still easy to get around Copy fitting ok maddy rail fitting 1 ammo is out let's call in maddy rail fitting 2 ect ect. easy to get around.

Something tells me that Dropships will find a nice niche in the Transporting of Troops and resupplying of HAVs.

Actually I've thought some more about the proposed emphasis on active modules. And I've gotta admit, as a pilot, I really don't like them.

The main difficulty in keeping our flying paper pinatas alive is that there are so many directions from which danger can come without warning. Rail tanks, forge guns, enemy drop ships, RDVs, buildings, swarms, turrets. And the players attention is usually completely concerned with anticipating and avoiding those attacks, and now you are basically proposing to add a new system that we will have to micromanage and monitor.

I thought you said these changes are meant to make it more fun.

And whilst we're at it. Can we get weather and clouds in those skies? So drop ships can enjoy a slight bit of cover.

I'm not specialized in any vehicles, buuut one thing that CCP HAVE to fix is the Logi LAV. It is stroger than some tanks and it is not fair to throw 3 packed av nades (1300 hp damage) to damage only half the shield of the damn LAV. They are supposed to be Light Armored, not those cluster-fackud monsters.

Buuut, again, i am not specialized in vehicles so this is just my poor theory.

it is bad game mechanics to have to go through a radial menu to select active modules in the middle of a fight. i have always had a problem with this. Either controls need to be more streamlined, not necessarily a one button thing, but def streamlined, or active modules need to be accessed in a different manner.

It is stupidly easy to select the wrong module on the radial menu as well, as the icons are small and close together. I have lost many a tank to this, compounded with the terrible mouse radial menu bug.

They are incredibly annoying when I play infantry for the reasons you mentioned, but they sre set up like that because of resistances being built into the llav. And this is mimicking real life, look up the MRAV, nicknamed buffalo. Complete with active scanning! Lol.

Say hi to anti tank

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-tank_warfare

Generally means that you die in the first hit. If it doesn't die in the first hit it was a bad anti tank method.

Also the RPG 29 would like to say Hi to the current generation tanks such as the challenger and abrams.

All I got out of this is you're going to nerf vehicles some more by introducing more restrictions to how they work. Also the ammunition idea is terrible, to be perfectly blunt. They already overheat, they don't need another restriction.

The philosophy for how modules are working is basically how they work already. And what we've learned is that it's a pretty terrible philosophy for the investment unless you plan to make all vehicles absolutely dirt cheap.


Why don't you just copy the EVE capacitor and resistance scheme over to Dust instead of continually dumbing it down? You're underestimating the intelligence of the playerbase.

i just jizzed my pants

FINALLY I CAN HAVE

no small turrets
unstupid shield regen
ammo in turrets (meaningful engagements)
balanced modules between shields/armor

Where does it say you can remove your small turrets? What is this obsession with trying to force HAVs to be solo vehicles?

So you ignore that:
Turrets: getting buff with the finite ammo
Small turrets are no longer required
passive armor repair

And these aren't patchnotes either, there is nothing terminal here.

Smaller vehicles kill infantry. Light turrets mounted on LAVs and MAVs are used to assist infantry by killing infantry. HAVs, such as our friendly neighborhood tank are good at killing LAVs, MAVs, and other HAVs. Infantry with AV can kill the smaller vehicles, but taking out HAVs requires a serious team effort.

You know what? I gave it some thought and I am really excited.

I think that with these changes, and the right application of skill points, I am finally going to be able to build my BRICK. A HAV with low offensive capabilities that's compensated for that by being nigh unkillable. I'll be able to provide cover fire and shielding for infantry and hold objectives. I'll hold the attention of my enemy, while my team kills them. For Tank V. tank engagements, the strategy will simply be to outlast their offensive burst and then attack or escape.

This is a really big deal, I'm stoked! A tank you can TANK in. That's what I've always wanted.

From the OP:
Armor has no native regen.

read before you type. CCP said they will start 1.5 with a limited selection of mods. Shield tanks will get an active shield booster and armor tanks will get a passive armor rep mod. There will not be any active armor hardener, at least thats how i read the post.

unless i myself missed something, but im pretty sure i didnt

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Thanks for the comments guys. Remnant and I are reading and itGÇÖs given us things stuff to think about. I donGÇÖt have time to respond to everything right now but IGÇÖll quickly throw a few more details out there.

*When we say weGÇÖre establishing a foundation with the most necessary archetypes that doesnGÇÖt mean youGÇÖre only getting basic and standard. You will have access to proto modules.

*We will be going over AV damage values along with these changes.

*Dropships will be scoring transport based WP rewards (and yes they have more HP).

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Thanks for the comments guys. Remnant and I are reading and itGÇÖs given us things stuff to think about. I donGÇÖt have time to respond to everything right now but IGÇÖll quickly throw a few more details out there.

*When we say weGÇÖre establishing a foundation with the most necessary archetypes that doesnGÇÖt mean youGÇÖre only getting basic and standard. You will have access to proto modules.

*We will be going over AV damage values along with these changes.

*Dropships will be scoring transport based WP rewards (and yes they have more HP).

Buried in replies!

Thanks for the comments guys. Remnant and I are reading and itGÇÖs given us things stuff to think about. I donGÇÖt have time to respond to everything right now but IGÇÖll quickly throw a few more details out there.

*When we say weGÇÖre establishing a foundation with the most necessary archetypes that doesnGÇÖt mean youGÇÖre only getting basic and standard. You will have access to proto modules.

*We will be going over AV damage values along with these changes.

*Dropships will be scoring transport based WP rewards (and yes they have more HP).

*We will be going over AV damage values along with these changes.

*Dropships will be scoring transport based WP rewards (and yes they have more HP).

balance HAV is easy, make the driver and gunner seperate operators then you can buff the standard hull hp in line with what it would take for 2 standard AV weilding infrantry to destroy it.

HAV being a 1 man army is the biggest problem, finite ammo is irrelevant as no doubt well organised people will use whatever resupply options are made available to full effect anyway.

I didnt spec into tanks so someone else could use it

balance HAV is easy, make the driver and gunner seperate operators then you can buff the standard hull hp in line with what it would take for 2 standard AV weilding infrantry to destroy it.

HAV being a 1 man army is the biggest problem, finite ammo is irrelevant as no doubt well organised people will use whatever resupply options are made available to full effect anyway.

balance HAV is easy, make the driver and gunner seperate operators then you can buff the standard hull hp in line with what it would take for 2 standard AV weilding infrantry to destroy it.

HAV being a 1 man army is the biggest problem, finite ammo is irrelevant as no doubt well organised people will use whatever resupply options are made available to full effect anyway.