*single tire rolls down face* MY fellow piolots and I salute 07

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*Dropships will be scoring transport based WP rewards (and yes they have more HP).

Finity ammo!
Thats very good news :|) But, where we can refill? In suply depot or HAV nanohives or nornal nanohives? :)

Good hunting!

ammo depletion makes perfect sense

i agree with it

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Thanks for the comments guys. Remnant and I are reading and itGÇÖs given us things stuff to think about. I donGÇÖt have time to respond to everything right now but IGÇÖll quickly throw a few more details out there.

*When we say weGÇÖre establishing a foundation with the most necessary archetypes that doesnGÇÖt mean youGÇÖre only getting basic and standard. You will have access to proto modules.

*We will be going over AV damage values along with these changes.

*Dropships will be scoring transport based WP rewards (and yes they have more HP).

It also allowed for laser based weapons in the future to use NO AMMO, since that is the advantage they hold. Right now it's like every weapon is an energy battery based weapon it makes no sense

*single tire rolls down face* MY fellow piolots and I salute 07

What I'm taking from that is that damage oriented tanks will focus on active modules. Defensive oriented guys like me will load up on passive modules to maximize survivability over killing power. I'm all about dat defense. WASTE YOUR BULLETS! WAAAAASTE THEEEEEM!!!!

What I read that to mean is: be uber-tanky for a short time, and quite vulnerable for the rest, OR be middle-of-the-road tanky all the time.

That is, the active version will be much tankier than your passive fit for its brief active period. I don't see anything that would suggest that you will be able to tank any better (or worse) than you currently can).

Hmm so far i get it like this:
-Shield extenders/armor plates
massive nerf cause its stated as a "small" boost to HP so we will only get small/medium shield extenders. basically large extenders are dead.

what I red is that your completely changing tanks and leaving av alone again, great...

your also nerfing every aspect of tanking in general.

im not against the ammunition part if we get a module that allows us to regenerate our ammo, put that in and its fine.

the rest if it "make vehicles fun", this is doing the exact opposite of that, if these stay the same to the update, I demand a respect.

Making vehicles "Fun" does not neccesarely mean to make them OP for the ones driving them, witch is where they are right now if you have 20m sp into them, because my 20m SP i got into dropsuits seems to be irrelivant because you guys only look at how much SP i got into AV to rate my effectiveness vs yours and my 1m sp in AV is so low, you actually have a right to the "win" button because you got 19m sp more in there.

A tank right now can go trough 20-30 Infantry, this around 5-6 games if the Tanker inside is as good an Infantry guy who goes 20-3 regulry (completely solo, like me for instance(6KDR)). 100% on the field can kill infantry, but only 10% of it can hurt a vehicle at this point.

1 2m tank destroyed every 5 games = 400k isk spend per game
3 200k deaths per game is 3m over 5 games or 600k spend per game

And then that 1 death for a tanker, is too much for you guys to handle because it costs 2m!!!!!!


My guess is that after the vehicle rebalance with the limited ammo, vehicles will be used more to counter other vehicles or
installations, or to cover infantry for a limited time and stop them from being the infantry lawnmowers that they are today.

Its not hard to check the numbers after a game, each game these days if its 24/0, a tank, 20/0 another tank, 32/0 hey look its that tank again, then you check their second best on the tank team and wow he had 3/3 ...next match a 7/4 guy ...take the tank away and that team would have lost severly.

Next day, aww look that tank is having soo much trouble another 25/0....lemme toss my proto nades at it ....ow ok that took it down to at least 60% ....shields...lets grab a hive and ....aww its already gone ...

Though if they are going to restrict small turret placements, i foresee only single man tanks driving around, each tanker is his own tank.

Tanks really need to be on Par with Infantry 1 vs 1, if said infantry is decked out into an AV role.

Tank > Infantry > AV Infantry > Tank, enganging multiple AV personel should mean certain death for a tank and vs 1 guy it should swing both ways.

I would love to be able to fire from the passenger seat of an lav or drop ship. I'm a horrible shot, but at least I could provide some covering fire. SPRAY AND PRAY.

You talk about tanks being tanks, then if by all means pls, 1 Anti Tank Rocket and yer tank is Disabled, if technology continues as today Destructive force always wins againts its defence its designed to destroy.

I do agree that Tanks need to be more AV then anti personel, your infantry should be there to take care of us, not the tank taking care of us and infantry hunting down the AV guy.

And you are right, right now when the opposing team drops 4 tanks, the game is no longer any fun on my part, seems like fun for one, always requires it to take the fun from everyone else but then again most people are only having fun if they have the OP gun, OP suit, OP secret FOTM fit or a one man army called a Tank.

As i see it, tanks should be a rare sight on a battlefield, not a dime a dozen every match in a game thats about ISK.

actually, irl tanks dont get killed by one person unless they pop a grenade inside the hull, look on youtube and youl see that tanks are tuff to kill, but this game is not meant to be based on real life..

and tanks are meant to kill everything, why else would they have a blaster turret, a missile turret and a rail turret all available for use?

if tanks should be a rarity then why do we see tons of vehicles in CCP's videos about dust? why are they available for personal use? why are they in the game if they aren't meant to be used?

you see, this is NOT meant to be an infantry only game, we have enough of those dull ass games..

then why do want tanks to be more like tanks?

RL tanks have anti personel weapons ontop or in de sides/front, its not the main cannon that is used to dispatch waves of soldiers.

Because promotional videos == gameplay ?

Ow ok, so that makes it ok to have Infantry lawn mowers all over the place? this game is also not just about vehicles you know, we also have enough of those games.

its easy to adapt

its easy to give us vehicle locks

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Thanks for the comments guys. Remnant and I are reading and itGÇÖs given us things stuff to think about. I donGÇÖt have time to respond to everything right now but IGÇÖll quickly throw a few more details out there.

*When we say weGÇÖre establishing a foundation with the most necessary archetypes that doesnGÇÖt mean youGÇÖre only getting basic and standard. You will have access to proto modules.

*We will be going over AV damage values along with these changes.

*Dropships will be scoring transport based WP rewards (and yes they have more HP).

Buried in replies!

Thanks for the comments guys. Remnant and I are reading and itGÇÖs given us things stuff to think about. I donGÇÖt have time to respond to everything right now but IGÇÖll quickly throw a few more details out there.

*When we say weGÇÖre establishing a foundation with the most necessary archetypes that doesnGÇÖt mean youGÇÖre only getting basic and standard. You will have access to proto modules.

*We will be going over AV damage values along with these changes.

*Dropships will be scoring transport based WP rewards (and yes they have more HP).

Just a few words: this is ridiculous and you should be ashamed .... Do not know who suggested these changes, but I assure you that whoever did not fit with the head ....
Thanks CCP from 1.4 I will be forced to lay my wagons and throw months and months of exp not to mention AUR spent within this game.