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DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5228	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:11:00 - [61] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Cosgar wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: You say he wasn't aiming, he most certainly was, he was also spamming the trigger, but he was aiming, since most of his shots were from a distance. And he was using trajectory prediction as well. I believe the forge-gunners call it "leading", but nah, clearly he was just shooting randomly How anyone can watch that video and think "man, that guy is skilled" while toasting every enemy in sight with his sidearm and just a couple clicks....just..... This community
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 2065	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:11:00 - [62] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: We are taking this feedback very seriously and are looking into a solution that will bring balance to this weapon :) So, hopefully it's to your liking and in the future please don't hesitate with your concerns! I'll translate: "Okay, we got it, the Flaylock is OP. Thing is, we havent figured out how to balance it yet and being as 1.3 is code/content locked, dont expect anything done until late August/early September at the very least."
Sloth9230 Deepspace Digital 2391	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:12:00 - [63] - Quote Min0r Treat wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Cosgar wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: You say he wasn't aiming, he most certainly was, he was also spamming the trigger, but he was aiming, since most of his shots were from a distance. And he was using trajectory prediction as well. I believe the forge-gunners call it "leading", but nah, clearly he was just shooting randomly exactly you can see how he is shooting by how often he over shoots his firing rate. Meaning he shoots them an extra one or two times he is dead Well, it's better too over shoot than to undershoot shrug
Her Nibs CLONE KILLERZ 8	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:12:00 - [64] - Quote Sensnar Sorsar wrote: No No Noooooo !!!!! i have way to much fun with my little pistol OK...then make the flaylock a primary weapon...not a sidearm. And if you have a flaylock make the side arm a straw with a spitball.....
IceShifter Childhaspawn DUST University Ivy League 137	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:14:00 - [65] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: We are taking this feedback very seriously and are looking into a solution that will bring balance to this weapon :) So, hopefully it's to your liking and in the future please don't hesitate with your concerns! Remembers last time CCP nerfed an explosive weapon and how long it took to bring it back to the realm of usefulness. I remember the Mass Driver! Goodbye Flaylock, we barely knew ye.
Her Nibs CLONE KILLERZ 8	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:16:00 - [66] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: We are taking this feedback very seriously and are looking into a solution that will bring balance to this weapon :) So, hopefully it's to your liking and in the future please don't hesitate with your concerns! I'll translate: "Okay, we got it, the Flaylock is OP. Thing is, we havent figured out how to balance it yet and being as 1.3 is code/content locked, dont expect anything done until late August/early September at the very least." THANK YOU
Min0r Treat Expert Intervention Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:17:00 - [67] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: We are taking this feedback very seriously and are looking into a solution that will bring balance to this weapon :) So, hopefully it's to your liking and in the future please don't hesitate with your concerns! I'll translate: "Okay, we got it, the Flaylock is OP. Thing is, we havent figured out how to balance it yet and being as 1.3 is code/content locked, dont expect anything done until late August/early September at the very least." I'm cool with that. as long as its acknowledge and at some point being addressed.
Sloth9230 Deepspace Digital 2391	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:18:00 - [68] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Cosgar wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: You say he wasn't aiming, he most certainly was, he was also spamming the trigger, but he was aiming, since most of his shots were from a distance. And he was using trajectory prediction as well. I believe the forge-gunners call it "leading", but nah, clearly he was just shooting randomly How anyone can watch that video and think "man, that guy is skilled" while toasting every enemy in sight with his sidearm and just a couple clicks....just..... This community About as skilled as the average AR user, that is to say "not very". He over shoots a lot, it looks like he panics sometimes and just starts spamming the trigger. He does aim, just not very well, but that's what the splash is for no? But the flaylock, unlike a scrambler pistol, is not a weapon that requires skill to draw out it's full potential so it doesn't matter. The only real differnce between a flay in the hands a of a pro and noob is the ammo consumption. You're essentially complaining about it being a "nnob tube", not it being OP
Buster Friently Rosen Association 1151	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:19:00 - [69] - Quote I guess I should expect the AR to be the only viable weapon long term then, eh? Why bother making the rest of the game? The game, even with the current condition of the flaylock, is still all AR, all the time. Way to nerf diversity ccp.
Burntface man112 Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:19:00 - [70] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: We are taking this feedback very seriously and are looking into a solution that will bring balance to this weapon :) So, hopefully it's to your liking and in the future please don't hesitate with your concerns! AWESOME! i was so close to quiting this game because i ran into 3 matches of Core Flaylock spammers who just ran logi flaylock. Almost went back to BF3 hoping you guys bring in something special before BF4

ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 942	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:21:00 - [71] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: We are taking this feedback very seriously and are looking into a solution that will bring balance to this weapon :) So, hopefully it's to your liking and in the future please don't hesitate with your concerns! Any idea if we can see changes for the flaylock in 1.3 or will this remain imbalanced until late august for 1.4?
Sloth9230 Deepspace Digital 2391	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:21:00 - [72] - Quote Burntface man112 wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: We are taking this feedback very seriously and are looking into a solution that will bring balance to this weapon :) So, hopefully it's to your liking and in the future please don't hesitate with your concerns! AWESOME! i was so close to quiting this game because i ran into 3 matches of Core Flaylock spammers who just ran logi flaylock. Almost went back to BF3 hoping you guys bring in something special before BF4 Flaylock killed Dust
Cy Clone1 Internal Error. League of Infamy 125	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:21:00 - [73] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: We are taking this feedback very seriously and are looking into a solution that will bring balance to this weapon :) So, hopefully it's to your liking and in the future please don't hesitate with your concerns! Can we get a reply on dropships? Even if you just tell us they are being looked at. Maybe shed some light on if they will seen changes in the near future? Thanks
Cosgar ParagonX 2708	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:22:00 - [74] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: How anyone can watch that video and think "man, that guy is skilled" while toasting every enemy in sight with his sidearm and just a couple clicks....just..... This community Same thing with the TAC AR before the ~~nerf~~ rebalance. Skilled users would line up their shots while scrubs would mash the trigger in your general direction. Only difference with the Flaylock is that you only have 3~4 shots in the clip. Before you say it's a sidearm, other sidearms can out DPS their light weapon counterparts.
Sloth9230 Deepspace Digital 2391	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:22:00 - [75] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: We are taking this feedback very seriously and are looking into a solution that will bring balance to this weapon :) So, hopefully it's to your liking and in the future please don't hesitate with your concerns! Any idea if we can see changes for the flaylock in 1.3 or will this remain imbalanced until late august for 1.4? 1.8 You better watch out You better not cry You better not pout I'm telling you why CCP nerfs are coming to town
Sloth9230 Deepspace Digital 2391	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:23:00 - [76] - Quote Cosgar wrote: other sidearms can out DPS their light weapon counterparts. Shut up before you get the SMG nerfed because it's better than the Ar in certain situations
Sloth9230 Deepspace Digital 2391	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:24:00 - [77] - Quote Cy Clone1 wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: We are taking this feedback very seriously and are looking into a solution that will bring balance to this weapon :) So, hopefully it's to your liking and in the future please don't hesitate with your concerns! Can we get a reply on dropships? Even if you just tell us they are being looked at. Maybe shed some light on if they will seen changes in the near future? Thanks No.
Aythadis Smith The Generals EoN. 72	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:27:00 - [78] - Quote Not all Flaylocks are bad. My feel is that the Core and tr proficiency is what really dragged this to OP. plus I beig efficient with shields. If more of a bust to shields, maybe reduce its effective to armor. ( aka reduce to shield and overal damage reduction) The lower tiers hardly cut it. I mainly use those well after shields are broke ad I'm already a foot in their armor. Mostly a deterrent if anything else. Core just wrecks. Personal opinion Also, I use it primarily on a scout to scare of prey
Cosgar ParagonX 2709	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:29:00 - [79] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Cosgar wrote: other sidearms can out DPS their light weapon counterparts. Shut up before you get the SMG nerfed because it's better than the Ar in certain situations If people are deeming sidearms useless enough to restrict to logis, I think the SMG will be safe.
WhiskeyJack Otako The Southern Legion rise of legion 94	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:34:00 - [80] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: I guess I should expect the AR to be the only viable weapon long term then, eh? Why bother making the rest of the game? The game, even with the current condition of the flaylock, is still all AR, all the time. Way to nerf diversity ccp. I don't really think its over powered. I think a lot of people are used to running up to opponents and shooting them. The flaylocks puts a stop to this. It does take some skill to use the flaylock for distance or bouncing splash off of walls etc. I've been using it for a while now and misses are commonplace, but in combination with the AR or another light weapon it's deadly. People seem to forget that flaylock users kill themselves a lot in cqc so it's not a weapon without penalty. All the comments about flaylocks being op I would say the same of the mass driver. I'd be ok with a range nerf or even a slight nerf in trigger speed. If the CPU/pg goes up I'll still use it as I've got the sp in the appropriate skills, but most won't so it'll be high sp users who benefit most from increasing the fitting requirements. If it were made similar to the smg I would still be able to fit proto, light weapon, proto grenade and the proto flaylock with fully tanked suit. As an accompaniment for AV fits I'm loving the flaylock. No other sidearm provides as much survivability when using swarms. Bring on the nerf tho. Kill another weapon to keep the masses happy. We'll just find something else to cry about, won't we?

10123Jman KILL-EM-QUICK rise of legion 1	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:36:00 - [81] - Quote Don't nerf the flaylock its not my fault you cant play the game, just because we know how to actually use the flaylock doesnt mean you should take away the "GOOD", just think about it, every weapon we use that we consider good, you will always say its OVERPOWERED cpp will nerf it and it suddenly wont be good anymore
xLTShinySidesx Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 530	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:39:00 - [82] - Quote I'm just gonna say **** everything and skill into the gayssault rifle... Since that's the only weapon allowed to be rediculous and nobody will say anything about.
Sloth9230 Deepspace Digital 2394	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:45:00 - [83] - Quote xLTShinySidesx wrote: I'm just gonna say **** everything and skill into the gayssault rifle... Since that's the only weapon allowed to be rediculous and nobody will say anything about. What, no? It's a jack of all trades weapon that beats every other weapon in their intended roles. Whoops, I mean, It gets out ranged by snipers... and it doesn't hurt tanks.
ECHO PACK GamersForChrist Orion Empire 69	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:46:00 - [84] - Quote xLTShinySidesx wrote: I'm just gonna say **** everything and skill into the gayssault rifle... Since that's the only weapon allowed to be rediculous and nobody will say anything about. The AR userd might want to nerf lasers again for being to shiny they'll be complaining it blinds them But seriously flaylocks aren't OP you just cant take them on like you take out other guns. use strategy and learn to jump if they aim at your feet instead of going to the forums complaining. to dumb it down im saying get some skill, learn to fight in different situations
Anuliadon Gortusk Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 66	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:47:00 - [85] - Quote CCP in the past you implemented things, they sucked so you removed them totally for re-balancing the flaylock should be the same.
WhiskeyJack Otako The Southern Legion rise of legion 94	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:53:00 - [86] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: xLTShinySidesx wrote: I'm just gonna say **** everything and skill into the gayssault rifle... Since that's the only weapon allowed to be rediculous and nobody will say anything about. What, no? It's a jack of all trades weapon that beats every other weapon in their intended roles. Whoops, I mean, It gets out ranged by snipers... and it doesn't hurt tanks. I've finished off a few tanks with the flaylock...
Sloth9230 Deepspace Digital 2394	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:55:00 - [87] - Quote WhiskeyJack Otako wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: xLTShinySidesx wrote: I'm just gonna say **** everything and skill into the gayssault rifle... Since that's the only weapon allowed to be rediculous and nobody will say anything about. What, no? It's a jack of all trades weapon that beats every other weapon in their intended roles. Whoops, I mean, It gets out ranged by snipers... and it doesn't hurt tanks. I've finished off a few tanks with the flaylock... Scrub, learn 2 1-shot derpships
XxWarlordxX97 Internal Error. League of Infamy 4163	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:55:00 - [88] - Quote Minor Treat wrote: That flaylock has got to get nerfed, its clearly over powering the other sidearms. Now don't nerf it till its useless but nerf it by either tighting the blast radius or you can do less damage with the blast radius. (one hit kills are fine if its a direct hit) but it should do like 4 hits by blast radius because reloading with that thing is crazy, its reloads so fast. its gotta get some kind of tone down. I've seen it a dozen times a whole team running flaylock and only swapping out the assault rifles after shooting that flaylock. Sidearms are suppose to be a last stand, its a primary is being pushed by a sidearm there is a problem. I agree nerf it
Seymor Krelborn DUST University Ivy League 212	Posted - 2013.07.16 19:59:00 - [89] - Quote xLTShinySidesx wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: We are taking this feedback very seriously and are looking into a solution that will bring balance to this weapon :) So, hopefully it's to your liking and in the future please don't hesitate with your concerns! Boooo OMG! someones gonna have to learn how to play this game
Sloth9230 Deepspace Digital 2394	Posted - 2013.07.16 20:01:00 - [90] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: xLTShinySidesx wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: We are taking this feedback very seriously and are looking into a solution that will bring balance to this weapon :) So, hopefully it's to your liking and in the future please don't hesitate with your concerns! Boooo OMG! someones gonna have to spec into ARs



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