I had averaged out with a 35/0 score during each of my previous 5 games. GOML faglords

Why is everyone but me in this game bad at videogames?

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#NERF TANKS

Yeah i read that post, i think the guy that went 97-0 in his tank probably could not have done that with an assault fit.

its a double standard and needs to be dealt with by the community..

the infantry believe they are entitled to everything, and they don't think anyone else should be as good as them.

self entitled pricks

Its a FPS, Infantry is the blood that courses through this type of game.

You want to use vehicles? play EVE.

Ah no,but you people want to use VEHICLES to stomp on INFANTRY....Pfft... talk about EZ mode pricks....

Yup, LIKE TANKERS.

Tanks are no more OP than dropships. Its a shame that tankers get all the fan mail

Exactly.

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I agree tanks are UP on the FIREPOWER AREA,and pricing area is too expensive.

But please,tanks already take a LOT of damage,for a FPS to have a specialized AV soldier with Proto gear to have to shoot a tank 6+times with a proto swarm to destroy it is madness....Specially taking in consideration the low amount of players allowed in the game.Having to sacrifice 2-3 potential AI soldiers to try and drop a tank is already enough of a handicap.Now you add the fact that the enemy might drop up to 4 tanks ,and you ahve yourself a game breaker.

@soldiersaint, you are not even worth my time maggot. ;)

''yikes. Every tanker who plays the tank will say the opposite with 100% of shield tankers crying after they read your statement :( but i respect your opinion''

Exactly , people will ALWAYS whine if they get killed. Thats what they want? to be able to take 10+ Proto AV shots to the face and survive? thats ALSO not balance.

I've faced tankers that have taken 5+ Proto swarms to the face and i even have their NAMES....
Knight Solaire with his missle tank IN a city being bombared by AV nades PLUS my proto swarm, survived. Kills 24/ deaths 1
Frost Byte, Took 6 Proto swarms to the face in his tank,survived and hid while i was ressuplying,. kills19 / deaths 0
BUGGBUNNY LOONEY took 9 Packed AV nades and survived,went to hide behind the red line to regen (thing im AGAINST with vehicles) or recall the tank. 15 kills / 0 deaths manus peak (here were 2 other tanks too...)
NINJAROBOTCHICKEN... (i dont know he had a really long name) took 6 Proto Forge guns to the face from 2 Proto AV specialists and survived... 38 kills / 0 deaths in Line Harvest

I could go on, with names, and numbers, forever (I ACTUALLY WRITE THEM DOWN,with time and date).Im not talking out of my a** here bro.

It really annoys me see people saying how bad tanks are, and then go 25+ kills and zero deaths games for 5-10 games in a row....

''soo anyone gona comment back to my OP, that is okay for skilled infaintry players to go 30+ kills and 0 but its OP for vehicals to do so?''

ITs not OP,but its unfait for a tank to go 30 kills with little risk of dying, while going 30 kills even with an AR and not dying at least three times is almost impossible.

''yikes. Every tanker who plays the tank will say the opposite with 100% of shield tankers crying after they read your statement :( but i respect your opinion''

Exactly , people will ALWAYS whine if they get killed. Thats what they want? to be able to take 10+ Proto AV shots to the face and survive? thats ALSO not balance.

I've faced tankers that have taken 5+ Proto swarms to the face and i even have their NAMES....
Knight Solaire with his missle tank IN a city being bombared by AV nades PLUS my proto swarm, survived. Kills 24/ deaths 1
Frost Byte, Took 6 Proto swarms to the face in his tank,survived and hid while i was ressuplying,. kills19 / deaths 0
BUGGBUNNY LOONEY took 9 Packed AV nades and survived,went to hide behind the red line to regen (thing im AGAINST with vehicles) or recall the tank. 15 kills / 0 deaths manus peak (here were 2 other tanks too...)
NINJAROBOTCHICKEN... (i dont know he had a really long name) took 6 Proto Forge guns to the face from 2 Proto AV specialists and survived... 38 kills / 0 deaths in Line Harvest

I could go on, with names, and numbers, forever (I ACTUALLY WRITE THEM DOWN,with time and date).Im not talking out of my a** here bro.

It really annoys me see people saying how bad tanks are, and then go 25+ kills and zero deaths games for 5-10 games in a row....

''soo anyone gona comment back to my OP, that is okay for skilled infaintry players to go 30+ kills and 0 but its OP for vehicals to do so?''

ITs not OP,but its unfait for a tank to go 30 kills with little risk of dying, while going 30 kills even with an AR and not dying at least three times is almost impossible.

In my (limited) experience, most of the infantry guys that go 30-0 were snipers, 1.4 shut them down a bit with objective cover. Assault players generally lose a clone or 3

No problem with tanks going 35-0 hell I say reduce the price 50% on tanks and there turrets. Tanks are large gun platforms that have the ability to chew through us infantry and one good tanker with a lot of sp invested should be a game changer. They can be killed by av, not easily but 2-3 speced avers can pop it. Same way a infantry can go 35-0 or 35-3 a tank has the ability but the price gives no real reward for going balls deep and making a difference and not sitting on a hill. Untill tanks are proto upped again a reduced price is more than fair.

