terrabad and im a good pilot. I want my tank to be at least competitive" |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.09.16 01:43:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Void Echo wrote:its a double standard and needs to be dealt with by the community..
the infantry believe they are entitled to everything, and they don't think anyone else should be as good as them.
self entitled pricks id like to look at the situation more optimistically and just call it a double standard as said above, but i kinda agree. lol. there is abit of truth to this statement. Sucks ppl want their class to be the best and not try to balance the game Yup, LIKE TANKERS.
"like tankers"
so what your saying is, both tankers and infainty want their class to be best and none of it balanced? |
Void Echo
Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium
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Posted - 2013.09.16 01:43:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Void Echo wrote:its a double standard and needs to be dealt with by the community..
the infantry believe they are entitled to everything, and they don't think anyone else should be as good as them.
self entitled pricks Its a FPS, Infantry is the blood that courses through this type of game. You want to use vehicles? play EVE. Ah no,but you people want to use VEHICLES to stomp on INFANTRY....Pfft... talk about EZ mode pricks....
if it was a meant to be a pure infantry game, they wouldn't have added vehicles now would they..
you want a pure infantry game, go play call of duty.
I don't care about stomping over infantry in vehicles, honestly its quite boring even when im going as an infantry guy myself.
I skilled into tanks so I could fight other tankers and vehicle pilots, I could care less about the infantry (unless they have AV, then I get worried).
you say that vehicles are easy mode when youv never driven, skilled or taken time to learn them at all... and you say were biased? your a giant hypocrite |
Assert Dominance
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
379
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Posted - 2013.09.16 01:44:00 -
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Had a great dream that involved miley cyrus and taylor swift that night.
They made me bacon with a side of cinnamon applesause |
straya fox
CybinSect
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Posted - 2013.09.16 01:44:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:straya fox wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:When a tanker gos 30-0, its OP and needs to be nerfed. When an infantry player gos 30-0 (i.e. AR assault), its perfectly balanced. Why does this phenomena happen? Also, wasent attacking the AR assault, but its the most common fit for it. Alpha 443-6732 wrote:I had averaged out with a 35/0 score during each of my previous 5 games. GOML faglords
Why is everyone but me in this game bad at videogames?
Bow to your lord nerds, I am the Pubstomping KING
#NERF TANKS Yeah i read that post, i think the guy that went 97-0 in his tank probably could not have done that with an assault fit. nobody has gone that high since the end of chromosome, the closest iv gotten was 49/0, in chromosome I could get higher.
Yeah he was a bit vague on how or when he achieved 97-0, i have never seen a score like that b4. |
KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
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Posted - 2013.09.16 01:45:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Void Echo wrote:its a double standard and needs to be dealt with by the community..
the infantry believe they are entitled to everything, and they don't think anyone else should be as good as them.
self entitled pricks id like to look at the situation more optimistically and just call it a double standard as said above, but i kinda agree. lol. there is abit of truth to this statement. Sucks ppl want their class to be the best and not try to balance the game Yup, LIKE TANKERS. "like tankers" so what your saying is, both tankers and infainty want their class to be best and none of it balanced?
Exactly.
I agree tanks are UP on the FIREPOWER AREA,and pricing area is too expensive.
But please,tanks already take a LOT of damage,for a FPS to have a specialized AV soldier with Proto geat to have to shoot a tank 6+times with a proto swarm to destroy it is madness.... |
Pvt Numnutz
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.09.16 01:45:00 -
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Tanks are no more OP than dropships. Its a shame that tankers get all the fan mail  |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
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Posted - 2013.09.16 01:46:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Void Echo wrote:its a double standard and needs to be dealt with by the community..
the infantry believe they are entitled to everything, and they don't think anyone else should be as good as them.
self entitled pricks Its a FPS, Infantry is the blood that courses through this type of game. You want to use vehicles? play EVE. Ah no,but you people want to use VEHICLES to stomp on INFANTRY....Pfft... talk about EZ mode pricks....
