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Such a bad idea,i bet you are one of the players who wants shield regen to stop when someone fires an AR at it

Not going to have a mechanic where 1 sniper bullet stops shield regen or a recall

But is it kinda bs when im spamming direct hit proto small missiles at a tank and it still recalls at 20%

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Thanks for the comments guys. Remnant and I are reading and itGÇÖs given us things stuff to think about. I donGÇÖt have time to respond to everything right now but IGÇÖll quickly throw a few more details out there.

*When we say weGÇÖre establishing a foundation with the most necessary archetypes that doesnGÇÖt mean youGÇÖre only getting basic and standard. You will have access to proto modules.

*We will be going over AV damage values along with these changes.

*Dropships will be scoring transport based WP rewards (and yes they have more HP).

Vehicle recall is fine the way it is. If anything, it could stand to be a little faster. Sorry if someone has got a chubby for blowing up a ride, but if the pilot is reduced to removing it from the field, that's just as good.

I still prefer the idea of an RDV actually coming out to pick up the vehicle.

They've already made their delivery process faster, and if they improve the AI of them, you could have the thing drop cloak, pick up your vehicle, take off, and cloak up within 15-20 seconds.

Since it sounds like a major buff to active hardeners is in the works, and you wouldn't have to worry about the cooldown if you're recalling your vehicle, you just activate those and then do the recall.

This looks pretty cool. It looks like Wolfman and his crew might actually be thinking the same thing as me, but who knows? With any luck it'll go something like this:
For the differences between small and large turrets, I envision ammo capacity being the defining factor between use on infantry and use on vehicles/structures. Small turrets do decent damage to infantry and have greater ammo capacity, making LAV and MAV the go-to infantry killing vehicles. Because these are lighter class vehicles, AV infantry can still take them on. Large turrets have respectable damage, making them kill infantry and harder targets alike. The thing that balances them is ammo count. Because large turrets will have less ammo capacity, most tanks will avoid targeting infantry because it would result in frequent resupplies and abandoning advantageous positions on the map. Of course an HAV could invest in ammo capacity modules, giving them a significant increase in ability to engage infantry without running out of ammo. However this is balanced because the ammo modules would take module slots, thus reducing the HAV's defenses and bringing it in line with the AV efforts of infantry.
The short story:
LAV and MAV kill infantry, infantry AV kill LAV and MAV.
HAV kill all vehicles, large coordinated infantry effort and HAV kills HAV.
Ammo count balances HAV use against infantry.

What is tiericide?

the removal of all tier, standard, advanced and prototype levels would be no more and dust wouldn't be dust

the only modules that are advanced and proto for vehicles are turrets.

doesn't matter, that term is focusing on the entire game, not just this dying class

We currently do not have enough information yet to say that this will end the use of vehicles all together. I think that this is a really big step in the right direction. The vehicle fix sounds simple but its really complex and its issue lies within its basic set-ups. That is why they have issues balancing these things. Could they probably fix it while keeping what they have? They probably could, but who cares, long as the desired results come out, and that's all about making ALL vehicles fun. Currently tanks are the do all vehicle, LAV's are the easiest to use and rack up kills, and dropships are far from being rewarding, and deemed useless by many who do not fly them. Then you have to add on that vehicles all share some similar issues, like high isk requirments for certain fittings etc. People are assuming that because the modules will be basic, that they will all be expensive coffins, but I think things are seriously being over looked based on what stands. CCP Wolfman said he will post more information on the subject, and I think people should give him and the rest of CCP who are working on making vehicles finally see their much needed love, the space and time they need to fix this issue.

- We are rooting for you CCP Wolfman!

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Such a bad idea,i bet you are one of the players who wants shield regen to stop when someone fires an AR at it

Not going to have a mechanic where 1 sniper bullet stops shield regen or a recall

Maybe not 1 sniper bullet, but i've nailed a tank with a Breach Forge Gun, while it was being recalled. It failed to stop the recall.

Care to explain why that shouldn't have stopped the recall?

Hm?

I thought not.

**** off

Such a bad idea,i bet you are one of the players who wants shield regen to stop when someone fires an AR at it

Not going to have a mechanic where 1 sniper bullet stops shield regen or a recall

what game lets you teleport and not get interrupted. if you are smart can never lose a tank by recalling them under heavy fire. Once people catch on no one will lose a tank ever.

CCP have you toyed with adding countermeasures?

May we have any info on your thoughts regarding the pilot suit and the types of numbers it will have such as a single sidearm slot or specific modules to equip that alter tank functionality on the suit itself?

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seeing this page have 20 pages of replies and 1.4 only has 16. clearly a lot of pilots are going to leave if they don't actually balance anything out and it turns out to be the same fail sauce that PC was.

very true..

its just a very hard discussion dealing with something that's never had a real purpose yet has made its mark as an unbalanced **** hole that still have investments.

It's impossible to balance without context. We need to know the intended roles/missions before anyone can declare the OP or UP for said role.

WHERES THE LOCKS CMON YOUR DOING A VEHICLE UPDATE AND NO LOCKS!!!!! DRIVING ME CRAZY GET OUT OF MY LIMBUS!!!!!!!!!!