DUST Search - Productive Topic - what Defines 'Indie'

Arcturis Vanguard wrote:

Azura Sakura wrote:

Rogatien Merc wrote:

Soldier of Mawat wrote:

Rogatien Merc wrote:

So let's cut to the chase... with well-established corps like Molon Labe, New Eden's Most Wanted, and MSF wanting some sort of consideration... it is no longer about corps needing to become established or gain experience (5-10 matches a day is an indy corp apparently...).

It is about corps not being able to beat EoN. but still wanting to be involved in PC. They want a farm league that they can be moved down to from the majors. Farm leagues not only house new greenhorn players, but also older guys who may have been injured, replaced, or just lost their mojo.

Basically the community consensus Cubs, is that no corp in EoN. should attack anyone at all whatsoever period, and that no EoN. member should participate in any PC match period.

We're well established? Shocked

Sure we have been around for awhile but we still have a lot of work to do to pull our s hit together.

Yes, you are. And again if the community consensus is that you are not, then like I said... this is all about EoN. corps and players not attacking or participating anywhere on the map but PFC.

Can you explain why you think we're not a indie corp and well established

MSF is an established Corp. They have been around since closed beta with a variety of closed beta vets to green players with low SP/WP s. MSF is technically an "indie" Corp as there is no alliance and a true mercenary organization. Battlefield organization is not comparable to high end corps (team players, synergy, nyain San, etc) but will improve as more battles take place.

MSF would be placed in the mid range "tier" as they are better then corps that are just starting off and can compete with most established corps but possibly fall short of the top tier corps. After all, when we attacked synergy, we were rofl stomped. In the chromosome cup, we gave team players a good showing, but ultimately fell short.

Just my 2 isk, after all you guys know I still luvz you all ;)

