Turrets

• As mentioned above, weGÇÖll be adding ammunition to turrets.
• Small turrets are no longer mandatory when fitting a vehicle. This should allow for more interesting vehicle setups than before.

I think that's enough for now! We're looking forward to hearing what you think

CCP Wolfman

All I got out of this is you're going to nerf vehicles some more by introducing more restrictions to how they work. Also the ammunition idea is terrible, to be perfectly blunt. They already overheat, they don't need another restriction.

The philosophy for how modules are working is basically how they work already. And what we've learned is that it's a pretty terrible philosophy for the investment unless you plan to make all vehicles absolutely dirt cheap.


Why don't you just copy the EVE capacitor and resistance scheme over to Dust instead of continually dumbing it down? You're underestimating the intelligence of the playerbase.

Turrets will now have finite ammunition. Vehicle vs. vehicle combat generally boils down to two vehicles parked opposite one another firing until someone pops. This is not fun. Finite ammunition allows us to make turrets more powerful while preventing them from being a constant threat; spam a target and eventually you will run out of ammo.

Shield Boosters (A): Instant, emergency use high HP restoration in the heat of battle. Ultra-long cool down times.
Last-ditch injection of HP and a kick-start to shield recharge.

All I got out of this is you're going to nerf vehicles some more by introducing more restrictions to how they work. Also the ammunition idea is terrible, to be perfectly blunt. They already overheat, they don't need another restriction.

The philosophy for how modules are working is basically how they work already. And what we've learned is that it's a pretty terrible philosophy for the investment unless you plan to make all vehicles absolutely dirt cheap.


Why don't you just copy the EVE capacitor and resistance scheme over to Dust instead of continually dumbing it down? You're underestimating the intelligence of the playerbase.

To be honest I really thought that Dropsuits would get teiricided first, but alas vehicles are in dire need of it more so than the dropsuits.

Maybe see the actual implementation instead of criticizing the design philosophy behind it before you get a chance to see what the implementation will be?

Dunno, just seems short-sighted to complain now. Feedback = good, whinage = bad.

i dont see any whining. please keep your negativity out of this great thread

So can we understand from this post, that tiericide is on its way? \o/

Do you intend to temporarily remove/replace current proto AV during this period?

I hate to be a pessimist but all I read was "we have no idea how to fix vehicles so we are trying a bunch of stupid ****" it's going to be a long time before vehicles are fun to drive, boys and girls.

while many things are basically exactly what we have right now, im guessing roles will be more exaggerated, i.e. shield tanks are weak but with regen up the ass while armor tanks are slow moving turrets.

digging the turret ammo honestly.

CCP, how do you intend to work with the entire vehicle rework while maintaining proto AV weapons? Are we to expect worthwhile tanks while we have a base amount of modules and hulls to choose from? Do we just accept that we do not have proto stuff until you bring it in? Do you intend to temporarily remove/replace current proto AV during this period?

As a tanker, what are your thoughts on how they should be replenished while IN battle? Other than supply depots of course.

As a tanker, what are your thoughts on how they should be replenished while IN battle? Other than supply depots of course.

Maybe see the actual implementation instead of criticizing the design philosophy behind it before you get a chance to see what the implementation will be?

Dunno, just seems short-sighted to complain now. Feedback = good, whinage = bad.

They could temporarily add ADV/PRO versions of Vehicles I guess.

Boosting Swarms to high levels temporarily might make sense in context of having possibly super tanks around just to see how hard they are to take down (how many players, swarms, etc.) and check the dynamics of vehicle combat tank-on-tank and the like.

There aren't many other practical AV options, and so it's swarms for starters. They said they'd be balancing AV and vehicles at the same time, so Forges, Grenades, and Swarms will be looked at during this time I imagine. Plasma Cannons will continue to suck.