This isnt an fps you ******. Its an mmofpsrpg. Its the planetside of eve. if you dont like it to bad. go play paintball.....oh wait that has tanks to  . Also this game is about war. Tanks play an even bigger and more important role than infantry in war. So yea shove that up your tryhard rear. |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.09.16 01:48:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Tanks are no more OP than dropships. Its a shame that tankers get all the fan mail
lol i feel your pain because dropships suck. But tbh, tanks are better off than you guys. Dropships suck balls so hard |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.09.16 01:51:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Void Echo wrote:its a double standard and needs to be dealt with by the community..
the infantry believe they are entitled to everything, and they don't think anyone else should be as good as them.
self entitled pricks id like to look at the situation more optimistically and just call it a double standard as said above, but i kinda agree. lol. there is abit of truth to this statement. Sucks ppl want their class to be the best and not try to balance the game Yup, LIKE TANKERS. "like tankers" so what your saying is, both tankers and infainty want their class to be best and none of it balanced? Exactly.
I agree tanks are UP on the FIREPOWER AREA,and pricing area is too expensive. But please,tanks already take a LOT of damage,for a FPS to have a specialized AV soldier with Proto gear to have to shoot a tank 6+times with a proto swarm to destroy it is madness....Specially taking in consideration the low amount of players allowed in the game.Having to sacrifice 2-3 potential AI soldiers to try and drop a tank is already enough of a handicap.Now you add the fact that the enemy might drop up to 4 tanks ,and you ahve yourself a game breaker. @soldiersaint, you are not even worth my time maggot. ;)
yikes. Every tanker who plays the tank will say the opposite with 100% of shield tankers crying after they read your statement :( but i respect your opinion |
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Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.09.16 01:52:00 -
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soo anyone gona comment back to my OP, that is okay for skilled infaintry players to go 30+ kills and 0 but its OP for vehicals to do so? |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.09.16 01:53:00 -
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Too many games are balanced on the concept of free vehicles.This is what make trying to make Dust 514 vehicles feel just 'right' extraordinarily difficult because they don't rain from the sky for free. Someone paid for those tanks, as does everything that tank can kill.
This is why making the tank too good is considerably a bad thing because it can negate everyone's else's investments in both skill points in isk quickly to the point that the infantry interplay is non existent. Which is the current industry standard, From the call of duty expansion pack multiplayer games to halo, to unreal, to even more recently Plane Side 2 included. Earlier builds such as E3 had tanks that was designed stats wise on this model almost and they where largely obscurely very dangerous racking up nearly up to 40-70 kills by its lonesome. Matches quickly digested down to who can deploy the most tanks first and fastest. Once on field and one side did not have sufficient amount of HAVs on the field the match was by and large over. People couldn't spawn, people could call in other vehicles and of course the team insufficient of tanks couldn't call orbitals either to which might I add the old age tanks laughed off.
During this age and time CCP Blam asserted that he believed that HAVs did not require infantry support, this drew quite a bit of ire from the infantry community at the time.
As Dust 514 continued to develop the HAV nerfs began to roll in one after the other to the point its now the reverse being in play. Tanks are not worth the sufficient amount of isk and sp investments to be effective on the field. While the HAVs on the edge its vehicles like the standard dropship that have seem to fallen off the table in terms of isk per power projection. However not all is lost, its possible to dial it back a bit make the vehicles more worth their costs.
As it stands now Team Kong, consisting of the likes of CCP Wolfman and CCP Remnant are in charge of everything you touch on the battlefield from your controllers to each gun and suit, to have them in charge of vehicles as well is an extraordinarily smart move as it gets the entire picture singing the same song. 1.5 will feature the first set of massive revisions with subsequent patches adding back in all that was nuked out of existence in 1.5. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
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Posted - 2013.09.16 01:54:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:soo anyone gona comment back to my OP, that is okay for skilled infaintry players to go 30+ kills and 0 but its OP for vehicals to do so?
I like how you shove me off as soon as i mention something that actually makes sense. you want balance? you will never have it. |
knight of 6
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
277
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Posted - 2013.09.16 01:55:00 -
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straya fox wrote:Void Echo wrote:straya fox wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:When a tanker gos 30-0, its OP and needs to be nerfed. When an infantry player gos 30-0 (i.e. AR assault), its perfectly balanced. Why does this phenomena happen? Also, wasent attacking the AR assault, but its the most common fit for it. Alpha 443-6732 wrote:I had averaged out with a 35/0 score during each of my previous 5 games. GOML faglords
Why is everyone but me in this game bad at videogames?