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Soraya Xel New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men. 189	Posted - 2013.07.31 17:53:00 - [61] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: if this is the case, then why sign up for the 2nd largest planet in molden heath? Only offer made. It was a fiscally-responsible choice that got us fights. Win-win. And we do greatly appreciate it. Even though our planet's not all blue anymore. CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: designate areas for various tiers? That's tough, I wish that they offered varied-quality districts, so we had reasons for top tier corps to care about only certain districts, and other corps to accept the lower quality ones. Again... CCP. I really love Planet Fight Club for corps that don't have a way to get fights otherwise. I honestly think until CCP makes a better game, we need to get more than 24 corps involved in that sort of system. If it was like... constellation fight club... if everyone had a guaranteed district to get the voluntary fights they want... I'd pretty much be cool with the rest of Molden Heath being "whatever dude".
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 559	Posted - 2013.07.31 17:58:00 - [62] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: I really love Planet Fight Club for corps that don't have a way to get fights otherwise. I honestly think until CCP makes a better game, we need to get more than 24 corps involved in that sort of system. If it was like... constellation fight club... if everyone had a guaranteed district to get the voluntary fights they want... I'd pretty much be cool with the rest of Molden Heath being "whatever dude". I honestly think when you start scraping that far down into the barrel, you're grabbing the guys that are honeslty just getting their feet wet organizing squads effectively in PUB matches and learning how to play at the squad level. They are still having fun in that part of the game... which is awesome. Not even trying to be all 'brutal machiavellian ****' here, just saying not everyone needs to be in PC.
CPL Bloodstone Neanderthal Nation 134	Posted - 2013.07.31 17:59:00 - [63] - Quote I believe the tier system is the better way. I would have ranked my corp a tier 1. yes we had enough members to fill a team but 50% aren't even in Proto suits. At least we tried defending our district ourselves. If we failed we would ring the re-attack. perhaps you could make that a requirement that they defend their districts themselves for the 1st match and can ring the second. I got off the indie planet because i hate to say, they weren't ready for it. hard pill to swallow but im glad i did it. Giving my guys some time to mature SP wise then we will hit it up again. Now, i just have a district for farming ISK to help my newer players get on their own feet.
Azura Sakura Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 395	Posted - 2013.07.31 18:02:00 - [64] - Quote Rogatien Merc wrote: Soldier of Mawat wrote: Rogatien Merc wrote: So let's cut to the chase... with well-established corps like Molon Labe, New Eden's Most Wanted, and MSF wanting some sort of consideration... it is no longer about corps needing to become established or gain experience (5-10 matches a day is an indy corp apparently...). It is about corps not being able to beat EoN. but still wanting to be involved in PC. They want a farm league that they can be moved down to from the majors. Farm leagues not only house new greenhorn players, but also older guys who may have been injured, replaced, or just lost their mojo. Basically the community consensus Cubs, is that no corp in EoN. should attack anyone at all whatsoever period, and that no EoN. member should participate in any PC match period. We're well established? Sure we have been around for awhile but we still have a lot of work to do to pull our s hit together. Yes, you are. And again if the community consensus is that you are not, then like I said... this is all about EoN. corps and players not attacking or participating anywhere on the map but PFC. Can you explain why you think we're not a indie corp and well established
STABBEY Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 121	Posted - 2013.07.31 18:09:00 - [65] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=98650&find=unread Page 3, Nuff Said on the words of these guys. Enjoy I sure did. I know the puppies will show up soon beating there chest again and yet again I will leave another thread and never read it again because the facts speak for themselves.
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers EoN. 998	Posted - 2013.07.31 18:43:00 - [66] - Quote Once again wtf this have to do with the topic at hand?