A proto swarms scrub

Anyone who says tanks do not need infantry support is a fool, I am so glad you took tanks out of the hands of Blam after he said that. Even the M1 abrams needs infantry support, the tank is designed to draw fire (by looking intimidating) but they either run in large colums or with a gaggle of infantry with them. Never solo.

My best swarm suit fully invested to do one thing and pop that git who shot me with a particle cannon costs me 170 thousand isk with damage mods out the arse. That tank may cost 2 million or more. I see no fairness in that. His risk is much more than mine and this game is anout making enough money to run fun fits. I spend 1 to 2 games in cheap gear to recover my money. You spend maybe 10 or more. Ive got no issue with you tankers or tanks and ive been proto aving since god mode chromosome tanks where in. NOW they where a real game to hunt.

I just went 36/0, and killed 4 LAV's, 2 HAV's, a dropships, and 9 of an assortment of installations, and only got 234k ISK. Come again?

you have not idea, even post e3 build (I joined last august) man you'd go into a match and on the other team there'd be like 3 STB-(namehere) guys and you'd know that you were gonna lose, at the time I was in Zion TCD though it was before we had official corps just persistent chat channels. but STB just spammed missile gunnlogis and sagarises and I hated them for it.

Godin, Checkmate, I'm getting the feeling you guys don't play a lot of MMO's from your posts, so let me explain the tanking philosophy that I use.

A tank in an MMO is a defensive character that protects his teammates by having high health, and high defense. He gets the attention of the enemy and survives long enough for his team to kill it. He does not have killing power, all his equipment goes towards survival and health. He is first and foremost a support character.

So yeah, if my tank in 1.5 is a bullet sponge, it's that way by my design. You are guaranteed not to see me top the kill boards, my job will be to make sure that my teammates do. And that is perfectly fair, and utterly balanced. It's only broken if an offensive tank has my level of defense in addition to extreme killing power, and if you'd just read the front page of Wolfman's 1.5 thread, you'll see that's not going to be happening. HAV' pilots are going to have to choose what they want their vehicles to be in the coming build.

Waiwait,what? its not a big deal for a tanker to do it.
If i can go 36-8 in a game, tanker should be able to go 25+ kills and not die once. Ok.

but im agains a tanker going the same kills as me,without dying, then we have imbalance....
Because im dying in order to get my kills,im taking objectives and being fronline soldier to help my team,being run over LAvs , shot by rail and missile tanks alike,, and i do die, and my ADV suits cost 85K each...
So if you die 1 time every 2 matches, it hurts ? but if i die 8 times in 2 matches then im equally f***,with around 1300000isk loss...So yeah.

I dont think a tank going 25-30 kills - 0 deaths in a match is OP.
I just think they are NOT UP EITHER.

Well then im still a scrub-noob bro.Because even while playing vs noobs (i dont pub stomp),and even if i go 25-40 kills in a game, i still get killed at least 2-5 times. There is always Random grenades , grenade spam, a random sniper , a random roadkill, some remote explosives i didnt see,a RAilgun turret sniping me from across the map, a dropship that falls over me for no frekn reason at all, the:'' im better i can take on all 3 of them! '' thought and soon realize im in a room with 3-4 heavies with ADV HMG at CQ, LOL....etc...

Seems i still have much to learn.

And as you say, it might be only my luck,because most tankers i face , are badasses. AND I HAVE proto Swarms, ADV grenades and PROTO FG.....

Your answer is right there, the tankers want to be unstoppable killing machines cause well they wanna, and the infantry don't want to go back to chromosome days where it was all tanks and nothing else mattered. The attitude of both sides is what got tanks to their current position, both from the infatry side over whining and the tanker side not willing to make any concessions about how much of a mess they were creating on the battlefield. CCP put their foot down and said fine we are reworking it, heres some crappy tanks to play with in the mean time.

If the infantry player going 30-0 required a special type of bullet and special type of weapon to kill him which was only useful against this one player, then I might agree with you.

Bro it used to be only two predictable and permanent spawn points so all a Sagaris tanker had to do was park closeby and just glue down the R1 button to go 70+ game after game after game.

It was the days of ten proto AV infantry and one tank and it was infantry dies, dies, dies,dies....rage quit the game and hope for another match with no tanks.

Simple.

Infantry player going 30-0 is still an infantry player, and are vulnerable to everything in the game. Heck, a lucky grenade will take him out insantly. Even a militia AR can wipe him off the face of the planet in less than a second.

Tankers on the other hand, require dedicated AV, which often puts the infantry player using it at a great disadvantage to the other 15 people in the match that aren't using tanks (but are in fact specifically hunting other infantry players).

And unlike the infantry player who is vulnerable to everything, tanks are only vulnerable to AV but are useful against everything else in the game. Their only disadvantage is AV, but they have an advantage over all, including other vehicles (except for perhaps another tanker, in which case they are only matched).


Comparing a infantry player going 30-0 and a tanker going 30-0 is comparing apples to oranges. Think about it this way, what if you had to choose your tanks weapon fittings in two ways:

1) Is only useful against infantry, and you are completely vulnerable to other tanks and vehicles.
2) Is only useful against other vehicles, and you are completely vulnerable to infantry.