Speaking from experience, when you see a group of enemy players sniping from a tower when only one or two are needed, that gives you a fairly significant advantage on the ground.

I think they should add a few more access ladders but still maintain a few towers/buildings with no ground to roof access via stairs or ladders. We still need some Drop Ship landings available.

I think what needs to be more looked at is where our current ladders are placed because there is some seriuosly dumb areas where ladders lead to a small useless section of the roof/building. Better yet fix the roof so there is less of those annoying non jumpable metal sheets all over the place. I don't mind walls and barriers but it makes the roof look like a scrap yard with thin metals walls all over. Game could use some nice perche ballconies, or interactive access points (elevators).

It's come to everyone's attention that people fly dropships onto buildings; tall, medium, and the sorts, and use forge guns and sniper rifles from this great height advantage. This is a minor issue.

One thing that's not cool is that these areas are accessible only by dropship. This means that in order to deal with these roof-dwellers, you must risk going up in a dropship and expend just as much, just to remove a thorn in your side. Now that doesn't sound a whole lotta wrong but it's easier said than done. It could take a dozen dropships to finally evade forges from that rooftop.

However I sure as hell don't want to remove rooftop warfare from the game, that would be totally gremlin stunt. No, to address this weird minor issue that kind of paints the game a little more ugly, is by map development that increases availability of roofs by the ground.

For example, on Communications I believe a small spiral staircase could give access to a catwalk on the first section of the large structure (D+E 5-7) On the upper portion of the structure, a couple ladders could lead down to the catwalks giving all-roof access to the building. This is just an example to portray means of increasing roof access and overall flavor.

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See a Four man heavy squad with rep nanohives down on a roof, you're not going to get rid of them and because they're killing you, they're the one with the OB, not you.

I feel there should be more accessibility to roof tops, Ladders, additional walkways and stairs would be nice. And to combat the "BUT THEY'LL USE THEM IN THE RED LINE" argument, don't place said structures in the red line :)

Heavies dont have equipment slots so 4 heavies would not have 1 nanohive or a repair tool among them.

The most simplistic tactic i have seen is to take a dropship fly really high up and drop a 4 man squad on the forgegunners head. He has a lot of issues seeing and shooting at you if you stay nice and high since those guns have no zoom and inaccurate sights to start with. Maybe you will kill him by simply having a squad mate land on him.

If we have to deal with ladders and stairways, we better get anti-infantry proxy mines.

Or you can upgrade your Scan Precision and Range

Those don't make a sniper rifle viable at -20m.

It's come to everyone's attention that people fly dropships onto buildings; tall, medium, and the sorts, and use forge guns and sniper rifles from this great height advantage. This is a minor issue.

One thing that's not cool is that these areas are accessible only by dropship. This means that in order to deal with these roof-dwellers, you must risk going up in a dropship and expend just as much, just to remove a thorn in your side. Now that doesn't sound a whole lotta wrong but it's easier said than done. It could take a dozen dropships to finally evade forges from that rooftop.

However I sure as hell don't want to remove rooftop warfare from the game, that would be totally gremlin stunt. No, to address this weird minor issue that kind of paints the game a little more ugly, is by map development that increases availability of roofs by the ground.

For example, on Communications I believe a small spiral staircase could give access to a catwalk on the first section of the large structure (D+E 5-7) On the upper portion of the structure, a couple ladders could lead down to the catwalks giving all-roof access to the building. This is just an example to portray means of increasing roof access and overall flavor.

Thumbs up?

On Line Harvest, the sky scrapers and the DS flight ceiling are equal, meaning that you are only like what, 8 meters above them.

Very few escaped the concentrated proto sniper fire.

You were using proto snipers and still didn't manage to annihilate everybody?

You're saying that we should be able to take out prototype heavy suits - which are specifically designed to soak up massive amounts of damage - with one or two shots? While that sounds like it could be fun, it wouldn't be fair to the heavys.

Those that survived on the tower were the ones who would pop up, fire a random shot and duck back into cover (and not all of them escaped). Those who tried to help the team by staying still long enough to aim were dropped quickly. Two people from one squad managed to ruin (what has been called in this thread) a near unbeatable strategy.

People keep saying things like, 'what I would do.' As a wise man once said: "There is no 'I' in 'team'!" Part of a good team-based game is specialities; if you're not good at a particular task, find someone who is. If you try to do everything yourself of course you're not going to have fun.

Line Harvest, Skirmish:
The enemy team and I had set uplinks on opposing towers (East-West). The enemy spawned in a few snipers and called in a tank. I was able to handle the snipers and keep the tank's attention focused on me, so a couple of others from my squad called in a dropship on the ground, flew up behind the tower, hopped out, destroyed the tank and cleared out the uplinks.

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This thread is loaded with a lot of "killing tower and rooftop snipers/forge gunners" is too hard.

If a sniper can't fight you in CQC, it's "tough luck, that is a sniper's weakness and i'm entitled to exploit it".
Yet when you can't fight a sniper in CQC it's all of a sudden, "it's not fair that i can't reach him. that is imbalanced. i should be able to exploit his weakness, and he shouldn't be able to exploit mine."
Fk that selfish, hypocritical nonsense, disguised as logic.

Snipers already got 'nerfed' by the damage profile changes. It's also much easier to get to the top of towers now in Uprising.

Also, you can orbital tower tops now!! WOW!
FFS....

This is precisely the kind of BS feedback I wish CCP would ignore.

No, this does not work. I've been there right by the heavies and some fool took a DS up to us like twice. Lost both. On Line Harvest, the sky scrapers and the DS flight ceiling are equal, meaning that you are only like what, 8 meters above them.

And this is precisely the type of negative criticism of ideas I've come to expect from the users of this forum, but alas, I'm still here.

You simply can't say this isn't logical. If a sniper is sitting on a mountain, can we not run behind or around to take them out on foot? To point out once more the flaw in the arguments of those against this idea: Calling a dropship when there are forge gunners up top is nigh impossible on some maps, completely impossible on others.

If the sniper gets caught in CQC then he should be at the disadvantage, same as if a soldier gets caught out in the open the sniper should have the advantage. If a soldier is good enough to get into CQC with a sniper without dying then that soldier did a good job at avoiding detection and staying alive.

All we're asking is for a way for everything to counter everything like it should be, and currently the only way to counter a sniper is to be a sniper. My tactics shouldn't be limited by my skills or skill levels, only my creativity and wit.

What you're saying is similar to: Only a tank should be able to take out a tank.