pseudosnipre DUST University Ivy League 105	Posted - 2013.07.31 18:48:00 - [67] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: Ive gotten to the point where I believe its time that us among landowners and active participants in PC to sit down and make a hard definition of 'indie' as this has several definitions currently and lots of people are abusing the term and using it to ring, hold land, attack so and so, etc etc. ANY corp that calls themselves 'indie' MUST have personnel to wage a battle. ANY corp that is established and experienced cannot fall under this 'Indie' label example: 187, Pro Hic (were independent before), STB, and many others. ANY corp that acquires a preset # of districts is no longer considered 'indie' 3 is the current # still up for discussion removed alliance membership being a factor the entire premise of the term 'indie' is for the little guy... the corp that is up and coming, building up their roster and bottom line are at an SP and experience level much lower than the veteran corps. I now open the floor for discussion. I will edit the OP as we agree on parts of the definition 1. Please quantify "personnel" (roster depth > 24) or qualify "wage a battle" (assuming intent is to prevent no-shows) 2. Please define established (in-game duration, pre-eon/loi war?) and experienced (cumulative character months or corp sp) 3. Taking a third district becomes akin to leaving battle academy and may spell end of corp unless you join eon or can best their top players 3x per 48hrs. Cubs, I like what you are attempting. Considering eon has accumulated a significant portion of the "top" players, an emerging corp may need to wait until most of you get bored/move on = not getting good fights. Only good fights atm will be eon v eon. Just saying
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 304	Posted - 2013.07.31 18:52:00 - [68] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: Ive gotten to the point where I believe its time that us among landowners and active participants in PC to sit down and make a hard definition of 'indie' as this has several definitions currently and lots of people are abusing the term and using it to ring, hold land, attack so and so, etc etc. ANY corp that calls themselves 'indie' MUST have personnel to wage a battle. ANY corp that is established and experienced cannot fall under this 'Indie' label example: 187, Pro Hic (were independent before), STB, and many others. ANY corp that acquires a preset # of districts is no longer considered 'indie' 3 is the current # still up for discussion removed alliance membership being a factor the entire premise of the term 'indie' is for the little guy... the corp that is up and coming, building up their roster and bottom line are at an SP and experience level much lower than the veteran corps. I now open the floor for discussion. I will edit the OP as we agree on parts of the definition 1. I do not agree. My reasons being that later "indie" corporations could be small corps that deal in matters outside of battle. E.G. A Corporation for Gambling. 2. Experience doesn't mean too much. Indie corps will continue to be indie corps as long as they're independent. The difference between them and major corps is that major corps have a lot more assets and resources and connections while indie corps fill in a niche or in other words are small businesses. 3. I can agree on a set number of districts. Any indie corp that actually owns a crapload of districts aren't indie... 4. I feel that any corp that is a part of an alliance isn't indie...Maybe call it an indie alliance but indie corps are usually solo with just allies.
pseudosnipre DUST University Ivy League 106	Posted - 2013.07.31 19:07:00 - [69] - Quote Suggestion: independent status revoked if non-corp players exceeds 2 in any PC. Burden of proof incumbent upon petitioner. Hired tankers may break the utility of this rule, but it's a start.
Arcturis Vanguard Pure Innocence. EoN. 60	Posted - 2013.07.31 19:31:00 - [70] - Quote Azura Sakura wrote: Rogatien Merc wrote: Soldier of Mawat wrote: Rogatien Merc wrote: So let's cut to the chase... with well-established corps like Molon Labe, New Eden's Most Wanted, and MSF wanting some sort of consideration... it is no longer about corps needing to become established or gain experience (5-10 matches a day is an indy corp apparently...). It is about corps not being able to beat EoN. but still wanting to be involved in PC. They want a farm league that they can be moved down to from the majors. Farm leagues not only house new greenhorn players, but also older guys who may have been injured, replaced, or just lost their mojo. Basically the community consensus Cubs, is that no corp in EoN. should attack anyone at all whatsoever period, and that no EoN. member should participate in any PC match period. We're well established? Sure we have been around for awhile but we still have a lot of work to do to pull our s hit together. Yes, you are. And again if the community consensus is that you are not, then like I said... this is all about EoN. corps and players not attacking or participating anywhere on the map but PFC. Can you explain why you think we're not a indie corp and well established MSF is an established Corp. They have been around since closed beta with a variety of closed beta vets to green players with low SP/WP s. MSF is technically an "indie" Corp as there is no alliance and a true mercenary organization. Battlefield organization is not comparable to high end corps (team players, synergy, nyain San, etc) but will improve as more battles take place. MSF would be placed in the mid range "tier" as they are better then corps that are just starting off and can compete with most established corps but possibly fall short of the top tier corps. After all, when we attacked synergy, we were rofl stomped. In the chromosome cup, we gave team players a good showing, but ultimately fell short. Just my 2 isk, after all you guys know I still luvz you all ;)

Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. League of Infamy 768	Posted - 2013.07.31 19:35:00 - [71] - Quote I think there should just be a wall of shame for those that bring in ringers. Just make it known they use ringers. Then maybe the rest of the community can pitch in and have them wiped out of PC with better ringers. Cubs, how much would it cost to have you guys wipe out a corporation? We could all use Kain Spero's service to cover the money transfers.
Soraya Xel New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men. 191	Posted - 2013.07.31 20:05:00 - [72] - Quote Thor, hiring other corps is part of the game. That's why they're called mercenaries. There's nothing wrong with hiring mercs, the problem is hiring mercs good enough to be an IWIN button compared to the opposing corp. Not because there's anything wrong, morality-wise, with doing so. But because it makes the game not-fun currently.
Azura Sakura Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 395	Posted - 2013.07.31 20:15:00 - [73] - Quote Arcturis Vanguard wrote: Azura Sakura wrote: Rogatien Merc wrote: Soldier of Mawat wrote: Rogatien Merc wrote: So let's cut to the chase... with well-established corps like Molon Labe, New Eden's Most Wanted, and MSF wanting some sort of consideration... it is no longer about corps needing to become established or gain experience (5-10 matches a day is an indy corp apparently...). It is about corps not being able to beat EoN. but still wanting to be involved in PC. They want a farm league that they can be moved down to from the majors. Farm leagues not only house new greenhorn players, but also older guys who may have been injured, replaced, or just lost their mojo. Basically the community consensus Cubs, is that no corp in EoN. should attack anyone at all whatsoever period, and that no EoN. member should participate in any PC match period. We're well established? Sure we have been around for awhile but we still have a lot of work to do to pull our s hit together. Yes, you are. And again if the community consensus is that you are not, then like I said... this is all about EoN. corps and players not attacking or participating anywhere on the map but PFC. Can you explain why you think we're not a indie corp and well established MSF is an established Corp. They have been around since closed beta with a variety of closed beta vets to green players with low SP/WP s. MSF is technically an "indie" Corp as there is no alliance and a true mercenary organization. Battlefield organization is not comparable to high end corps (team players, synergy, nyain San, etc) but will improve as more battles take place. MSF would be placed in the mid range "tier" as they are better then corps that are just starting off and can compete with most established corps but possibly fall short of the top tier corps. After all, when we attacked synergy, we were rofl stomped. In the chromosome cup, we gave team players a good showing, but ultimately fell short. Just my 2 isk, after all you guys know I still luvz you all ;) Well. Then I want to join an indie corp
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 562	Posted - 2013.07.31 20:29:00 - [74] - Quote Azura Sakura wrote: Rogatien Merc wrote: Soldier of Mawat wrote: Rogatien Merc wrote: So let's cut to the chase... with well-established corps like Molon Labe, New Eden's Most Wanted, and MSF wanting some sort of consideration... it is no longer about corps needing to become established or gain experience (5-10 matches a day is an indy corp apparently...). It is about corps not being able to beat EoN. but still wanting to be involved in PC. They want a farm league that they can be moved down to from the majors. Farm leagues not only house new greenhorn players, but also older guys who may have been injured, replaced, or just lost their mojo. Basically the community consensus Cubs, is that no corp in EoN. should attack anyone at all whatsoever period, and that no EoN. member should participate in any PC match period. We're well established? Sure we have been around for awhile but we still have a lot of work to do to pull our s hit together. Yes, you are. And again if the community consensus is that you are not, then like I said... this is all about EoN. corps and players not attacking or participating anywhere on the map but PFC. Can you explain why you think we're not a indie corp and well established Somebody already responded with pretty much what I would have said, and I think this discussion has shed a bit of light on Cubs' initial question: Indy means "noob" ... if the corp isn't considered "noob" (i.e. is able to field proto gear, has an established leadership that understands PC mechanics) then they should at least be part of the 'mid-tier' that others have talked about. Because if you are established and you still suck, what is gained by letting you wallow on the map? What do we do if you really aren't capable of bringing good fights because you don't have the leadership/management to impliment proper roles and tactics? Might it be better for that corp to shatter and scatter? Some might quit, but I think the ones who do would have quit anyway. I think some of the members that weren't ready for PC would take the opportunity to find another corp that's not involved in PC and focus on comaradarie and fun while the 'diamonds in the rough' would gravitate toward forming more effective talent-based teams. Sorry if that is a tangent. [Edit: The second paragraph was in no way shape or form directed at MSF btw.]
