Pages: 1 2 3 4 [5] :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Soraya Xel
New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men.
224
|
Posted - 2013.08.02 15:53:00 -
[121] - Quote
There really isn't a purpose to PC yet, because CCP is scared to actually deliver on the game integration they promised. |
Twisted202
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
278
|
Posted - 2013.08.02 16:01:00 -
[122] - Quote
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:this has nothing to do with anyone trying to 'control' anyone. Its trying to get this insanely large player base to create a universal definition on something that has become a very large gray area in this game. hence the title: 'Productive Topic' I know Twisted, if the topic doesn't say 'Potato' it just doesn't register for you let me try to break it down P-O-T-A-T-O ok now you might understand the topic of the thread
"insanely large player base" thats real nice cubs, we nearly match call of duty with our player base.
This topic is only productive for you and the smallest corps in the game that are on the forums and speak english. You have conquered all this land now you are using it to protect yourself. EONs homeland is covered from the north, west and south, which means corps can only send troops from the east with struggle.
All you have done is filled in security threats with small corps because they will not be attacked by large corps, this started when you filled up SI planets with small corps so they couldn't take their land back. |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers EoN.
1009
|
Posted - 2013.08.02 21:24:00 -
[123] - Quote
Hmmmm funny how Sha was on board with it and actually helped me get this going in the first place. He is not given enough credit but he worked with me to secure the area for them.
O, sorry... potato
Now im sure it all makes sense |
Gawen Eadan
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
29
|
Posted - 2013.08.04 04:40:00 -
[124] - Quote
Putting it out there but could you or someone in similar power in EON, dust side, state what the "rules" of fightclub are, clearly?
My corp wants to get into it, and we're obviously capable of attacking districts and pushing people out, and being active members. But today we attacked Dystopia for what should have been the winning match to take the district. Not to count our eggs before they're hatched but based on last night it seemed obvious. When we got in, we ran into 3 Dystopia's at best, due to server errors people were dropping like flies, but regardless, Outer.Heaven showed up along with with a few Betamax to fill every empty spot they could.
Afterwards a player in my corp received a mail stating: "0.H was told that was a district flip oppurtunity on a planet fight club district . You are not allowed to reup a attack on fight club win or loss. We came in as concord. sorry you didnt know the rules of PC" - I do not know the original sender at the moment, but I was forwarded this, word for word, from the person who received it, will edit when I know.
I figured EON being one of the biggest forces in DUST right now might want to clear things up. Dystopia is hiding behind "rules" now that have not being formally and organized in announcement by any superpower, after breaking said unclear "rules" about pulling high-end corp ringers to replace them in matches for the vast majority.
I have no problem with going against Outer.Heaven, or Betamax, even STB's (thank you about the public apology and quick action), they're good challenges that help us grow as mercs. My issue is finding these corps in fightclub where we're trying to prove our mettle and get a foot in the door is starting to get ridiculous. If Dystopia can't defend themselves from us, why should they own a spot in fightclub anyways? |
Soldier of Mawat
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
133
|
Posted - 2013.08.04 04:50:00 -
[125] - Quote
Gawen Eadan wrote:Putting it out there but could you or someone in similar power in EON, dust side, state what the "rules" of fightclub are, clearly? My corp wants to get into it, and we're obviously capable of attacking districts and pushing people out, and being active members. But today we attacked Dystopia for what should have been the winning match to take the district. Not to count our eggs before they're hatched but based on last night it seemed obvious. When we got in, we ran into 3 Dystopia's at best, due to server errors people were dropping like flies, but regardless, Outer.Heaven showed up along with with a few Betamax to fill every empty spot they could. Afterwards a player in my corp received a mail stating: "0.H was told that was a district flip oppurtunity on a planet fight club district . You are not allowed to reup a attack on fight club win or loss. We came in as concord. sorry you didnt know the rules of PC" - I do not know the original sender at the moment, but I was forwarded this, word for word, from the person who received it, will edit when I know. I figured EON being one of the biggest forces in DUST right now might want to clear things up. Dystopia is hiding behind "rules" now that have not being formally and organized in announcement by any superpower, after breaking said unclear "rules" about pulling high-end corp ringers to replace them in matches for the vast majority. I have no problem with going against Outer.Heaven, or Betamax, even STB's (thank you about the public apology and quick action), they're good challenges that help us grow as mercs. My issue is finding these corps in fightclub where we're trying to prove our mettle and get a foot in the door is starting to get ridiculous. If Dystopia can't defend themselves from us, why should they own a spot in fightclub anyways?
