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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:

Master Smurf wrote:

Cat Merc wrote:

Bethhy wrote:

Get rid of AA, bring back scoutz, minmatar assault suit, Open field fighting, TTK, speed tanking and the sense of achievement in actually killing someone yourself.

Speed tanking isn't dead, it just evolved from literally dodging bullets to using cover tactics to the fullest.

Stop trying to speed tank like you're not going to be hit ever, it will work out just fine.

Do you think there is enough cover?

Do you think that light frames strafe or turn quick enough to be that much better than bigger ones?

I think AA and the range of some of the weapons make so speed tanking definitely a thing of the past.
- An no, wasnt equating Matrix moves to speed tanking.

The natural speed of the scout is sufficent, the scouts true power is in your passive radar and stealth. I run a proto dampened Dren scout with either Dren shotty or RR, both with remotes, I can do fairly well with barely 300 ehp, but I bait, I camp, I keep moving, and I try to always attack from behind, cover shouldnt be used by the scout suit to exchange fire primarily. The scout should attempt to use cover as a means to hide and track your enemy on passive until they are in the most advantageous position for you to make your kill. Remember if your dampened they will never have a clue you are there. Your natural speed will still give you the best flanking ability without tanking speed. Speed isnt best for fighting, stealth is, speed is great for grabbing objectives, but if you are using a low slot for a kin kat instead of dapening your missing out, after scanners disappear we may get back to speed but for now this is where we are.

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Ivan Avogadro Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 774	Posted - 2014.02.17 05:11:00 - [1] - Quote INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: Master Smurf wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Bethhy wrote: Get rid of AA, bring back scoutz, minmatar assault suit, Open field fighting, TTK, speed tanking and the sense of achievement in actually killing someone yourself. Speed tanking isn't dead, it just evolved from literally dodging bullets to using cover tactics to the fullest. Stop trying to speed tank like you're not going to be hit ever, it will work out just fine. Do you think there is enough cover? Do you think that light frames strafe or turn quick enough to be that much better than bigger ones? I think AA and the range of some of the weapons make so speed tanking definitely a thing of the past. - An no, wasnt equating Matrix moves to speed tanking. The natural speed of the scout is sufficent, the scouts true power is in your passive radar and stealth. I run a proto dampened Dren scout with either Dren shotty or RR, both with remotes, I can do fairly well with barely 300 ehp, but I bait, I camp, I keep moving, and I try to always attack from behind, cover shouldnt be used by the scout suit to exchange fire primarily. The scout should attempt to use cover as a means to hide and track your enemy on passive until they are in the most advantageous position for you to make your kill. Remember if your dampened they will never have a clue you are there. Your natural speed will still give you the best flanking ability without tanking speed. Speed isnt best for fighting, stealth is, speed is great for grabbing objectives, but if you are using a low slot for a kin kat instead of dapening your missing out, after scanners disappear we may get back to speed but for now this is where we are. The new maps are better, but what are you supposed to do when you need to navigate Magus Peaks? Dart from one rocky outcrop to the next while a combat rifle mows you down from range? Being stealthy is great until you are seen, but then you have poor chances of making it to the next cover object and escaping. Being faster would help of course, but so would more cover objects. It's just unlikely they will change the older maps or sockets at all.