Yokal Bob BetaMax. 65	Posted - 2013.07.31 21:17:00 - [75] - Quote I like the idea of the tier system proposed. i think the tiers should be defined by the level of the players in their corp and how many they can field at one time. secondly we need to consider the power of their allies both registered and those they secretly hide behind. lastly to consider is the assets they have.
pseudosnipre DUST University Ivy League 106	Posted - 2013.07.31 22:09:00 - [76] - Quote pseudosnipre wrote: Suggestion: independent status revoked if non-corp players exceeds 2 in any PC. Burden of proof incumbent upon petitioner. Hired tankers may break the utility of this rule, but it's a start. Follow-on suggestion: Create all-inclusive list of top-tier vet corps here on the forum. Having been a member of a listed vet corp removes your "amateur" status. Corps maintain independent status by insuring that all corp members participating in PC retain amateur status.
Chris F2112 187. 265	Posted - 2013.07.31 22:11:00 - [77] - Quote Yokal Bob wrote: I like the idea of the tier system proposed. i think the tiers should be defined by the level of the players in their corp and how many they can field at one time. secondly we need to consider the power of their allies both registered and those they secretly hide behind. lastly to consider is the assets they have. I think this is good, but it is difficult to maintain that without some sort of police force. The high tier corps would have to sign on in order for this to work as intended. And I doubt that will ever happen.
Yokal Bob BetaMax. 66	Posted - 2013.07.31 22:29:00 - [78] - Quote Chris F2112 wrote: Yokal Bob wrote: I like the idea of the tier system proposed. i think the tiers should be defined by the level of the players in their corp and how many they can field at one time. secondly we need to consider the power of their allies both registered and those they secretly hide behind. lastly to consider is the assets they have. I think this is good, but it is difficult to maintain that without some sort of police force. The high tier corps would have to sign on in order for this to work as intended. And I doubt that will ever happen. it could be something to work on and develop though. if enough responces get through then they would sign it i think
xIc0n1k Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 79	Posted - 2013.07.31 23:27:00 - [79] - Quote Vethosis wrote: 1st, and I always thought indie = corp with no alliance. or a corp that works alone. Considering that anywhere else the term "INDIE" usually means INDEPENDENT which means little to no major backing then the term "INDIE" should not be used to describe these small up and coming corps. Edit: A corp like Murder cakes and 187 are INDEPENDENT (INDIE) corps. No alliance support. No major backing. Fully functioning as lone wolfs.
Red Dot 24601-HA S.e.V.e.N. Top Men. 133	Posted - 2013.07.31 23:29:00 - [80] - Quote Tier levels could work I guess but it seems like a really hard thing to define. There are so many variables. SE7N has been around since closed beta. We were called something different then but our core guys are still the same. I wouldn't define us as Noobs but I also know that we don't stand a chance against the top tier corporations. We play to have fun and whether we win or lose we still manage to have fun. We also try to give all of our members the opportunity to participate which means half of or team could be in advanced gear or lower. My point is that not all corps function in the same way. I don't think that means we/ they shouldn't have an opportunity to participate in PC. The number of districts should probably be the deciding factor. If a corp has more than 2 districts or even more than 1 they should be fair game. However once that corp is reduced to one district they should be offered protection from the top tier corps. However if a corp that doesn't hold a district attacks it they are free game. If a corp cannot hold its one district from unsettled corps then It probably shouldn't be in PC. If an alliance wants to hold an entire planet and one lonely corp is in their way they could offer to relocate them. I think the same thing could be said about alliances. but maybe bump the number of districts up 3 for small alliances (less than 1000 members) and any more than that would be fair game. Or we could say screw it all and just start killing each other in good ol'fashioned combat. However none of this classification and policing will work if all of the corps out there don't agree to it. Personally PFC is the best thing out there right now.

