DUST Search - Announcement:Dev Blog: Fine-tune Aiming and Controls

INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:

Master Smurf wrote:

Cat Merc wrote:

Bethhy wrote:

Get rid of AA, bring back scoutz, minmatar assault suit, Open field fighting, TTK, speed tanking and the sense of achievement in actually killing someone yourself.

Speed tanking isn't dead, it just evolved from literally dodging bullets to using cover tactics to the fullest.

Stop trying to speed tank like you're not going to be hit ever, it will work out just fine.

Do you think there is enough cover?

Do you think that light frames strafe or turn quick enough to be that much better than bigger ones?

I think AA and the range of some of the weapons make so speed tanking definitely a thing of the past.
- An no, wasnt equating Matrix moves to speed tanking.

The natural speed of the scout is sufficent, the scouts true power is in your passive radar and stealth. I run a proto dampened Dren scout with either Dren shotty or RR, both with remotes, I can do fairly well with barely 300 ehp, but I bait, I camp, I keep moving, and I try to always attack from behind, cover shouldnt be used by the scout suit to exchange fire primarily. The scout should attempt to use cover as a means to hide and track your enemy on passive until they are in the most advantageous position for you to make your kill. Remember if your dampened they will never have a clue you are there. Your natural speed will still give you the best flanking ability without tanking speed. Speed isnt best for fighting, stealth is, speed is great for grabbing objectives, but if you are using a low slot for a kin kat instead of dapening your missing out, after scanners disappear we may get back to speed but for now this is where we are.

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FraggerMike G.R.A.V.E 172	Posted - 2013.12.30 16:37:00 - [211] - Quote Soon(TM) ;) Director of G.R.A.V.E Battles on Youtube channel: G.R.A.V.E
October SnowFox 145	Posted - 2013.12.30 21:08:00 - [212] - Quote Just TWICE sens on DS3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASEEE!!!!! PLEASEEE!!!!!! I m ready to do anything you want just TWICE SENS!!!!!!!! I even ready to give you my soul!!!!!!!!!! -Ü-¦-¦-¦-+-+-â -ü-¦-+-¦.. -+-+-¦ -¦-+-é -+-¦-ç-¦-+-+-¦ -+-â-¦-+-+))
Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 160	Posted - 2014.01.02 22:03:00 - [213] - Quote Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: And yet again us KB/M users are shafted because CCP refuses to allow us raw input. Instead, we get 'aim assist'. We don't need your bullshit systems, we NEED OUR MOUSE AS IT IS MEANT TO BE. This is a console. Stop being a kb/m *** and use a controller. I hope they never listen to kb/m compaints. In fact, I hope they make it worse. GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Suanar Daranaus Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 103	Posted - 2014.01.02 22:22:00 - [214] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: And yet again us KB/M users are shafted because CCP refuses to allow us raw input. Instead, we get 'aim assist'. We don't need your bullshit systems, we NEED OUR MOUSE AS IT IS MEANT TO BE. This is a console. Stop being a kb/m *** and use a controller. I hope they never listen to kb/m compaints. In fact, I hope they make it worse. Must be between 19 and 25 yrs old
FraggerMike G.R.A.V.E 174	Posted - 2014.01.03 16:25:00 - [215] - Quote Suanar Daranaus wrote: Takron Nistrom wrote: Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: And yet again us KB/M users are shafted because CCP refuses to allow us raw input. Instead, we get 'aim assist'. We don't need your bullshit systems, we NEED OUR MOUSE AS IT IS MEANT TO BE. This is a console. Stop being a kb/m *** and use a controller. I hope they never listen to kb/m compaints. In fact, I hope they make it worse. Must be between 19 and 25 yrs old True, the newer gens not much for keyboards. Too used to tap typing. I guess if you've never really used a keyboard, then you don't really know the benefits of one. Director of G.R.A.V.E Battles on Youtube channel: G.R.A.V.E
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 725	Posted - 2014.01.07 13:27:00 - [216] - Quote Get rid of AA, bring back scoutz, minmatar assault suit, Open field fighting, TTK, speed tanking and the sense of achievement in actually killing someone yourself.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1021	Posted - 2014.01.09 13:43:00 - [217] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Get rid of AA, bring back scoutz, minmatar assault suit, Open field fighting, TTK, speed tanking and the sense of achievement in actually killing someone yourself. +1 Doesnt matter in Dust 514: PC. FW Standing. Tanking Type. Other mods than DMG or HP. Does matter in Dust 514: Rifles.
Zyrus Amalomyn Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 286	Posted - 2014.01.20 15:09:00 - [218] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: And yet again us KB/M users are shafted because CCP refuses to allow us raw input. Instead, we get 'aim assist'. We don't need your bullshit systems, we NEED OUR MOUSE AS IT IS MEANT TO BE. This is a console. Stop being a kb/m * and use a controller. I hope they never listen to kb/m compaints. In fact, I hope they make it worse. No. ** your controller for FPS aiming. It's an inferior control input for aiming in an FPS and I'll never consider it tolerable, let alone useful.
Ralden Caster Omega Elite Mercs INC. 28	Posted - 2014.01.22 01:16:00 - [219] - Quote Sniper rifles should have their own ADS tuning slider. Minmatar Dropship. Uprising 1.7.
Toyboi The Rainbow Effect 170	Posted - 2014.01.25 21:57:00 - [220] - Quote this dev post is a ******* joke!!!!!!!!!! support kb/m as you said you would ccp! you fail hard when it comes to this. and i wonder whats your excuse? If you try to land people on the moon and something go's wrong people die..

Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 691	Posted - 2014.01.27 13:21:00 - [221] - Quote Son Down wrote: Ryder Azorria wrote: Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: And yet again us KB/M users are shafted because CCP refuses to allow us raw input. Instead, we get 'aim assist'. We don't need your bullshit systems, we NEED OUR MOUSE AS IT IS MEANT TO BE. Ever considered that their might be a reason for that? Reason : Console players are the peasants of the video game world. Lowest common denominator. That awkward moment when you realize more players use controllers than keyboards on a console...
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 6037	Posted - 2014.01.28 14:41:00 - [222] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Get rid of AA, bring back scoutz, minmatar assault suit, Open field fighting, TTK, speed tanking and the sense of achievement in actually killing someone yourself. Speed tanking isn't dead, it just evolved from literally dodging bullets to using cover tactics to the fullest. Stop trying to speed tank like you're not going to be hit ever, it will work out just fine. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 57	Posted - 2014.01.28 19:02:00 - [223] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Bethhy wrote: Get rid of AA, bring back scoutz, minmatar assault suit, Open field fighting, TTK, speed tanking and the sense of achievement in actually killing someone yourself. Speed tanking isn't dead, it just evolved from literally dodging bullets to using cover tactics to the fullest. Stop trying to speed tank like you're not going to be hit ever, it will work out just fine. Do you think there is enough cover? Do you think that light frames strafe or turn quick enough to be that much better than bigger ones? I think AA and the range of some of the weapons make so speed tanking definitely a thing of the past. - An no, wasnt equating Matrix moves to speed tanking. "Shine bright like a diamond"
Ronan Elsword Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 150	Posted - 2014.01.28 20:28:00 - [224] - Quote I dislike AA. "Nice House you have here Gallente, you can just feel the Freedom." -Looks in Closet- "Dear God"
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC Intara Direct Action Caldari State 248	Posted - 2014.02.10 03:51:00 - [225] - Quote Master Smurf wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Bethhy wrote: Get rid of AA, bring back scoutz, minmatar assault suit, Open field fighting, TTK, speed tanking and the sense of achievement in actually killing someone yourself. Speed tanking isn't dead, it just evolved from literally dodging bullets to using cover tactics to the fullest. Stop trying to speed tank like you're not going to be hit ever, it will work out just fine. Do you think there is enough cover? Do you think that light frames strafe or turn quick enough to be that much better than bigger ones? I think AA and the range of some of the weapons make so speed tanking definitely a thing of the past. - An no, wasnt equating Matrix moves to speed tanking. The natural speed of the scout is sufficent, the scouts true power is in your passive radar and stealth. I run a proto dampened Dren scout with either Dren shotty or RR, both with remotes, I can do fairly well with barely 300 ehp, but I bait, I camp, I keep moving, and I try to always attack from behind, cover shouldnt be used by the scout suit to exchange fire primarily. The scout should attempt to use cover as a means to hide and track your enemy on passive until they are in the most advantageous position for you to make your kill. Remember if your dampened they will never have a clue you are there. Your natural speed will still give you the best flanking ability without tanking speed. Speed isnt best for fighting, stealth is, speed is great for grabbing objectives, but if you are using a low slot for a kin kat instead of dapening your missing out, after scanners disappear we may get back to speed but for now this is where we are.
Ivan Avogadro Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 774	Posted - 2014.02.17 05:11:00 - [226] - Quote INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: Master Smurf wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Bethhy wrote: Get rid of AA, bring back scoutz, minmatar assault suit, Open field fighting, TTK, speed tanking and the sense of achievement in actually killing someone yourself. Speed tanking isn't dead, it just evolved from literally dodging bullets to using cover tactics to the fullest. Stop trying to speed tank like you're not going to be hit ever, it will work out just fine. Do you think there is enough cover? Do you think that light frames strafe or turn quick enough to be that much better than bigger ones? I think AA and the range of some of the weapons make so speed tanking definitely a thing of the past. - An no, wasnt equating Matrix moves to speed tanking. The natural speed of the scout is sufficent, the scouts true power is in your passive radar and stealth. I run a proto dampened Dren scout with either Dren shotty or RR, both with remotes, I can do fairly well with barely 300 ehp, but I bait, I camp, I keep moving, and I try to always attack from behind, cover shouldnt be used by the scout suit to exchange fire primarily. The scout should attempt to use cover as a means to hide and track your enemy on passive until they are in the most advantageous position for you to make your kill. Remember if your dampened they will never have a clue you are there. Your natural speed will still give you the best flanking ability without tanking speed. Speed isnt best for fighting, stealth is, speed is great for grabbing objectives, but if you are using a low slot for a kin kat instead of dapening your missing out, after scanners disappear we may get back to speed but for now this is where we are. The new maps are better, but what are you supposed to do when you need to navigate Magus Peaks? Dart from one rocky outcrop to the next while a combat rifle mows you down from range? Being stealthy is great until you are seen, but then you have poor chances of making it to the next cover object and escaping. Being faster would help of course, but so would more cover objects. It's just unlikely they will change the older maps or sockets at all.


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