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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:

Jodi Breez wrote:

Today MSF attacked dystopian Corp, after beating them the previous night, to find them yet again with only 5 of their Corp members (same as the previous night) and the rest STB. Right before the match started (in the war barge) dystopian member then proceeded to leave and more SVER came to tally a whopping 15 total.

Now I understand we are mercs etc etc BUT what is the purpose of this so called fight club, if corps who want to compete with other corps within their same "class" aren't even fighting the corps that own the district?

If MSF wanted to fight Sver, we would have attacked SVER not dystopian.

Also there are many implications to this system that are troublesome. Let me explain. If a Corp owns a district for X amount of time, clone reserves build up. An attacking Corp, who doesn't own a district, buys a clone pack that contains 100 max clones. If attacking Corp wins their match, they can attack again the next day with another clone pack. So to successfully take the district, the attacking Corp MUST grind down the clones day by day until they are depleted BUT in our example today, BIG CORP comes in defeating attacking corp which causes a lock out for 24 hrs before attacking Corp can launch again. Defending Corp receives 2 reinforcement timers tallying 160 clones at the very least. So you can see how this doesn't go well for the attacking Corp and ultimately becomes a massive waste of resources for them.

So if EON or whoever are going to continue trying to implement a continued "fight club" for the smaller corps, they will need to police what goes on. If an attacking Corp shows proof that a defending Corp is not participating in how this club is suppose to run, "Eon" needs to step in and remove the defending Corp from their district and Can then sell it off once acquired back into their hands.

Hold on...lol...4 dystopian members left the battle for STB on fightclub?? Fightclub is supposed to be fighting corps on that planet and not for ISK farming. You can farm ISK on your own districts outside of fightclub.

But to be honest, MSF, you aren't supposed to take the district from dystopia either. If you attacked them once and won on the fightclub planet, then you are supposed to leave them alone. If you want to fight them again, then you wait until their clones have accumulated and launch. So, if you guys were trying to take the district from dystopia, then I don't blame them for getting people to defend it for them.


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Jodi Breez Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 0	Posted - 2013.08.01 06:03:00 - [1] - Quote Today MSF attacked dystopian Corp, after beating them the previous night, to find them yet again with only 5 of their Corp members (same as the previous night) and the rest STB. Right before the match started (in the war barge) dystopian member then proceeded to leave and more SVER came to tally a whopping 15 total. Now I understand we are mercs etc etc BUT what is the purpose of this so called fight club, if corps who want to compete with other corps within their same "class" aren't even fighting the corps that own the district? If MSF wanted to fight Sver, we would have attacked SVER not dystopian. Also there are many implications to this system that are troublesome. Let me explain. If a Corp owns a district for X amount of time, clone reserves build up. An attacking Corp, who doesn't own a district, buys a clone pack that contains 100 max clones. If attacking Corp wins their match, they can attack again the next day with another clone pack. So to successfully take the district, the attacking Corp MUST grind down the clones day by day until they are depleted BUT in our example today, BIG CORP comes in defeating attacking corp which causes a lock out for 24 hrs before attacking Corp can launch again. Defending Corp receives 2 reinforcement timers tallying 160 clones at the very least. So you can see how this doesn't go well for the attacking Corp and ultimately becomes a massive waste of resources for them. So if EON or whoever are going to continue trying to implement a continued "fight club" for the smaller corps, they will need to police what goes on. If an attacking Corp shows proof that a defending Corp is not participating in how this club is suppose to run, "Eon" needs to step in and remove the defending Corp from their district and Can then sell it off once acquired back into their hands.
Jodi Breez Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 1	Posted - 2013.08.01 15:40:00 - [2] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Jodi Breez wrote: Today MSF attacked dystopian Corp, after beating them the previous night, to find them yet again with only 5 of their Corp members (same as the previous night) and the rest STB. Right before the match started (in the war barge) dystopian member then proceeded to leave and more SVER came to tally a whopping 15 total. Now I understand we are mercs etc etc BUT what is the purpose of this so called fight club, if corps who want to compete with other corps within their same "class" aren't even fighting the corps that own the district? If MSF wanted to fight Sver, we would have attacked SVER not dystopian. Also there are many implications to this system that are troublesome. Let me explain. If a Corp owns a district for X amount of time, clone reserves build up. An attacking Corp, who doesn't own a district, buys a clone pack that contains 100 max clones. If attacking Corp wins their match, they can attack again the next day with another clone pack. So to successfully take the district, the attacking Corp MUST grind down the clones day by day until they are depleted BUT in our example today, BIG CORP comes in defeating attacking corp which causes a lock out for 24 hrs before attacking Corp can launch again. Defending Corp receives 2 reinforcement timers tallying 160 clones at the very least. So you can see how this doesn't go well for the attacking Corp and ultimately becomes a massive waste of resources for them. So if EON or whoever are going to continue trying to implement a continued "fight club" for the smaller corps, they will need to police what goes on. If an attacking Corp shows proof that a defending Corp is not participating in how this club is suppose to run, "Eon" needs to step in and remove the defending Corp from their district and Can then sell it off once acquired back into their hands. Hold on...lol...4 dystopian members left the battle for STB on fightclub?? Fightclub is supposed to be fighting corps on that planet and not for ISK farming. You can farm ISK on your own districts outside of fightclub. But to be honest, MSF, you aren't supposed to take the district from dystopia either. If you attacked them once and won on the fightclub planet, then you are supposed to leave them alone. If you want to fight them again, then you wait until their clones have accumulated and launch. So, if you guys were trying to take the district from dystopia, then I don't blame them for getting people to defend it for them. Wait a MIN. We were under the impression that the club was a place where unorganized corps could fight other unorganized corps to participate in PC just like the larger more organized corps. This would mean that taking a district, being able to own a district and then defend said district would all be part of the learning process so said corps could grow and then compete against larger corps creating a larger pool of experienced players. What you are implying is that corps who would like to enter this realm can never own a district as they cannot take one from another fight club Corp. Which also means that corps who have already bought/given a district when fight club was first established can farm isk etc without the fear of lossing a district. How does that Corp learn any sort of risk verse reward? Also on a curious note, how do we know that dystopian isn't being ran by Sver and collecting a paycheck? After all is was Sver we fought the two matches, not dystopian. Seems to me that the idea is literally broken.