AWESOME! i was so close to quiting this game because i ran into 3 matches of Core Flaylock spammers who just ran logi flaylock. Almost went back to BF3 hoping you guys bring in something special before BF4

It's hilarious that people are actually defending this broke ass gun. I guess you all just don't want to lose your little k/d padding noon tube.

Seriously you cannot tell me with a straight face that ANY of you claiming it's NOT OP could attain anywhere near such a level of combat efficiency with ANY other sidearm.

Gun is broke, and it saps the fun from the game for Anybody NOT using it.

+100

Thats out of about 110 people ive spoken to 'in passing' regarding the flaylock. I dont play very much any more. A good game in beta just got annoying. Closed beta was plagued by op rocket launchers getting instant kills, open beta by massdrivers, how the flaylock got through early stages of quality control i have no idea. Just look to these imbalanced LAVs (which of course will be used as murder taxis) to see just how wrong things can be when released.

so i think there are two overarching problems here

A) problem at hand: how to balance the flaylock.
B) how to prevent this with all the other new things on the way.

Re A), my 2p is that

1) ROF should come down (its an impact sensitive explosive, it should be handled carefully inside the chambers of the weapon)
2) connected to point 1, occasionally they should backfire, this is nothing strange, scramblers overheat.
3) shells that fit inside a pistol will be small, and as such, should do LOW damage.
4) the barrel of a pistol is SHORT, thus accuraccy should be bad.

Sure, keep the weapon for diversity, but it needs to come down a long way (cue the 1000 hardcore flaylock users outrage). Its not even a primary, the fact you are using it as one shows it is op. its nothing personal.

It's hilarious that people are actually defending this broke ass gun. I guess you all just don't want to lose your little k/d padding noon tube.

Seriously you cannot tell me with a straight face that ANY of you claiming it's NOT OP could attain anywhere near such a level of combat efficiency with ANY other sidearm.

Gun is broke, and it saps the fun from the game for Anybody NOT using it.

alright guys I think by now CCP understands that the flaylock needs to be twerked or fixed so just chill..... hold up while we wait for CCP to come up with a patch we're still getting fked up by these flaylocks. GRRRRRR nevermind keep posting on this thread

I find your faith in CCP's balancing skills disturbing.

If the gun is broke, then what are ARs? Rich?

We are taking this feedback very seriously and are looking into a solution that will bring balance to this weapon :) So, hopefully it's to your liking and in the future please don't hesitate with your concerns!

It's hilarious that people are actually defending this broke ass gun. I guess you all just don't want to lose your little k/d padding noon tube.

Seriously you cannot tell me with a straight face that ANY of you claiming it's NOT OP could attain anywhere near such a level of combat efficiency with ANY other sidearm.

Gun is broke, and it saps the fun from the game for Anybody NOT using it.

We are taking this feedback very seriously and are looking into a solution that will bring balance to this weapon :) So, hopefully it's to your liking and in the future please don't hesitate with your concerns!

I find your faith in CCP's balancing skills disturbing.

Please balance the weapon but dont pull a Laser Rifle on the damn thing! Don't kill it off please. Real balance. Try a few different approaches n see what balances best. (Blast radius or radius damage or rate of fire etc.)

R.I.P. Flaylock

Its gonna be a popgun now.

Sloth, do you ever stop trying to make the world a better place?

Have faith - CCP actually did good with the TAC and I think they could do similar with the Flaylock (standardized radius and lower RoF)

People will claim it is ruined but users who actually love it and use it properly should still be effective.

I dont praise CCP often but I think what they did there and what Remnant has posted about weapons and ranges seem fair.

Balance is a tricky thing and requires trial and error.

dont accuse everyone of complaining, that makes you a hypocrite.

We are taking this feedback very seriously and are looking into a solution that will bring balance to this weapon :) So, hopefully it's to your liking and in the future please don't hesitate with your concerns!

Really? How many TARs do you encounter these days? Not many if any. I think they overdid it as they do..

See, that shouldn't be the measure.

I still get killed by them sometimes but obviously if many of the users arent going to learn the strength of a weapon and just drop it as soon as they heard it was nerfed how will you see it.

The same will happen, people will leave the flaylock if they have to pause between shots or have to line up shots more than just spam etc but others who like and use it should be able to use it well.

See, that shouldn't be the measure. I bet many of them went back to GEK's Duvolle's or skilled into ScR's.

Maybe they are the ones running dual flaylocks now.

I still get killed by them sometimes but obviously if many of the users arent going to learn the strength of a weapon and just drop it as soon as they heard it was nerfed how will you see it.

The same will happen, people will leave the flaylock if they have to pause between shots or have to line up shots more than just spam etc but others who like and use it should be able to use it well.

Any idea if we can see changes for the flaylock in 1.3 or will this remain imbalanced until late august for 1.4?

It should be the measure. There's no need for any other weapons if everyone is going to run the AR. The only future proof weapon in dust. Doesn't sound fun to me, but meh, that's where we're heading.

Name a shooter the AR isn't the premiere weapon?