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LongLostLust
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:28:00 -
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This game doesn't have enough content to keep the masses interested. I am only back playing after a month hiatus. A hiatus chosen by me due to boredom. To keep this game fresh respecing into different suits/weapons is much needed. I propose a respec available for $10 worth of AUR. I'm not suggesting if you are allowed to respec Jan 1 and don't use it you can use one mid March and then again on April 1. If you buy one and use it a 90 day waiting period is mandatory before another is available.
Forget the OP arguement and the FOTM one too. It's rediculous. You need DUST to be self sufficient and not leach funds off of EVE. All those arguement are from fanboys whom want this game to be EVE.
I haven't spent a dime on this game and have been here since day 1 of open beta, but I would definitely buy respecs and probably for multiple characters. I get that it may dip into booster sales but only the hardcore players buy boosters and would continue to do so. You have a wealth of untapped $ just waiting for you.
This would keep people playing in your world of lack of content. At the rate you can produce content you will have DUST on the level of BF3. That's great but BF4 will have been out for 2 years by then. Your guys are innovative but cannot keep up with the market. Once games like Destiny are released you will have been surpassed. Keep your core guys here with respec flexibility. Give new players hope that after they get a handle on the game and know what they like a respec to get the player they now know they want is only $10 away.
Show your support if you agree! Lets keep this on the front page. A daily reminder on what most people want and not the few vocal fanboys fear.
A couple of things that annoy me while I'm at it. When I look at a guns stats and guns range is listed in all other FPSs. Also names of the map you are about to play are in other FPSs. I get you love to be different but these are some glaring and obvious items that are just a few reasons I didn't think CCP was worthy of my money.
Why is Democracy a great way to lead? Freedom! Give us the freedom to respec and cash in!
Lust Out! |
oso tiburon
The Generals EoN.
101
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:32:00 -
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LongLostLust wrote:This game doesn't have enough content to keep the masses interested. I am only back playing after a month hiatus. A hiatus chosen by me due to boredom. To keep this game fresh respecing into different suits/weapons is much needed. I propose a respec available for $10 worth of AUR. I'm not suggesting if you are allowed to respec Jan 1 and don't use it you can use one mid March and then again on April 1. If you buy one and use it a 90 day waiting period is mandatory before another is available.
Forget the OP arguement and the FOTM one too. It's rediculous. You need DUST to be self sufficient and not leach funds off of EVE. All those arguement are from fanboys whom want this game to be EVE.
I haven't spent a dime on this game and have been here since day 1 of open beta, but I would definitely buy respecs and probably for multiple characters. I get that it may dip into booster sales but only the hardcore players buy boosters and would continue to do so. You have a wealth of untapped $ just waiting for you.
This would keep people playing in your world of lack of content. At the rate you can produce content you will have DUST on the level of BF3. That's great but BF4 will have been out for 2 years by then. Your guys are innovative but cannot keep up with the market. Once games like Destiny are released you will have been surpassed. Keep your core guys here with respec flexibility. Give new players hope that after they get a handle on the game and know what they like a respec to get the player they now know they want is only $10 away.
Show your support if you agree! Lets keep this on the front page. A daily reminder on what most people want and not the few vocal fanboys fear.
A couple of things that annoy me while I'm at it. When I look at a guns stats and guns range is listed in all other FPSs. Also names of the map you are about to play are in other FPSs. I get you love to be different but these are some glaring and obvious items that are just a few reasons I didn't think CCP was worthy of my money.
Why is Democracy a great way to lead? Freedom! Give us the freedom to respec and cash in!
Lust Out! how about no |
Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
72
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:35:00 -
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oso tiburon wrote:LongLostLust wrote:This game doesn't have enough content to keep the masses interested. I am only back playing after a month hiatus. A hiatus chosen by me due to boredom. To keep this game fresh respecing into different suits/weapons is much needed. I propose a respec available for $10 worth of AUR. I'm not suggesting if you are allowed to respec Jan 1 and don't use it you can use one mid March and then again on April 1. If you buy one and use it a 90 day waiting period is mandatory before another is available.
Forget the OP arguement and the FOTM one too. It's rediculous. You need DUST to be self sufficient and not leach funds off of EVE. All those arguement are from fanboys whom want this game to be EVE.
