Not sure about point 1 what about small alliance that just want to have fun??

Points 2 yes but point 3, at which point do you become established and experienced??

What would you class as experience? Corps with vets classed as experienced? The amount of battles played in PC??
You find find it hard to find a corp that doesn't have a veteran beta player in it and how will you decide the maximum amount of battles needed to then be classed as Experienced?

Corps that are established??
any corp willing, with enough players and ISK, to enter PC are already established.

How about restricting them to X amount of districts? if for example you take more than 3 districts you leave the "indie corp" status and are open to attack from anyone?
This to me would make more sence then classifiying them Experienced or Established as there is too much of a grey area with it.

But it could work both ways for example if you have more than X amount of districts and then dont want to be in the battle with bigger corps anymore you could give districts away and be reclassed as an "Indie corp"

You could also do it by player count per corp but that i dont think would work aswell as there are many noob corps with large numbers that can't compete at the higher level but still want to play in PC.



yes i agree in many ways but these terms are for the community, there should be something about ringers also, somthing like you can only have ringers from other "Indie corps"

Does it matter?

The terms of anything you guys come up with aren't followed by your alliance members.

I'm not trying to flame there either. Just stating the obvious.

1st, and I always thought

indie = corp with no alliance.

or a corp that works alone.

Bold and underlined areas pure genius, i feel these are the areas that the terms should be based around.

We are largely done with PC.

You guys talk like you are the good guys here. You have the right and the ability to attack anyone you like.

You told us you were attacking because you wanted to fight everyone in our alliance.

You attacked until you took a district. That's fine, because you can.

But that's certainly not what you stated you were doing.

So you lose credibility. And we aren't the only ones. I'm sure all these Indy corps that sent you money for districts love that you can't control the terms of your sale.

Everybody knows that you and Outer Heaven are the top corps out there right now. But what fun is it to wipe everyone out of PC?

Radar gets on here talking like he's a good guy too and they don't stop until they've taken all your districts.

I just don't understand what there is left to prove. If you and your peeps don't allow some breathing room for the rest of Dust then the game is going to shrivel up and die. It could take CCP six months to get some more content in here.

I'm sick and tired of getting my ass kicked by you guys. I'd rather fight guys that are on our level and get better. But we can't.

Hell there are a lot of corps in Eon that aren't getting any better because they aren't able to fend for themselves. At the first sign of weakness they call in the big dogs.

These aren't tears either. Because I'm past giving a **** about PC. But I would like to have some interesting fights from time to time and that doesn't happen 99% of the time in pubs. So WTF is left to do?

I respect what you guys have done. It is/was impressive. But if you guys don't back off you will be the kings of a shitpile.

the little guy, right?

so, we are looking at a alliance-less, smaller-in-numbers, little to no exp in PC corp, right?

'indie' = independant is wut i assumed b4 reading this. but......ok

btw, still wanting to pick your brain for a few minutes, cubs.

And I like it that you are trying to have a discussion. I understand that your guys want to fight.

The system that you have in place is a smart one. Take peoples district then eventually sell it back to them one way or another. Rinse and repeat.

Again I respect and understand it. Kudos for being able to pull it off.

Where does it leave a corp like us? One that's held territory and been able to beat some worthy opponents. If it wasn't for KEQ attacking us everyday the district would have already been taken by Outer Heaven. We are barely hanging on.

The terms of the treaty was supposed to allow us to go to a planet with other LoI corps and rebuild. Which would have been good for you guys long term as we may have been able to provide some decent fights. None of these terms were ever remotely honored. They were over before the ink was dry.

Hmm... I think low tier corps should be given free space when available, mid tiers should pay for it. Once you're stable, you shouldn't need charity, and if you need to buy in again, you should be able to raise the funds.

One of my big peeves with the existing/previous concept: I think regardless of whether a current match is attack or defense, if a corp initiates hostilities within it's own tier, it can't ring people from a higher tier. (For instance, if mid tier Corp A attacks mid tier Corp B, and Corp B retaliates, Corp A can't ring a top tier for defense. Reap what you sow, and such. Let the fight play out.)

There really shouldn't be any restrictions on "ringing" if it's within groups among your own tier. Everyone should be able to fill a 16-man team, even if that means calling in another corp to help.

They're not fill-ins, we function as an alliance. The alliance is "our own players". We took the planet as an alliance, and spread out the districts across the most active corps. (While small, active NEMW players make an extremely strong showing in PC.) But to some how call out our 33-man corp specifically as equivalent to Molon Labe. is outright absurd. In terms of geared, experienced players... our entire alliance as a whole compared to their corp might be a more fair comparison.

How can you be sure they used Clones from Oddeluf to attack outside districts?

I'm not saying they haven't, never knew there was a way to tell if they have.

This is interesting to read the thread, what I want to know is if someone breaks the rules will EON fine or take action? Arcturis is correct, we are mercs that is what this whole game is about. I wonder will EON infer when they believe an action does not suit their interest. May it be to make it better for PC or whatever. I only bring this out cuz EON hit a indie corp, now I don't give a damn what EON does but if EON is policing this small area then I would like to know the rules and consequences, that is all thank you

So do i get this right there is 1 planet that is for low tier corps only. what defines a low tier corp has not yet been decided???
just for clarification
if this is the case how many districts r on this planet??

You know what I respect just the thought of what you're trying to do for everyone bro because you don't have to do a damn thing for anyone but you have played the game long enough to take this stance to help with the isues hats of to you. We are working hard on just getting into pc and just like pub matches when we play the best you can one day become one of the best, so if an asz whipping is in order take your asz whipping.

How I see it you would be lucky for a corp like TP show up and spend time teaching you how to become a beast, i'll show up for that lesson every time. For one, playing the best you're guys can see what hell looks like and make a choice to hang in there or join a corp that wants to watch on the sidelines. So what I would be asking is let me get a district, then attack it with the best team you got so we can learn and become one of the best along with them. Why would you want to be attacked by a team that you will beat every time you will stay just as soft as they are.

You know what that gives me an idea, how about a training camp for corps who want to get it in with the big boys on a regular bases to get better, I mean thats what we did in SOCOM we played the best all day every day. So yeah we will get into pc and if we get a district im sure a big fish may come along and take it my only concern is getting back into the game to get more practice from the big fish.

So my advice to indi corps is put that corp wallet to good use, talk to a corp already in pc, (a good corp) get a clone pack and let them whip you're asz until you don't get red lined anymore, oh and don't forget to thank them.

With that being said any corps (elite corps) with districts who would allow us to get some good training in hit me up we would hate for you guys to keep getting board waiting for these ****** crying.