Gawen we were supposed to wait for Vic to handle this. Everybody, please allow our CEO to be told of what went down and for him to do the talking. Some of us aren't quite happy about this and posting while angry just isn't the best idea. |
Gawen Eadan
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
29
|
Posted - 2013.08.04 05:02:00 -
[126] - Quote
Soldier of Mawat wrote:
Gawen we were supposed to wait for Vic to handle this. Everybody, please allow our CEO to be told of what went down and for him to do the talking. Some of us aren't quite happy about this and posting while angry just isn't the best idea.
I wasn't angry, I posted that with a level head and a clear mind. If anything, regard my post as an individual, that it is separate and it does not represent my corp in part or as a whole in any way. |
dy5t0pia
The dyst0pian Corporation Lokun Listamenn
11
|
Posted - 2013.08.04 07:37:00 -
[127] - Quote
I am on fight club and I too am confused with all the rules there seem to have been some no one ever told me, but when I acquired the district (in order to train my guys up while also increasing my numbers, which I was told that is what this planet was about) I was told by Sha Kharn that the district would not be taken from me, I am more than happy to give the district up when I feel I and my corp can make a real move into PC, but until then I would like to keep it. I am also more than happy to fight you guys corp against corp for training as long as my clone count is not so low I am in jeopardy of losing my district. You guys are pretty good and I feel my guys could benefit from the experience of fighting you. If you'll let me get my clone count up and I am able to make some ISK again I will pay for some of the matches. |
Godof Thisage
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
0
|
Posted - 2013.08.04 10:39:00 -
[128] - Quote
First of all people should stop complaining about ccp, if u dont like the game dont f**kin play it. Second i also like the idea of having 3-5 different tiers of corps, there should aloso be different areas of new eden for the different tier corps. so higher tier corps dont attack a lower tier district and lower tier corps that attack a higher tier district automaticly rise a tier. the problem would be if a low tier corp gets too many districts and rise a tier what will happen to ther lower tier districts. And most of all the problem seems to b getting every1 to stick to the agreement. my corp would b classed as a low tier corp but when we had a district we were attacked by corps who would obviously b classed as top tier corps.
P.S. if u find any spelling mistakes, keep them sry if i have repeated somthing that was already said, it got kinda much to read |
Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1587
|
Posted - 2013.08.04 12:43:00 -
[129] - Quote
So we're going with the tiered system?
GREAT!
More tags for weaker corps to hide behind. |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers EoN.
1009
|
Posted - 2013.08.04 14:31:00 -
[130] - Quote
Specifics will be discussed soon.
Oddeluf and fight clcub were not the original idea of eon. I believe NF came up with the idea and did nothing to make it happen, while Sha and SI actuallu made the push to get it going and several other corps in and out of eon actually helped get it done.
The 1 rule I know of is that NO ONE is to use clones FROM oddeluf to attack anywhere OUTSIDE oddeluf.
This is a direct breach of the entire concept of planet fight club, and dystopia we all know you have broken this rule.
So u lose your district, don't know what to tell you.
Only rule I know that has been set in stone. I will work on input and we will generate a list (if needed) of rules and conduct on this planet.
I fully agree changes and a contingent policy need to be in place |
|
Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1588
|
Posted - 2013.08.04 15:11:00 -
[131] - Quote
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:Specifics will be discussed soon.
Oddeluf and fight clcub were not the original idea of eon. I believe NF came up with the idea and did nothing to make it happen, while Sha and SI actuallu made the push to get it going and several other corps in and out of eon actually helped get it done.
The 1 rule I know of is that NO ONE is to use clones FROM oddeluf to attack anywhere OUTSIDE oddeluf.
This is a direct breach of the entire concept of planet fight club, and dystopia we all know you have broken this rule.
So u lose your district, don't know what to tell you.
Only rule I know that has been set in stone. I will work on input and we will generate a list (if needed) of rules and conduct on this planet.
I fully agree changes and a contingent policy need to be in place
How can you be sure they used Clones from Oddeluf to attack outside districts?
I'm not saying they haven't, never knew there was a way to tell if they have. |
Wowbagger-The-Infinitly Prolonged
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
9
|
Posted - 2013.08.04 15:16:00 -
[132] - Quote
Thank you cubs, we appreciate it.
and yes, a list is needed. its needed pretty badly right now. |
VicBoss
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
354
|
Posted - 2013.08.04 16:11:00 -
[133] - Quote
Hey cubs need someone to clean them out?
We would do this one free of charge, just keep the fight between the actual parties. |
Twisted202
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
304
|
Posted - 2013.08.04 18:36:00 -
[134] - Quote
AHAHA! EON trying to take matters into their own hands...
Its the sound of the police |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers EoN.
1014
|
Posted - 2013.08.04 21:28:00 -
[135] - Quote
Knight Soiaire wrote:CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:Specifics will be discussed soon.