Bow to your lord nerds, I am the Pubstomping KING
#NERF TANKS Yeah i read that post, i think the guy that went 97-0 in his tank probably could not have done that with an assault fit. nobody has gone that high since the end of chromosome, the closest iv gotten was 49/0, in chromosome I could get higher. Yeah he was a bit vague on how or when he achieved 97-0, i have never seen a score like that b4.
technically I can't publicly disclose that I may or may not have seen a score that high, so lets just say there wasn't always a clone limit in skirmish and leave it at that... |
KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
1080
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Posted - 2013.09.16 01:58:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:
@soldiersaint, you are not even worth my time maggot. ;)
yikes. Every tanker who plays the tank will say the opposite with 100% of shield tankers crying after they read your statement :( but i respect your opinion[/quote]
Exactly , people will ALWAYS whine if they get killed. Thats what they want? to be able to take 10+ Proto AV shots to the face and survive? thats ALSO not balance.
I've faced tankers that have taken 5+ Proto swarms to the face and i even have their NAMES....
Knight Solaire with his missle tank IN a city being bombared by AV nades PLUS my proto swarm, survived. Kills 24/ deaths 1
Frost Byte, Took 6 Proto swarms to the face in his tank,survived and hid while i was ressuplying,. kills19 / deaths 0
BUGGBUNNY LOONEY took 9 Packed AV nades and survived,went to hide behind the red line to regen (thing im AGAINST with vehicles) or recall the tank. 15 kills / 0 deaths manus peak (here were 2 other tanks too...)
NINJAROBOTCHICKEN... (i dont know he had a really long name) took 6 Proto Forge guns to the face from 2 Proto AV specialists and survived... 38 kills / 0 deaths in Line Harvest
I could go on, with names, and numbers, forever (I ACTUALLY WRITE THEM DOWN,with time and date).Im not talking out of my a** here bro.
It really annoys me see people saying how bad tanks are, and then go 25+ kills and zero games for 5-10 games in a row....
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straya fox
CybinSect
16
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Posted - 2013.09.16 02:02:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:soo anyone gona comment back to my OP, that is okay for skilled infaintry players to go 30+ kills and 0 but its OP for vehicals to do so?
In my (limited) experience, most of the infantry guys that go 30-0 were snipers, 1.4 shut them down a bit with objective cover. Assault players generally lose a clone or 3 |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
681
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Posted - 2013.09.16 02:06:00 -
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straya fox wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:When a tanker gos 30-0, its OP and needs to be nerfed. When an infantry player gos 30-0 (i.e. AR assault), its perfectly balanced. Why does this phenomena happen? Also, wasent attacking the AR assault, but its the most common fit for it. Alpha 443-6732 wrote:I had averaged out with a 35/0 score during each of my previous 5 games. GOML faglords
Why is everyone but me in this game bad at videogames?
Bow to your lord nerds, I am the Pubstomping KING
#NERF TANKS Yeah i read that post, i think the guy that went 97-0 in his tank probably could not have done that with an assault fit.
Half of that match I was in a Scout suit and got like 54/0 soo....... |
straya fox
CybinSect
16
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Posted - 2013.09.16 02:08:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:straya fox wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:When a tanker gos 30-0, its OP and needs to be nerfed. When an infantry player gos 30-0 (i.e. AR assault), its perfectly balanced. Why does this phenomena happen? Also, wasent attacking the AR assault, but its the most common fit for it. Alpha 443-6732 wrote:I had averaged out with a 35/0 score during each of my previous 5 games. GOML faglords
Why is everyone but me in this game bad at videogames?
Bow to your lord nerds, I am the Pubstomping KING
#NERF TANKS Yeah i read that post, i think the guy that went 97-0 in his tank probably could not have done that with an assault fit. Half of that match I was in a Scout suit and got like 54/0 soo.......
Fair enough but u posted in a tank thread and did not mention your infantry prowess, hence the confusion. |
knight of 6
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
277
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Posted - 2013.09.16 02:08:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:''yikes. Every tanker who plays the tank will say the opposite with 100% of shield tankers crying after they read your statement :( but i respect your opinion''
Exactly , people will ALWAYS whine if they get killed. Thats what they want? to be able to take 10+ Proto AV shots to the face and survive? thats ALSO not balance.
