I remember in codex that was the worst possible option: the deployment system was weird, so the RDV would put the vehicle directly on top of the supply depot.
I personally think that the non-depot deployment should be slow again, while deploying from a supply depot is nearly instant.

Perhaps the best way to handle this is to allow all Turrets to have a passive regeneration for ammunition. Additional items such as modules, Supply Depots, nanohives, etc. can instantly refill or increase that regeneration but by having a passive regeneration on all turrets it will mean that vehicles will not be in a position were they can no longer be of use within a match which I think is the greatest fear being expressed.

please tell me you have done something about recalling damaged vehicles and now those without ammo too

FINALLY NO MORE IDIOTS IN MY TANK GETTING ME FOUND OUT. WORKS JUST AS WELL AS A LOCK! THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO US ON THAT!

Now, for these hardeners. I'm gonna go with it, and ask, are they going to be 50% reduction since you say they're going to provide a massive boost to defenses?

How about slot count?

And for ammo. I hope it's not some ridiculously low count, like 10 for a rail and 150 for a blaster. Those rounds are relatively small. If anything, missile should have the lowest ammo count, because those rounds are fairly large. Will the small turrets have an ammo count? Will they have their own ammo, or will they *puke* pull off from the main ammo count?

Passive ammo regen would defeat the purpose of limiting ammo, it's ment to put vehicles into the same situation as dropsuits where they can run out of ammo and be "in a position were they can no longer be of use within a match" until they find resupply from a logistics or hive or that supply depot that survived being HAV raped in the first 30 seconds of a battle.

Do you intend to temporarily remove/replace current proto AV during this period?

they already said they will begin with a minimal amount of modules and hulls, so we are basically only allowed to use militia/standard stuff. For obvious reasons, continuing to keep proto AV is a stupid idea, esp with the 1.4 swarm buff.

the only reason this would not be the case is if we have a one size fits all tank. this would also **** many people off because we like our sagarises and suryas. not to mention the failures that were black ops tanks and the enforcers

These look like great changes, the two I like are the fact that turrets have ammo, and that supply depots will now help vehicles, so we shouldn't see indiscriminate destruction of installations/turrets/CRU's because ammo will be more of a finite resource.

What was wrong with the black ops tanks, I don't remember ever seeing one on the battlefield.

Were they even available on the market ... or were they just there for show ... I recall they had a built in cloaking device that was never introduced.

What was wrong with the black ops tanks, I don't remember ever seeing one on the battlefield.

You already don't get how we do things.

We destroy turrets as a matter of standard operating procedure, because it's smart to destroy things that are a danger to our tank.

We'll destroy a CRU if we have to, such as if our blues are struggling to hold an objective with a red CRU right next to it.

We destroy enemy depots to deny them the ability to switch suits on the fly, so that they have to die to take out their swarm or forge gun. Plus it denies them infinite ammo when firing right next to it.

Does this mean no more vehicles in ambush (No supply depots for ammo)?

If so

There's no reason to fly Skirm/Dom in this game with all the Red Line Rail tanks, Redline Rail installations, and the terrible ISK payout for such long and dangerous games. Add to that MCC missiles 1 shotting Dropships and RDV's still spawning around everywhere and remind me again why I should play at all, as a pilot?

That would depend on the passive regeneration rate. The purpose of limiting ammo was from what I gathered to prevent vehicles from spamming attacks without thought or care and repercussion. In addition it was to add an additional level of strategy. Passive regeneration at a nominal rate would still mean that vehicle drivers would have to factor ammunition in their strategy but would prevent them from becoming entirely useless on the field if all ammo sources were destroyed.

After reading this. I still don't think I want to spec into vehicles again. If I get a respec that is. In the end if you make tanks usable people will cry that tanks are killing them until you nerf them to crap. I am not spec'n into something when it good for it to be nerfed to **** again. Infantry bound.... maybe my Saga II as well

there is no issue. it is the way it is meant to be. It has nothing to do with armor or shields, it is a racial trait of Gallente being faster than Caldari tech....or at least that is my understanding. This is a direct example of EVE mechanics being brought into Dust. With armor stacked of course armor will become slower than shields

Similarly, once we have minmatar, it will be ****** shields AND armor, but nice speed and 50 guns duct taped to the turret

Until CCP gives you a unique mission for your dropship the simple answer is that there no reason to fly and every reason not to.

- The dropship is highly visible and thus under near constant threat from AV.
- The dropship will now be dependent on active defenses with long cooldowns.
- The majority of dropships are pretty slow to get into position given the nerf to handling so most of your active defense time will be spent inserting and then exiting the battle.

So most of your time will be spent out of battle.

Now if CCP were to create a real dropship only mission, like say troop spotting, you might just be valuable.

With a redsigned scanner and WP's to go with it you would be able to make scanning passes to assist your team and wouldn't automatically attract AV fire due to being an immediate life threat.

Maybe see the actual implementation instead of criticizing the design philosophy behind it before you get a chance to see what the implementation will be?

Dunno, just seems short-sighted to complain now. Feedback = good, whinage = bad.

Dropships could easily be adjusted with a bonus to all module cooldowns (for example) or relevant shield or armor modules, giving them the extra defensive abilities they need ... it's a simple option that could work.