Oddeluf and fight clcub were not the original idea of eon. I believe NF came up with the idea and did nothing to make it happen, while Sha and SI actuallu made the push to get it going and several other corps in and out of eon actually helped get it done.
The 1 rule I know of is that NO ONE is to use clones FROM oddeluf to attack anywhere OUTSIDE oddeluf.
This is a direct breach of the entire concept of planet fight club, and dystopia we all know you have broken this rule.
So u lose your district, don't know what to tell you.
Only rule I know that has been set in stone. I will work on input and we will generate a list (if needed) of rules and conduct on this planet.
I fully agree changes and a contingent policy need to be in place How can you be sure they used Clones from Oddeluf to attack outside districts? I'm not saying they haven't, never knew there was a way to tell if they have.
Very simple...corp x has a district on oddeluf. Attacks corp y not on oddeluf. Match has 200 clones for the oddeluf owner.
Only way to have more than 100 clones attacking is by having a district from which u launch attacks.
Corp x only has 1 district...on oddeluf
But this topic is being discussed elsewhere. I think we have a better idea now how to approach various corps from this thread. Well done everyone |
Vethosis
Murder Cakes Of Doom
804
|
Posted - 2013.08.04 21:30:00 -
[136] - Quote
thx for attacking a corp without an alliance and that has been in pc for about 5 days :) |
Arcturis Vanguard
Pure Innocence. EoN.
61
|
Posted - 2013.08.05 02:16:00 -
[137] - Quote
The concept of PFC is good for corps starting off in PC and for those who want to have a competitive match without going to a pub. I feel that CCP kinda messed up getting rid of Corp battles in general as the need for fight club wouldn't exists, but that is another topic.
A few flaws I see within PFC starts off with the idea of permanently owning a district. it is unfair for corps who currently do not own a district to have to spend 30m a pop over and over again to gain experience. If a Corp can out muscle another, they should have the right to take it. This creates a few positives. It teaches risk vs reward for corps that own the district. It will also keep a sleeper Corp from funding a larger Corp in secret. The previous sentence states an exploitable situation which I find disturbing.
The idea of ringing for PFC doesn't bode well with me. I understand we are mercenaries first and foremost. We get paid to fight and people cannot always be there for battles, but bringing in larger groups of outside help to win for you is not what PFC should be about. It's for improvement within ones own Corp to be more competitive then you are now. I'm not quite sure atm on how to keep this under control, but if a Corp shows proof that a Corp is not adhering to the rules, it is then up to the powers that be to remove the accused Corp from the district and resell to the highest bidder that falls within the qualifications of entering PFC.
I will leave this for now to allow others to add input and expand on some ideas that I have provided. |
Gods Architect
SVER True Blood
268
|
Posted - 2013.08.05 03:50:00 -
[138] - Quote
This is interesting to read the thread, what I want to know is if someone breaks the rules will EON fine or take action? Arcturis is correct, we are mercs that is what this whole game is about. I wonder will EON infer when they believe an action does not suit their interest. May it be to make it better for PC or whatever. I only bring this out cuz EON hit a indie corp, now I don't give a damn what EON does but if EON is policing this small area then I would like to know the rules and consequences, that is all thank you |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers EoN.
1017
|
Posted - 2013.08.05 04:02:00 -
[139] - Quote
Gods Architect wrote:This is interesting to read the thread, what I want to know is if someone breaks the rules will EON fine or take action? Arcturis is correct, we are mercs that is what this whole game is about. I wonder will EON infer when they believe an action does not suit their interest. May it be to make it better for PC or whatever. I only bring this out cuz EON hit a indie corp, now I don't give a damn what EON does but if EON is policing this small area then I would like to know the rules and consequences, that is all thank you
Good points, and we haven't gotten that far yet.
Altbrard is the only true low/mid tier planet that is off limits for larger corps. Osvetur was supposed to, and may yet be, undecided there. Anything outside this is fair game for all and every corp that has purchased thru me is well aware of this |
Godof Thisage
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
0
|
Posted - 2013.08.05 11:11:00 -
[140] - Quote
So do i get this right there is 1 planet that is for low tier corps only. what defines a low tier corp has not yet been decided??? just for clarification if this is the case how many districts r on this planet?? |
|
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers EoN.
1126
|
Posted - 2013.08.05 18:09:00 -
[141] - Quote
Godof Thisage wrote:So do i get this right there is 1 planet that is for low tier corps only. what defines a low tier corp has not yet been decided??? just for clarification if this is the case how many districts r on this planet??
yes Altbrard (in Almur) is a designated low tier planet. It has been very active since its inception and major corps have been absent from the landscape.
yes there are persistent issues with ringers, but the 1 underlying rule of the planet is that no high tier players are to be attacking on the behalf of anyone on this planet.