I've faced tankers that have taken 5+ Proto swarms to the face and i even have their NAMES....
Knight Solaire with his missle tank IN a city being bombared by AV nades PLUS my proto swarm, survived. Kills 24/ deaths 1
Frost Byte, Took 6 Proto swarms to the face in his tank,survived and hid while i was ressuplying,. kills19 / deaths 0
BUGGBUNNY LOONEY took 9 Packed AV nades and survived,went to hide behind the red line to regen (thing im AGAINST with vehicles) or recall the tank. 15 kills / 0 deaths manus peak (here were 2 other tanks too...)
NINJAROBOTCHICKEN... (i dont know he had a really long name) took 6 Proto Forge guns to the face from 2 Proto AV specialists and survived... 38 kills / 0 deaths in Line Harvest
I could go on, with names, and numbers, forever (I ACTUALLY WRITE THEM DOWN,with time and date).Im not talking out of my a** here bro.
It really annoys me see people saying how bad tanks are, and then go 25+ kills and zero deaths games for 5-10 games in a row....
''soo anyone gona comment back to my OP, that is okay for skilled infaintry players to go 30+ kills and 0 but its OP for vehicals to do so?''
ITs not OP,but its unfait for a tank to go 30 kills with little risk of dying, while going 30 kills even with an AR and not dying at least three times is almost impossible.
I know it's frustrating to see a tanker go 25+ kills per match for 5-10 matches (suspect hyperbole) but thats what it takes for tankers to make a profit, dead serious a good fit runs a mill + a contract pays out 250 for topping the board these days, that's 5 matches to break even. if you want to see tankers get blowed up every match then petition CCP to scale the pay of vehicle operators so they can afford to lose one every match. |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
1235
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Posted - 2013.09.16 02:12:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:''yikes. Every tanker who plays the tank will say the opposite with 100% of shield tankers crying after they read your statement :( but i respect your opinion''
Exactly , people will ALWAYS whine if they get killed. Thats what they want? to be able to take 10+ Proto AV shots to the face and survive? thats ALSO not balance.
I've faced tankers that have taken 5+ Proto swarms to the face and i even have their NAMES....
Knight Solaire with his missle tank IN a city being bombared by AV nades PLUS my proto swarm, survived. Kills 24/ deaths 1
Frost Byte, Took 6 Proto swarms to the face in his tank,survived and hid while i was ressuplying,. kills19 / deaths 0
BUGGBUNNY LOONEY took 9 Packed AV nades and survived,went to hide behind the red line to regen (thing im AGAINST with vehicles) or recall the tank. 15 kills / 0 deaths manus peak (here were 2 other tanks too...)
NINJAROBOTCHICKEN... (i dont know he had a really long name) took 6 Proto Forge guns to the face from 2 Proto AV specialists and survived... 38 kills / 0 deaths in Line Harvest
I could go on, with names, and numbers, forever (I ACTUALLY WRITE THEM DOWN,with time and date).Im not talking out of my a** here bro.
It really annoys me see people saying how bad tanks are, and then go 25+ kills and zero deaths games for 5-10 games in a row....
''soo anyone gona comment back to my OP, that is okay for skilled infaintry players to go 30+ kills and 0 but its OP for vehicals to do so?''
ITs not OP,but its unfait for a tank to go 30 kills with little risk of dying, while going 30 kills even with an AR and not dying at least three times is almost impossible.
PPl say they are bad because they have invested around 11mill SP into an armor tank to survive that sort of punnishment but can be so easily destroyed by any mode of cooperation. Those are quality tankers you were attempting to solo, and if they took that much effort to kill they must have been full HP with their active mods ready to go. So yeah the very best tanks can get away from a single proto AV user, but they quickly die to 2 or more AV users. Wich is fair, i think. But it doesent change the fact that tanks are bad cuz their so easy to kill. A shield tank will get soloed in under 8 seconds by a proto forge as well, never mind any 2 ppl with forges.
But to keep my thread revilant about how this is about infaintry being alowed to do well and tanks are not allowed to do well or their OP, if an infaintry soldier wins a 2v1 or a 3v1 its fair, perfectly balanced and that guy is skilled. But if a skilled tanker kills 2 or 3 people armed with assualt rifiles then its OP. I... dont understand. Very biased |
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