Cyrius Li-Moody The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 541	Posted - 2013.07.31 23:45:00 - [81] - Quote This is probably one of the most hilarious threads I've seen in a while.
21yrOld Knight 187. 42	Posted - 2013.08.01 03:15:00 - [82] - Quote To me it looks like that the Eon. is the U.N. of Molden heath. That looks cool, but it must be a pain also because of how many people are asking for help and definitions.
Jodi Breez Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 0	Posted - 2013.08.01 06:03:00 - [83] - Quote Today MSF attacked dystopian Corp, after beating them the previous night, to find them yet again with only 5 of their Corp members (same as the previous night) and the rest STB. Right before the match started (in the war barge) dystopian member then proceeded to leave and more SVER came to tally a whopping 15 total. Now I understand we are mercs etc etc BUT what is the purpose of this so called fight club, if corps who want to compete with other corps within their same "class" aren't even fighting the corps that own the district? If MSF wanted to fight Sver, we would have attacked SVER not dystopian. Also there are many implications to this system that are troublesome. Let me explain. If a Corp owns a district for X amount of time, clone reserves build up. An attacking Corp, who doesn't own a district, buys a clone pack that contains 100 max clones. If attacking Corp wins their match, they can attack again the next day with another clone pack. So to successfully take the district, the attacking Corp MUST grind down the clones day by day until they are depleted BUT in our example today, BIG CORP comes in defeating attacking corp which causes a lock out for 24 hrs before attacking Corp can launch again. Defending Corp receives 2 reinforcement timers tallying 160 clones at the very least. So you can see how this doesn't go well for the attacking Corp and ultimately becomes a massive waste of resources for them. So if EON or whoever are going to continue trying to implement a continued "fight club" for the smaller corps, they will need to police what goes on. If an attacking Corp shows proof that a defending Corp is not participating in how this club is suppose to run, "Eon" needs to step in and remove the defending Corp from their district and Can then sell it off once acquired back into their hands.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1661	Posted - 2013.08.01 06:16:00 - [84] - Quote Jodi Breez wrote: Today MSF attacked dystopian Corp, after beating them the previous night, to find them yet again with only 5 of their Corp members (same as the previous night) and the rest STB. Right before the match started (in the war barge) dystopian member then proceeded to leave and more SVER came to tally a whopping 15 total. Now I understand we are mercs etc etc BUT what is the purpose of this so called fight club, if corps who want to compete with other corps within their same "class" aren't even fighting the corps that own the district? If MSF wanted to fight Sver, we would have attacked SVER not dystopian. Also there are many implications to this system that are troublesome. Let me explain. If a Corp owns a district for X amount of time, clone reserves build up. An attacking Corp, who doesn't own a district, buys a clone pack that contains 100 max clones. If attacking Corp wins their match, they can attack again the next day with another clone pack. So to successfully take the district, the attacking Corp MUST grind down the clones day by day until they are depleted BUT in our example today, BIG CORP comes in defeating attacking corp which causes a lock out for 24 hrs before attacking Corp can launch again. Defending Corp receives 2 reinforcement timers tallying 160 clones at the very least. So you can see how this doesn't go well for the attacking Corp and ultimately becomes a massive waste of resources for them. So if EON or whoever are going to continue trying to implement a continued "fight club" for the smaller corps, they will need to police what goes on. If an attacking Corp shows proof that a defending Corp is not participating in how this club is suppose to run, "Eon" needs to step in and remove the defending Corp from their district and Can then sell it off once acquired back into their hands. Hold on...lol...4 dystopian members left the battle for STB on fightclub?? Fightclub is supposed to be fighting corps on that planet and not for ISK farming. You can farm ISK on your own districts outside of fightclub. But to be honest, MSF, you aren't supposed to take the district from dystopia either. If you attacked them once and won on the fightclub planet, then you are supposed to leave them alone. If you want to fight them again, then you wait until their clones have accumulated and launch. So, if you guys were trying to take the district from dystopia, then I don't blame them for getting people to defend it for them.
Kas Croixe Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 70	Posted - 2013.08.01 06:27:00 - [85] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Hold on...lol...4 dystopian members left the battle for STB on fightclub?? Fightclub is supposed to be fighting corps on that planet and not for ISK farming. You can farm ISK on your own districts outside of fightclub. But to be honest, MSF, you aren't supposed to take the district from dystopia either. If you attacked them once and won on the fightclub planet, then you are supposed to leave them alone. If you want to fight them again, then you wait until their clones have accumulated and launch. So, if you guys were trying to take the district from dystopia, then I don't blame them for getting people to defend it for them. they called STB in on the first match, they had also tried to buy us off beforehand, then tried to cheat us on the pricing of said buy off in the hour before the match. This was the second match where they brought even fewer of their own players, and more ringers, all of them from STB.
Gods Architect SVER True Blood 259	Posted - 2013.08.01 07:41:00 - [86] - Quote yay cubs reached a thousand likes without trolling. congrats
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 468	Posted - 2013.08.01 11:52:00 - [87] - Quote So, BHD classifies as a sucky Corp, amirite?
Heavy Salvo Gravity Prone EoN. 35	Posted - 2013.08.01 11:57:00 - [88] - Quote read through this whole thing and so far it seems theres some good progress on the "classification by tier" idea, Agreed in some cases what I would like to call disgraced high-end corps should be moved to a lesser tier HOWEVER only under the correct circumstances I mean honestly while some of the high end corps do end up falling to pieces they still retain veteran players more than able to roll over mid tiers corps and sometimes the fall from grace only makes them stronger simply removing dead-weight taken on during their time in the lime light. Also in regards to the ringing issue in PFC, I know my corp has been guilty of bringing in our alliance however this occured while I was away and the other directors were not online (the 3 members online brought in almost a complete set of ringers from EoN or elsewhere.) my apologies to the corp that was attacking since I got back I made sure to inform the entirety of GP's active members as to the rules&regulations of PFC. The ringing honestly isn't necessary in PFC, I understand not having enough members online can prove to be an issue but its PFC....contact someone in the opposing corporation and inform them that you don't have enough people online and see about having them match you member wise (I dont mean making sure 1 guy is online so you just 1v1 for districts.), **** just a few days ago we had a PC against 0.H but I only had 9 guys online so I contacted Radar and instead of foregoing the battle or turning it into something trivial like an LAV race his corp agreed to match us 9v9 and we had a good & close battle. so just a hint for PFC....TALK TO EACH OTHER.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1663	Posted - 2013.08.01 12:01:00 - [89] - Quote RuckingFetard wrote: So, BHD classifies as a sucky Corp, amirite? Where would you classify BHD? I haven't seen you guys in battle much....just heard from forum talk about your ROFL fights and the Warriors video. So, if I had to guess....I would classify you guys as Medium Tier. But this is one way to determine one's tier. If you are at a level, where you can beat the corps in a specific tier, then you are classified in a higher tier. If you are in a tier where all or nearly all of the corps are dominating you, then you are in a lower tier. Edit: but that's just considering skill. If your corp's members have been around and established with at least 10Msp, then your corp should be considered a vet corp.
Knight Soiaire Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1552	Posted - 2013.08.01 12:02:00 - [90] - Quote RuckingFetard wrote: So, BHD classifies as a sucky Corp, amirite? We're the SVER OP newbs who spammed smoke grenades, something along those lines anyway.



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