To my knowledge this has not happened, although defending is a different story.
districts here are constantly being disputed, as many other low/middle tier corps are trying to work their way in here as well.
there have been a few district flips, but I personally police Altbrard and all inhabitants remain following the simple rules in place.
all low and middle tier corps are encouraged to fight here, and the planet remains highly active
and there is currently 1 district for sale to get in here.
|
Skipper Jones
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
606
|
Posted - 2013.08.08 18:18:00 -
[142] - Quote
Indie is referring to independent.
Any corporation that is independent is indie. So basically if your corporation is not receiving help or is standing on its own two feet is indie.
Not that hard. The number of districts, how good they are don't dictate if they are independent or not. |
Godof Thisage
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
0
|
Posted - 2013.08.08 18:21:00 -
[143] - Quote
i think indie is no longer short for independent in this case. |
Xxgeneral Xxshots
Famous.OTF Only The Famous
7
|
Posted - 2013.08.09 13:34:00 -
[144] - Quote
You know what I respect just the thought of what you're trying to do for everyone bro because you don't have to do a damn thing for anyone but you have played the game long enough to take this stance to help with the isues hats of to you. We are working hard on just getting into pc and just like pub matches when we play the best you can one day become one of the best, so if an asz whipping is in order take your asz whipping.
How I see it you would be lucky for a corp like TP show up and spend time teaching you how to become a beast, i'll show up for that lesson every time. For one, playing the best you're guys can see what hell looks like and make a choice to hang in there or join a corp that wants to watch on the sidelines. So what I would be asking is let me get a district, then attack it with the best team you got so we can learn and become one of the best along with them. Why would you want to be attacked by a team that you will beat every time you will stay just as soft as they are.
You know what that gives me an idea, how about a training camp for corps who want to get it in with the big boys on a regular bases to get better, I mean thats what we did in SOCOM we played the best all day every day. So yeah we will get into pc and if we get a district im sure a big fish may come along and take it my only concern is getting back into the game to get more practice from the big fish.
So my advice to indi corps is put that corp wallet to good use, talk to a corp already in pc, (a good corp) get a clone pack and let them whip you're asz until you don't get red lined anymore, oh and don't forget to thank them.
With that being said any corps (elite corps) with districts who would allow us to get some good training in hit me up we would hate for you guys to keep getting board waiting for these ****** crying. |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers EoN.
1128
|
Posted - 2013.08.09 13:39:00 -
[145] - Quote
Xxgeneral Xxshots wrote:You know what I respect just the thought of what you're trying to do for everyone bro because you don't have to do a damn thing for anyone but you have played the game long enough to take this stance to help with the isues hats of to you. We are working hard on just getting into pc and just like pub matches when we play the best you can one day become one of the best, so if an asz whipping is in order take your asz whipping.
How I see it you would be lucky for a corp like TP show up and spend time teaching you how to become a beast, i'll show up for that lesson every time. For one, playing the best you're guys can see what hell looks like and make a choice to hang in there or join a corp that wants to watch on the sidelines. So what I would be asking is let me get a district, then attack it with the best team you got so we can learn and become one of the best along with them. Why would you want to be attacked by a team that you will beat every time you will stay just as soft as they are.
You know what that gives me an idea, how about a training camp for corps who want to get it in with the big boys on a regular bases to get better, I mean thats what we did in SOCOM we played the best all day every day. So yeah we will get into pc and if we get a district im sure a big fish may come along and take it my only concern is getting back into the game to get more practice from the big fish.
So my advice to indi corps is put that corp wallet to good use, talk to a corp already in pc, (a good corp) get a clone pack and let them whip you're asz until you don't get red lined anymore, oh and don't forget to thank them.
With that being said any corps (elite corps) with districts who would allow us to get some good training in hit me up we would hate for you guys to keep getting board waiting for these ****** crying.
hit me up in game and we can chat. or better yet if you have Skype, hit me up: chicagocubsnbears
im quite busy with everything on my plate, and often it takes time to actually meet up. this new cap system this week is making the grind take a lot longer as well, so patience is key ;)
this is a good idea, and is the underlying reasoning for Altbrard, but in reality PC is a blood thirsty, ISK hungry world and its not easy, to say the least, to place someone and ensure their survival |
Mechoj Nomreps
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
89
|
Posted - 2013.08.09 13:47:00 -
[146] - Quote
Our alliance is getting enough practice already and it is indeed a isk hungry world. My advice is to get as much isk as you can because you are not going to make it from your district. At least that is what I am seeing at the moment. |
|
|
|
Pages: 1 2 3 4 [5] :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |