OP, many of the most adamant anti-respec sentiments come from Eve Online players who view Dust as another way to play Eve. No matter what you say they are going to argue against it. It's chic to them to bet 10 years solely on the potential of Dust, because it's a badge of honor to them to have banked on Eve, stayed through it all, and in their minds won.

Some will even go so far as to threaten to quit Eve Online or incite in game riots if CCP does anything to Dust of which they disapprove. It's a culture clash and no one knows just what the future holds for Dust other then a long and rocky road.

I know and get what you are saying. U summed up very eloquently my use of the word fanboy. Would just love a response from CCP to settle it once and for all. Ill bump this daily until an actual CCP response is made and not a troll post as some CCP employees love to do

Posted at 17.05.2013 17:04 by GM Grave
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We would like to acknowledge receipt of your skill respect request and inform you that we have now flagged your account for a skill respec .

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Malkai I think you guys may be reading too much into that. I think there will be respecs after the racials come out. Just you wait. It will help revitalize a failing game

Neither of us can possibly know this so technically, yeah of course. Maybe.

I wouldn't hold my breath though. Especially since this idea has much more support from both sides of the fence and does the same thing without making the skillsystem a pointless grind.

Edit: CCP is discussing this as we speak

Sorry Lust but if they allow respecs they might as well just get rid of SP in general. (Which would be bad)

signed

Sound reasoning lol. Thought provoking! I don't follow you Ronan. Please explain

I'm interested on some numbers on this reverse sp booster. To me it simply sounds like a respec but a much more costly one. I would simply like CCP to say something like "payable respecs would eliminate much of our booster money and we don't feel it will make as much as the boosters will. "

Sometimes I wonder if some of you fanboys so adamantly opposed to respecs are employees of CCP hired to help convince the masses.
Just a comment from CCP would eliminate this arguement for me. I understand this is a free to play game. I get CCP needs to make their money. I'm assuming most of their income is from active and passive boosters. Respecs may eliminate the need to get boosters but putting a time limit on how often you can do it or possibly make each following respec more expensive, would IMO keep boosters as a viable option.

I'm going to ignore your repeated ad hominem remarks for the sake of the argument this time.

Have a read here for why respecs call the SP system as a whole into question (also read everything from Cross Atu on this subject if you want more insight on the other side of the fence.

In a nutshell: The fixed nature of the skillsystem is not a bad byproduct of CCPs warped mind but the central aspect that makes it do what it's supposed to do. Add respecs (for example as by your proposition) and it can no longer serve this functionality and is basically degraded into solely a dull ginding. Of course it is already a grind. But without respecs there's more to it (wether you feel that the implications are good or bad is another question of which the answer i already know).

With respecs, on the other hand, there's not. All what is left is a system that enables pubstomping.

I read your post. Don't think it would kill progression. Respec. Respec. Respec.

Any timeline CCP??

Why? Explain yourself.[...]

+1 OP

CCP breaks things as often as they fix it.

I didn't expect my role to get 'nerfed'. It wasn't even on the chopping block.
If we can spec out of broken things, it would give them good server data to see what things we don't like.

Hey remember this?So every argument has to go into great detail and requires explanation unless you're the one uttering it?

Also, progression was only one of the points i tried to raise.

Excuse the insolence but i find the degree of intellectual dishonesty that i see on your part outright staggering.

I have no problem debating with you. I just asked those whom simply disagreed with Respec to say why. It's a simple request. Continue trying to get a rise out of my by insulting me though. It's working

Sometimes I wonder if some of you fanboys so adamantly opposed to respecs are employees of CCP hired to help convince the masses.

Respecs wouldn't kill skill progression. I read your post as it is what you linked. What I gathered from it is that you think no one will have to play the game anymore to get SP because they can simply respec when they are bored. Sure that may be true but that is why I suggest a limit to how often one can respec.

If you respec into heavy and enjoy the game again for another month, possibly buying boosters during that time, Great for you and CCP. My arguement is due to the lack of content it is too easy to get bored playing this. The game becomes a job and less fun. People simply log on and grind their SP and when capped they quit.

There is a reason I can usually crush everyone on Tuesday and get crushed on Wednesday. The good players are no longer playing after they cap out. It has become a job. To reinject FUN into this I think respecs would do that. When your bored instead of grinding for months just to get the proto suit and weapon you want you can respec and again enjoy the game. Isn't that the point.

Before you butcher my proto arguement I think we can all admit after CCP bought all of our assets and we all have the large bankroll, only proto suits are acceptable.

I have no problem debating with you. I just asked those whom simply disagreed with Respec to say why. It's a simple request. Continue trying to get a rise out of my by insulting me though. It's working

[...]Economic impact is one reason I am against it. We don't have an economy now, but when it does come along the respecs will hurt market speculators and traders who devoted months or a whole year doing their research on key market trends.[...]

I'd like to stress this part. People underestimate the potential impact of fully fledged trading once it's there.

The market will be the strongest connection between eve and dust. To finally get eve players on board for this project they need a way to make ISK out of us and manipulate this part of the universe. As stated, analyzing trends, specialising in groups of products and speculation require a somewhat stable economic environment to work in.

Cutting off the supply of certain items eve side for strategic effects dust side will be a real thing, as will the fueling/causing of wars solely for the purpose of raising demand for more weapons be.

Respecs would allow whole corps to switch their fitting paradigm to whatever is cheap/available, thus granting them an advantage that, in the case of AUR respecs would have been paid for with real money.

No respecs at all please, not ever. New weapon or suit added? Train for it.

@Long

There are many ways to bring in more players without the need of the respec. The respec after all is not the end-all-be-all of game development.

A trade window for starters. We have ISK transfers, why not give us player-to-player window trading?

A small industrial part of DUST like salvaging parts and harvesting minerals that can be used to produce items for personal use or for selling.

PVE mission running. I want to see those rogue drones come at me. I can take them on with my knife.

Exploration. You have to admit. Don't you feel curious what is beyond the red line?

Ability to customize the placement of structures and installations in planetary conquest. This sounds like something that can be done sooner rather than soon.

Fighters. I like to see this now.

Give DUST players who go into factional warfare some loyalty points and access to faction loot.

Give players the ability to invite other players into their merc quarters or at least give us access to a corp office to commingle in.

Give players the ability to switch stations and move between systems without having to go into battle.

Better tutorials.

Get rid of the entire red zone surrounding the terrain during factional warfare or PC battles.

I'd like to stress this part. People underestimate the potential impact of fully fledged trading once it's there.

The market will be the strongest connection between eve and dust. To finally get eve players on board for this project they need a way to make ISK out of us and manipulate this part of the universe. As stated, analyzing trends, specialising in groups of products and speculation require a somewhat stable economic environment to work in.

Cutting off the supply of certain items eve side for strategic effects dust side will be a real thing, as will the fueling/causing of wars solely for the purpose of raising demand for more weapons be.

Respecs would allow whole corps to switch their fitting paradigm to whatever is cheap/available, thus granting them an advantage that, in the case of AUR respecs would have been paid for with real money.

Name the maps and tell me what map I'm going to be playing on.

List the range of the weapons in the attributes

The rest of the racial suits

Use common sense when balancing weapons. Ars shouldn't shoot as far as tacsand lasers. Scrambler rifle should be near the Same statistically as ars

Matchmaking

Game modes based on meta levels

Mak there are tons of things CCP can do to bring in more players. But instead of updates on what is coming and estimates in when it will arrive we get trolled with "Soon TM"

This just adds to the frustration. Either tell us what's going on or say nothing at all. Have the public vote on what should be prioritized to a point