I haven't spent a dime on this game and have been here since day 1 of open beta, but I would definitely buy respecs and probably for multiple characters. I get that it may dip into booster sales but only the hardcore players buy boosters and would continue to do so. You have a wealth of untapped $ just waiting for you.
This would keep people playing in your world of lack of content. At the rate you can produce content you will have DUST on the level of BF3. That's great but BF4 will have been out for 2 years by then. Your guys are innovative but cannot keep up with the market. Once games like Destiny are released you will have been surpassed. Keep your core guys here with respec flexibility. Give new players hope that after they get a handle on the game and know what they like a respec to get the player they now know they want is only $10 away.
Show your support if you agree! Lets keep this on the front page. A daily reminder on what most people want and not the few vocal fanboys fear.
A couple of things that annoy me while I'm at it. When I look at a guns stats and guns range is listed in all other FPSs. Also names of the map you are about to play are in other FPSs. I get you love to be different but these are some glaring and obvious items that are just a few reasons I didn't think CCP was worthy of my money.
Why is Democracy a great way to lead? Freedom! Give us the freedom to respec and cash in!
Lust Out! how about no
How about **** no?
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
680
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:35:00 -
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Forget the FOTM argument? That's exactly what commitment and lack of respecs is about. |
N1ck Comeau
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
637
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:35:00 -
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Any amount of respecs for aurum will be considered pay 2 win.
I suggest either once every 3 months you can get a respec for 10 million isk. then becoming 20 million isk than 30 million, all the way up to 50 million.
Or every 6 months you can opt for a respec no isk no aurum it's just an option. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
680
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:37:00 -
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The 'fanboy' argument is pretty lame to. You call anybody that doesn't agree with you a fanboy.
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GM Vegas
Game Masters C C P Alliance
569
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:37:00 -
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Moved to the appropriate section. |
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LongLostLust
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
36
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:38:00 -
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So far some great arguements from som fanboys. Also you quote me to be the first to respond? What a waste of thread space? I just find that annoying. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
992
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:40:00 -
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LongLostLust wrote:This game doesn't have enough content to keep the masses interested. I am only back playing after a month hiatus. A hiatus chosen by me due to boredom. To keep this game fresh respecing into different suits/weapons is much needed. I propose a respec available for $10 worth of AUR. I'm not suggesting if you are allowed to respec Jan 1 and don't use it you can use one mid March and then again on April 1. If you buy one and use it a 90 day waiting period is mandatory before another is available.
Forget the OP arguement and the FOTM one too. It's rediculous. You need DUST to be self sufficient and not leach funds off of EVE. All those arguement are from fanboys whom want this game to be EVE.
I haven't spent a dime on this game and have been here since day 1 of open beta, but I would definitely buy respecs and probably for multiple characters. I get that it may dip into booster sales but only the hardcore players buy boosters and would continue to do so. You have a wealth of untapped $ just waiting for you.
This would keep people playing in your world of lack of content. At the rate you can produce content you will have DUST on the level of BF3. That's great but BF4 will have been out for 2 years by then. Your guys are innovative but cannot keep up with the market. Once games like Destiny are released you will have been surpassed. Keep your core guys here with respec flexibility. Give new players hope that after they get a handle on the game and know what they like a respec to get the player they now know they want is only $10 away.
Show your support if you agree! Lets keep this on the front page. A daily reminder on what most people want and not the few vocal fanboys fear.
A couple of things that annoy me while I'm at it. When I look at a guns stats and guns range is listed in all other FPSs. Also names of the map you are about to play are in other FPSs. I get you love to be different but these are some glaring and obvious items that are just a few reasons I didn't think CCP was worthy of my money.
Why is Democracy a great way to lead? Freedom! Give us the freedom to respec and cash in!
Lust Out!
How about, for the millionth time , No!
Oh, and if you actually want well informed responses, perhaps you should have chosen to use the search function to see all of the many reasons why regular respecs is a bad idea. |
LongLostLust
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
36
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:42:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:Any amount of respecs for aurum will be considered pay 2 win.
I suggest either once every 3 months you can get a respec for 10 million isk. then becoming 20 million isk than 30 million, all the way up to 50 million.
Or every 6 months you can opt for a respec no isk no aurum it's just an option.
Pay 2 win can't be argued here if you limit how often you can respec. Allowing them for isk is absurd. This game is here to make money. Not because CCP just really likes us. |
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Vavilia Lysenko
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
124
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:47:00 -
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GM Vegas wrote:Moved to the appropriate section.
Did you make sure to flush? |
LongLostLust
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
36
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:49:00 -
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Vavilia Lysenko wrote:GM Vegas wrote:Moved to the appropriate section. Did you make sure to flush?
I see what you did there. Very clever! |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
682
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:50:00 -
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Respecing to FOTM is not pay to win? ISK transfer between DUST and EVE will be here fairly soon. At that point buying ISK will be easy. Limiting respec to ISK won't solve anything.
I like how you declare things as off limits to the discussion to strengthen your point. No fanboys, FOTM, or P2W. Anything else we can't use to shoot down respec for the hundredth time? |
LongLostLust
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
36
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Posted - 2013.07.08 16:02:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Respecing to FOTM is not pay to win? ISK transfer between DUST and EVE will be here fairly soon. At that point buying ISK will be easy. Limiting respec to ISK won't solve anything.
I like how you declare things as off limits to the discussion to strengthen your point. No fanboys, FOTM, or P2W. Anything else we can't use to shoot down respec for the hundredth time? There will always be an OP weapon. No matter how slight. And you assume those that will respec will do so for that OP weapon. Sure some will do so because they need all the help they can get. But I don't care what your doing. I just want to have fun. Variety is the spice of life. If I have to grind the same 6 maps and same 4 game modes at least I can play heavy for 90 days and then logi for 90 if I choose to. Haven't you guys gotten sick of this endless grind. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
682
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Posted - 2013.07.08 16:21:00 -
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LongLostLust wrote:There will always be an OP weapon. No matter how slight. And you assume those that will respec will do so for that OP weapon. Sure some will do so because they need all the help they can get. But I don't care what your doing. I just want to have fun. Variety is the spice of life. If I have to grind the same 6 maps and same 4 game modes at least I can play heavy for 90 days and then logi for 90 if I choose to. Haven't you guys gotten sick of this endless grind.
If you are sick of the grind then take a break. It's not like you are paying a subscription. When you come back you can spend those passive skill points on something new.
CCP is planning on monthly releases for this year so we'll slowly gain variety. Yes, playing the same maps, modes and structures gets rather boring but if you come back after each update there should be something new to look at.
I trained deep into Minmatar Logistics but that hasn't stopped me from making other fits. I run some decent light, anti-vehicle and sniper fits as well. It doesn't take very long to get enough skill points to add a new weapon to advanced and be effective with it. You don't have to spend millions of SP on something to try it out and have fun with it. Hell, I barely have any skills in shield tanking and most of my fits rely on shields. I can still go positive running basic suits with a weapon I've barely trained into.
The point I'm trying to make is there is no need to get a full skill respec in order to have variety. You can specialize in something and still have a wide variety of effective suits. I pick something new every other week to try out. You can too. |
THE GREY CARDINAL
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
153
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Posted - 2013.07.08 16:54:00 -
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No more respec for you son. Learn to have conviction in your choices and live with them. If you can't, well, that's not our problem. You have become spoiled from the resent respecs, but New Eden is about living with consequencs and actions so you will probablyNEVER EVER get your respec...and I'm glad. Take another break. |
Vickers S Grunt
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
127
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:04:00 -
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New gun 12,440 skill points
New suit 24,880 skill points
The look on his face as he realizes he misspent skill points.......... Priceless |
CLONE117
Planetary Response Organization
19
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:05:00 -
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if u failed to use ur skills the first time then ur a dum idiot.
the reason ccp gave in to respecs was cases who put all the sp into a useless skill..
i say let them live with their dum decision and let them suffer the consequences if they want a respec they should lose ALL of there SP to get 1!
that way they cant!! instantly jump into full proto gear!!! |
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
558
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:07:00 -
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LongLostLust wrote:*I don't like this game to begin with and i severely lack the attention span to enjoy this game. That's why i ragequit ever so often and the reason why i want want respecs.
Forget the OP argument and the FOTM one too as there are no other reasons against respecs at all. I don't like it when people disagree with me and that's why everyone that doesn't share my shallow, vague vision of this game has to be wrong in one way or another.
I haven't spent a dime on this game and have been here since day 1 of open beta, but you have to believe me that i would totally start paying you if you allowed me to progress in this game without actually doing anything. Sure i lack any numbers or solid reasoning that could make me or you believe this, but you will definitely make more cash because, magic!
This would keep people playing the game wich i admittedly don't even like nor value in any way just as i think you are all somewhat incompetent. It never crossed my mind that different games appeal to different types of players because there's not a single person that does not share my opinions on this game and others verbatim. I also think that flexibility should be there by default, not earned because i'm oblivious to the core philosophy behind the SP system, nor am i interested in learning anything about it.
Show your support if you agree! Let's keep this on the frontpage of the wrong section. I and a few others will keep repeating the same nonsense indefinitely as you, CCP, are obviously too damn stupid to realize that i keep spamming this dead topic because i'm the minority and my arguments don't hold water.
This game is not worth my money and i have no clue what a democracy is but i like to end my posts with superficial non-statements nonetheless.
random guy Out!*
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Baby Boom-Boom
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:21:00 -
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They should at least give some sort of option to respec until most of the "base" weapons, suits and vehicles are in the game. I mean, c'mon, we have what? Maybe 1/3 at the moment?
There's still no Caldari Light or Heavy. No heavy for any race other than Amarr. Only 2 racial rifles. Only 1 racial knife. Only 2 racial pistols. Only 2 races have any vehicles whatsoever. And so on and so on.
The whole spread of options should be available, but, for some forsaken reason, they aren't. If they had released every option for every category currently in the game, then i would absolutely be on the side of the people who say no to respecs, but it's still a very, very barebones game.
If there was a new ship class introduced into Eve today, but only 1 or 2 out of the 4 total options were only made available for an undetermined amount of time, there would be outrage. You would only be serving 2 out the 4 particular playstyles effectively telling those who would otherwise fall under the other 2 categories to "suck it up."
I don't see how it's even remotely reasonable to tell someone to "deal with their choices" when all the choices that should be there aren't actually there. Holding onto your skill points isn't really a completely viable option either because they obviously aren't going towards anything and there's absolutely no concrete ETA on damn near anything. So, if you want to use a rifle, but don't like any of the Galente or Amarr rifles for whatever reason, you essentially have no options available to you as far as rifles go.
I get people want this to be this super duper ultra hardcore "HTFU" fps, but it's still barely even complete whether they say it's out of beta or not. |
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
685
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:32:00 -
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Baby Boom-Boom wrote:They should at least give some sort of option to respec until most of the "base" weapons, suits and vehicles are in the game. I mean, c'mon, we have what? Maybe 1/3 at the moment?
There's still no Caldari Light or Heavy. No heavy for any race other than Amarr. Only 2 racial rifles. Only 1 racial knife. Only 2 racial pistols. Only 2 races have any vehicles whatsoever. And so on and so on.
The whole spread of options should be available, but, for some forsaken reason, they aren't. If they had released every option for every category currently in the game, then i would absolutely be on the side of the people who say no to respecs, but it's still a very, very barebones game.
If there was a new ship class introduced into Eve today, but only 1 or 2 out of the 4 total options were only made available for an undetermined amount of time, there would be outrage. You would only be serving 2 out the 4 particular playstyles effectively telling those who would otherwise fall under the other 2 categories to "suck it up."
I don't see how it's even remotely reasonable to tell someone to "deal with their choices" when all the choices that should be there aren't actually there. Holding onto your skill points isn't really a completely viable option either because they obviously aren't going towards anything and there's absolutely no concrete ETA on damn near anything.
I get people want this to be this super duper ultra hardcore "HTFU" fps, but it's still barely even complete whether they say it's out of beta or not.
The 'incomplete' argument is one of the few reasonable arguments that can be brought into play. My only counter to that is lore based. The clone mercenary business is new and the megacorporations of New Eden are just now getting around to providing the products. Everybody gets access to the new products at the same time. I don't know of a good lore based reason of removing knowledge of one system and replacing it with another so you're instantly an expert. I'm fairly dedicated to Minmatar based tech and it's irritating that I have to learn other racial systems for now but I am and will adapt when I can go full Minmatar.
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Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
176
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:39:00 -
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Yes, but here it takes you 4 Battles to Skill into a weapon so you can use it and see if its your cup of Merc Blood.
This Game will always be in Beta, sorry my friend.
But it doesn't take long to Spec into a Level 1 gun
Nobody needs EVERY thing maxed to be effective.
Me-Co Out |
Skipper Jones
ZionTCD
271
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:41:00 -
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never mind. I didn't read the post carefully.
Disregard the post. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3140
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:49:00 -
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Looks like another kitten will get put into the showbox. Sorry, Snowball. It's been nice having you around as a pet. |
Vell0cet
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
46
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:50:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:The 'incomplete' argument is one of the few reasonable arguments that can be brought into play. My only counter to that is lore based. The clone mercenary business is new and the megacorporations of New Eden are just now getting around to providing the products. Everybody gets access to the new products at the same time. I don't know of a good lore based reason of removing knowledge of one system and replacing it with another so you're instantly an expert. I'm fairly dedicated to Minmatar based tech and it's irritating that I have to learn other racial systems for now but I am and will adapt when I can go full Minmatar. I've been arguing that we need a final respec when CCP achieves racial symmetry. This can be handled in many different ways, and I wouldn't mind restrictions so you can't go from a proto Amarr Heavy Forge to a pilot with all of your SP's in vehicles. The biggest downside I see is that if we just spec into new things as they roll out we're going to have weird market imbalances since the Amarr Heavy suits will always be in much higher demand than any other race, or certain vehicles will be in higher demand too. It would be much better if there was a roughly even distribution of SP into each Racial variant than having things start out so lopsided.
I don't think this is an issue we have to worry about for a while though. CCP seems content to keep adding MORE roles and making things even MORE lopsided than it already was (e.g. Pilot, Commando).
To the OP: if you want variety play an alt, that's what those other two slots are for. You don't have to be fully speced into something to be effective with it and to have fun with it. You can buy passive boosters and they'll slowly build SP when you're not playing them. Sure you die a lot, but your suits are cheap and it's really satisfying to kill suits that are a higher tier than you. |
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
558
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:50:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Baby Boom-Boom wrote:They should at least give some sort of option to respec until most of the "base" weapons, suits and vehicles are in the game. I mean, c'mon, we have what? Maybe 1/3 at the moment?
There's still no Caldari Light or Heavy. No heavy for any race other than Amarr. Only 2 racial rifles. Only 1 racial knife. Only 2 racial pistols. Only 2 races have any vehicles whatsoever. And so on and so on.
The whole spread of options should be available, but, for some forsaken reason, they aren't. If they had released every option for every category currently in the game, then i would absolutely be on the side of the people who say no to respecs, but it's still a very, very barebones game.
If there was a new ship class introduced into Eve today, but only 1 or 2 out of the 4 total options were only made available for an undetermined amount of time, there would be outrage. You would only be serving 2 out the 4 particular playstyles effectively telling those who would otherwise fall under the other 2 categories to "suck it up."
I don't see how it's even remotely reasonable to tell someone to "deal with their choices" when all the choices that should be there aren't actually there. Holding onto your skill points isn't really a completely viable option either because they obviously aren't going towards anything and there's absolutely no concrete ETA on damn near anything.
I get people want this to be this super duper ultra hardcore "HTFU" fps, but it's still barely even complete whether they say it's out of beta or not. The 'incomplete' argument is one of the few reasonable arguments that can be brought into play. My only counter to that is lore based. The clone mercenary business is new and the megacorporations of New Eden are just now getting around to providing the products. Everybody gets access to the new products at the same time. I don't know of a good lore based reason of removing knowledge of one system and replacing it with another so you're instantly an expert. I'm fairly dedicated to Minmatar based tech and it's irritating that I have to learn other racial systems for now but I am and will adapt when I can go full Minmatar. While i agree that this is one of the better arguments in favor of respecs, the main issue with it is that "base" is a vague term that only takes into account what happens to be released or nearing release at the time the demand is made. This means that, if we were to issue respecs now based on this notion, there is no justification not to issue them in two or three years aswell as there will always be new stuff added to the game, most if which the affected players would understandably define as "base" or "core" for them. It's a slippery slope and opens the gate for an indefinite amount of respecs lest we want to tell the future players to HTFU while others got what they asked for based on the exact same situation and reasoning.
As i do value "racial symmetry" (everything is roughly represented in all four races) i have proposed a possible solution in KAGEHOSHI's thread that is quite similar to his idea with the exception that it tries to solve this issue not just for todays players, but for the future ones aswell.
Even though i am a anti respec hardliner there has been more than one good and productive thread on this subject and more than one interesting idea in that regard. The OP is sadly not one of them and the fact that pro respec advocates seem to find making new threads about it, repeating age old and often badly informed or even willfully ignorant arguments has not helped their case one bit. You can't have a reasonable discussion if you have to start from scratch every single time another respec thread surfaces.
This is painfully evident in this thread. |
CPL Bloodstone
Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder.
107
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:51:00 -
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sure im cool with that. people will always play FOTB (build) and go with whatever is OP. This is about having fun. This is not Eve. Console players will never fully accept the Evetard mentallity of no respec's when they go thru tons of games per year. At least with this method it costs real money, there is a long delay between respecs and both CCP/Player both get what they want.
This die hard mentallity crap just wont fly here. Sorry to say. Though i do understand your point of being a diehard against it as well. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3140
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:56:00 -
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CPL Bloodstone wrote:sure im cool with that. people will always play FOTB (build) and go with whatever is OP. This is about having fun. This is not Eve. Console players will never fully accept the Evetard mentallity of no respec's when they go thru tons of games per year. At least with this method it costs real money, there is a long delay between respecs and both CCP/Player both get what they want.
This die hard mentallity crap just wont fly here. Sorry to say. Though i do understand your point of being a diehard against it as well.
/looks at the logo on the top-left corner of this forum page. |
Vell0cet
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
46
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:17:00 -
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CPL Bloodstone wrote:sure im cool with that. people will always play FOTB (build) and go with whatever is OP. This is about having fun. This is not Eve. Console players will never fully accept the Evetard mentallity of no respec's when they go thru tons of games per year. At least with this method it costs real money, there is a long delay between respecs and both CCP/Player both get what they want.
This die hard mentallity crap just wont fly here. Sorry to say. Though i do understand your point of being a diehard against it as well. The guys with the "die hard mentality" are the ones buying boosters every week (for their alts too), and will be playing in 5+ years, that's a lot more cash than the $10 people are willing to pay on respecs every once-in-a-while. The problem with the FOTM is that a huge percent of the players will all be specced the SAME. It's boring as hell and stupid. It's more fun when there's a variety of suits, weapons, tactics going on. THIS is the reason respecs ruin the game, it makes gameplay boring, simplistic, and homogenous. |
CPL Bloodstone
Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder.
107
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:23:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:CPL Bloodstone wrote:sure im cool with that. people will always play FOTB (build) and go with whatever is OP. This is about having fun. This is not Eve. Console players will never fully accept the Evetard mentallity of no respec's when they go thru tons of games per year. At least with this method it costs real money, there is a long delay between respecs and both CCP/Player both get what they want.
This die hard mentallity crap just wont fly here. Sorry to say. Though i do understand your point of being a diehard against it as well. The guys with the "die hard mentality" are the ones buying boosters every week (for their alts too), and will be playing in 5+ years, that's a lot more cash than the $10 people are willing to pay on respecs every once-in-a-while. The problem with the FOTM is that a huge percent of the players will all be specced the SAME. It's boring-as-hell and stupid. It's more fun when there's a variety of suits, weapons, tactics going on. THIS is the reason respecs ruin the game, it makes gameplay boring, simplistic, and homogenous.
I am one who bought a veteran pack and an elite pack. I pay for boosters like everyone else. I am not always in favor of respecs either. I can see both sides. blatent respecs anytime you want is stupid and would destroy the game.
That being said, you would be in favor of someone who's build gets totally trashed like us heavies and those poor Drop ship pilot just to suffer for a few months while they rebuild their merc slowly and painfully. Sorry bro that will make tons of players just leave like they are already doing in droves. the last respec brought a lot of joy back to some players and that is why im for it with restrictions.
Folks are already playing FOTM as it is. All Tac's or all Flaylocks pick your build |
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